RN-BSN SCAM

Nursing Students ADN/BSN

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  1. Do you agree that RN-BSN is a scam to deceive students?

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Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.

For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth

I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.

These RN-BSN schools are not stupid. They know of the fears that most AD nurses have, and that is that one day these nurses cannot get up after they squat down at work...;) And they, the schools, capitalize on the fears that nurses have by offering their RN-BSN programs. Just look for yourself, RN-BSN schools and programs are growing like mushrooms.

Beware of colleges and universities.

Do you think brick and mortar University Bsn degrees are taken more seriously than Bsn Degrees obtained online?

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It depends on the university. Honestly, it does. Ohio University was partnered with my school and so all of my credits transferred, even firefighting credits. I only had the nursing classes and English II to do so I should get my BSN within 9 months if everything goes well. When they messed up my nutrition credits, I emailed them and they fixed it.

I have heard other people say that OU is very liberal with transferring credits so it may not just be going to a partnered university.

I tell people to look at what universities the community colleges are partnered with. Not to be negative, but most of the differences between a BSN and an ADN now a days is just the fluff classes. The traditional BSNs had nothing different in terms of classes except for the GECs in my area. However, I will be taking more nursing classes now than a traditional BSN because I am going the RN to BSN route. Still costs about 1/2 of what a usual BSN costs.

UTA didn't impress me. I waited and waited for them to accept me. Then I was accepted conditionally. Didn't stop them from calling me constantly. Ohio University accepted me within a month of applying. Once again though, OU is a partner school from where I graduated from.

UTA is a nationally ranked BSN program, they don't accept anyone within a month of applying. I would be weary of a BSN program that did accept anyone that quickly.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.

Keep in mind that for 44 credits, plus 3 in statics if you don't already have that, and RN with an ADN can get a masters degree in nursing and skip the BSN altogether. There is nothing a BSN will do for your career that an MSN won't do. If you hold an associates degree from and accredited college, and had at least a 3.0 you can earn an MSN in 44 credits through the University of Arizona. I know several nurses in the program now. They won't make you take any classes before you can start the program.

Very expensive though. The people I know doing the RN to MSN are getting it paid for by either the military, or their employer.

Just keep that in mind when your BSN program starts racking up credits for you to take after reviewing your transcripts.

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Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Do you think brick and mortar University Bsn degrees are taken more seriously than Bsn Degrees obtained online?

No they are not. Besides there is no way to know if you got your degree online, unless you went to a program that is only online.

The degree earned online doesn't look different than the degree earned in the same school's brick and mortar classes.

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Do you think brick and mortar University Bsn degrees are taken more seriously than Bsn Degrees obtained online?

They are all the same, to get your money, period. Colleges and universities are spending billions of dollars in advertisement to persuade students

to enroll in their schools, and get their money, but they do not spend a dime to help you find a job after you graduate. Out of sight, out of mind!

Again, beware of colleges and universities.

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Specializes in LTC, Agency, HHC.
They are all the same, to get your money, period. Colleges and universities are spending billions of dollars in advertisement to persuade students

to enroll in their schools, and get their money, but they do not spend a dime to help you find a job after you graduate. Out of sight, out of mind!

Again, beware of colleges and universities.

Should they give you a degree for free? I went to UoP and did their LPN-BSN program, and I have a counselor helping me find jobs before I landed this one I am starting.

Of COURSE they want your money. Money makes the world go round. So, the question really is what can you do about getting a low cost education?

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UTA is a nationally ranked BSN program, they don't accept anyone within a month of applying. I would be weary of a BSN program that did accept anyone that quickly.

I know has rolling admissions and you can start almost immediately after submitting the required paperwork.

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One in my area advertises 12 months completion, and requires all university courses to be taken prior to applying, which can be taken at any accredited institution. They only have the RN to MSN option.

Another one does not require university courses to be taken first, it advertises 12 months also, while noting that it may take considerably longer if university classes are not completed. It will accept credit from any accredited institution for the RN to BSN degree.

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Should they give you a degree for free?

No, I have never said that, although there are colleges that give college level education for free. See coursera.org for example.What i am saying is that they must be honest and ethical. They must not promise something that they have no intention of delivering. They must not promise something one minute, and and say something else the next minute to their students. This is called lying to students, and very unethical! Many Academic Advisors lied to their students.

Beware of colleges and universities.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
I know WGU has rolling admissions and you can start almost immediately after submitting the required paperwork.
Not exactly. . .you can start within two months after submitting the required paperwork. I applied at the beginning of March and, according to my admissions counselor, the earliest I could start would be May 1st.

I had to take and pass a readiness assessment to test for college preparedness skills in reading comprehension, math, writing, and suitability for online learning. I had to submit an essay, current resume, proof of RN licensure, transcripts from all previously attended schools, completed background check, and other items prior to being granted full admission, so it is a myth that one can start "almost immediately."

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Specializes in Outpatient/Clinic, ClinDoc.

To add to commuter's post, also gives you a transcript breakdown before you start and the full breakdown of classes required is on the website. So there's no 'bait and switch'. Matter of fact, WGU almost always OVERESTIMATES how long a student will take to finish. :p

There are a few RN to BSN programs that will accept an AA 'whole cloth' and not require any pre-reqs. Aspen is one - however these schools are not regionally accredited since they will not meet B&M/RA standards for the BS degree.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
They are all the same, to get your money, period.
Most of us have got to spend money to make money...

Look at all the people who dropped out of high school instead of furthering their educational pursuits. They didn't spend the money on their schooling, and now they must contend with the highest unemployment rates, the lowest wages, and the most uninteresting types of jobs (if they can get hired).

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