Published May 25, 2014
9 members have participated
elpnla
47 Posts
Have you noticed that RN-BSN online programs are growing like mushrooms? Have you ever wondered why? I have talked with some AD nurses and they all said that working on the floor is hard work, like a slave. And they want to get off the floor and sit in a comfortable office. They fear that one day they cannot get up after they squat down to pick up a piece of dressing dropped on the floor.
Colleges and universities know very well about the fear of growing old that most nurses have. The fear that one day they no longer have the strength that they have when they are 25 years old to lift patients on their shoulders.
And so they offer these programs to AD nurses but with no guarantee that they can ever find a job after they graduate. The colleges and universities know that it is not easy to find a job.
There is a surplus of nurses, and no demand for them except in the jungles if they choose to work there.
But they continue to spend billions of dollars to trap AD nurses in their BSN, MSN, PhD programs as if there's plenty of jobs for everyone after he/she graduates. They won't tell students the truth! To them, the truth is money!
Beware of colleges and universities.
RunnerRN2015, ASN, RN
790 Posts
The hospital system I work in recently earned magnet status. With that comes the push for RNs to get their BSNs. The majority of the ADN RNs that I know who are getting/have recently gotten their BSN (some through traditional "in person" colleges, others through online colleges) have no intention of leaving their current positions. They don't want to "get off the floor and sit in a comfortable office".
chare
4,325 Posts
What are you saying here that you did not already address in your other thread (RN-BSN SCAM)?
ETA: Other than the poll, which was not available when I started my post.
They don't want to "get off the floor and sit in a comfortable office".
Give them 20 more years..
Rose_Queen, BSN, MSN, RN
6 Articles; 11,936 Posts
Yet another thread on RN-BSN programs?
Here's the thing about having a job after graduating from the program: Unless one quits the job they hold prior to/during school, they already have a nursing job!! No school guarantees a job following graduation, nor should they. Finding a job is only the responsibility of the person seeking a job. One would be quite jumping the gun if one quits a job already held before having another one lined up. Having a BSN will most likely offer more employment opportunities than not. Having a BSN with experience is even more of a step up. Still, nothing in life is guaranteed.
What are you saying here that you did not already address in your other thread (RN-BSN SCAM)?ETA: Other than the poll, which was not available when I started my post.
I think I have mentioned something new about the demand for BSN, MSN, PhD nurses who want to work in the jungles..
Many years ago when you enroll in a school it has an office to help graduates find a job. The person who works in that office is on the phone all day making calls everywhere. Where are these schools now? Out of sight, out of mind?
llg, PhD, RN
13,469 Posts
That was only common in vocational schools. That was never common at traditional colleges/universities, where the focus is on "comprehensive education" and not "job training."
If furthering your education is not something you are interested in, that's fine. It is your choice. But there are lots of people who want more education -- for lots of different reasons.
Really?
How is the above quote, from this thread, substantially different from the following quote in your other thread?
Spending money is NO guarantee that you will make money unless there is a big demand for your skills. Remember always the law of supply and demand. Colleges and universities want you to believe that if you have their BSN degree, their MSN degree, or their PhD degree your future income is guaranteed! They lied to you. They are only interested in their income, not in your income.
Swilson70
53 Posts
I had an ADN...but I wanted to pursue my MSN so I went back to bridge...I also wanted to be a good role model to my son, who attended my BSN commencement ceremony...and in my bridge program you had to be working as an RN at the time, so there was really no need for job placement assistance...everyone has different reasons for bridging, and I do not look back on the degree as being scammed, and would wholeheartedly encourage other ADN holders to never stop increasing their knowledge base...and yes, most jobs I've seen posted lately have a bsn as a min requirement because of either a current magnet status or a push to become magnet status..my hospital is not magnet, but a team has been in place for the last few years discussing avenues to get to magnet...
TiffyRN, BSN, PhD
2,315 Posts
elpnla,
Please add something new other than: "Beware colleges and universities" and how untrustworthy college advisers are.
For those who want to know everything this poster has to say, you have a variety of options (they say the same thing essentially in every thread they start):
https://allnurses.com/registered-nurses-diploma/rn-bsn-scam-926466.html
https://allnurses.com/registered-nurses-diploma/what-can-adn-926549.html
This one's good, they are duplicate threads:
https://allnurses.com/registered-nurses-diploma/academic-advisors-trustworthy-926775.html
https://allnurses.com/registered-nurses-diploma/rn-bsn-academic-926777.html
NotMyProblem MSN, ASN, BSN, MSN, LPN, RN
2,690 Posts
I, personally, have no intentions of sitting in an office 5 days a week when I'm done. But I do plan and hope to move off the floor and out of the hospital in hopes of trying something different like community nursing or case management from home. There's lots to explore...