Quote from Tommy5677
My disdain isn't for BSN nurses. It's for nursing leadership. If we want BSN as the only entry level into practice, why not eliminate the ASN programs altogether, just like they did with the diploma programs, who in my opinion turned out the best clinical nurses ever? I became a nurse right around the time of the push to get rid of them and they could run circles around most of us, including the BSN's. I believe it was a huge mistake. I guess my bitterness stems around the way it's being done. As I said, I would rather retire and work retail than return to the bedside and at 60, I'm not getting a BSN. According to you my 35 years of experience means nothing just because I don't have the BSN. It's a ridiculous assertion. So in reality, the nursing profession is losing a good one. As a disease manager working a 6 hour day, I was doing full time work just like the other nurses and I was getting frequent kudos from upper management because my "patients" would call or write to them to tell them how I was changing their lives (without any prompting from me). I personally and singlehandedly developed the Asthma and COPD programs, something normally left to a BSN prepared nurse, so it isn't like we're not capable. As for question the teaching of fundamentals, I was being sarcastic. Soon, I'll get over the fact that I'm just done with it all. Amazing how we cling to such things, isn't it?
Diploma programs have not been "eliminated." There are many states that no longer have a single diploma program, but there are other states that have plenty. There are four just in my city, that are graduating people every year that get licensed and get jobs.
Associate's degree nursing programs will never be eliminated because that decision is not up to TPTB in nursing; the state legislatures ultimately control the BONs and the rules and regs of nursing practice, inc. entry to practice, and the community colleges are extremely popular with the state legislatures and have a lot of support. Also, TPTB in nursing have been unsuccessful so far in convincing the state leges (or the majority of the US public) that a baccalaureate degree in nursing is really necessary.
Having said that, I am an old diploma grad -- but we were told repeatedly in my diploma program in the early 1980s
that we should plan on returning to school to complete a BSN, because the BSN was the future of nursing and the day was going to come, sooner rather than later, when having "only" a diploma would hamper our careers. Are you really saying that you just "recently" became aware of all of this? This has been discussed, and argued, and written about in nursing for decades
now. It may not be fair, it may not be right, but it is what it is. Your choice (the choice of all of us "oldtimers") is to "adapt or die," as the saying goes (or, in the case of nursing, get out of nursing; fortunately, we don't have to literally die
). Plenty of us went back to school years ago and didn't wait to hit a professional dead end.
Your posts remind me somewhat of the potential nursing students who post here, saying that their great-aunt told them not to bother with a BSN, an ADN is plenty, because she
had only an ADN and worked her way up to DON at her local hospital. Well, yeah, 30 years ago, you used to be able to do that. But times have changed. We either change with them, or we get left behind.
I'm about your age, and I'm certainly sympathetic to your situation. But that doesn't change anything. There are plenty of BSN completion programs, online and/or reasonably priced, that are designed for working RNs and make it as easy and painless as possible to get the degree. I did one years ago. Many other nurses I've known have done them. You could do one, or you can be unhappy about having v. limited professional opportunities going forward. But, if it were me, I would not want to end a long, successful career in nursing on that note.
Best wishes for your journey!