Jump to content

"Nurses Who Harm Patients Must Be Caught Early"

News   (4,880 Views 12 Comments)
by anonymurse anonymurse (Member)

8,155 Profile Views; 979 Posts

AmandaBrittainy specializes in ER.

60 Posts; 1,712 Profile Views

Gee, it must have took a genius to figure this out. How about a nurse that I work with who turned off the patients vent alarm, well it alarmed and alarmed and his monitor alarmed when he de satted and his HR was 28 - yeah he died because he had became disconnected from the vent for who knows how long and no one noticed. This nurse remains employed and in good standing. Or another nurse I work with who triaged a 30 year female confused/combative/tachycardic/hypotensive. He restrained her in her room and never bothered to alert the ED physician who finally saw her when our unit clerk noted asystole on the moniter 2 hours later, she died as well. Guess what - that nurse was just promoted to charge in our unit and that is not his only fatal error. Does anybody think that these people exist because they dont cause trouble for administration by complaining about the unsafe working environments we are in - they just create them - it is much easier to gain forgiveness than be granted permission. The hospital for which I am employed promotes these people - however people like me who point out unsafe nurses are just burned at the stake because they get tired of having to open thier eyes - too much work when you need to worry about a shareholder and your hospitals next profit margin.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

303 Posts; 4,414 Profile Views

Gee, it must have took a genius to figure this out. How about a nurse that I work with who turned off the patients vent alarm, well it alarmed and alarmed and his monitor alarmed when he de satted and his HR was 28 - yeah he died because he had became disconnected from the vent for who knows how long and no one noticed. This nurse remains employed and in good standing. Or another nurse I work with who triaged a 30 year female confused/combative/tachycardic/hypotensive. He restrained her in her room and never bothered to alert the ED physician who finally saw her when our unit clerk noted asystole on the moniter 2 hours later, she died as well. Guess what - that nurse was just promoted to charge in our unit and that is not his only fatal error. Does anybody think that these people exist because they dont cause trouble for administration by complaining about the unsafe working environments we are in - they just create them - it is much easier to gain forgiveness than be granted permission. The hospital for which I am employed promotes these people - however people like me who point out unsafe nurses are just burned at the stake because they get tired of having to open thier eyes - too much work when you need to worry about a shareholder and your hospitals next profit margin.

OMG :uhoh21:

this is crazy. Why do these people risk their licenses. If nothing else they could worry about their licenses and livelihoods.

Very scary indeed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

AmandaBrittainy specializes in ER.

60 Posts; 1,712 Profile Views

OMG :uhoh21:

this is crazy. Why do these people risk their licenses. If nothing else they could worry about their licenses and livelihoods.

Very scary indeed.

I dont know - for the most part they all seem like good people too - I just dont understand.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yeSICU specializes in SICU.

117 Posts; 3,718 Profile Views

Gee, it must have took a genius to figure this out. How about a nurse that I work with who turned off the patients vent alarm, well it alarmed and alarmed and his monitor alarmed when he de satted and his HR was 28 - yeah he died because he had became disconnected from the vent for who knows how long and no one noticed. This nurse remains employed and in good standing. Or another nurse I work with who triaged a 30 year female confused/combative/tachycardic/hypotensive. He restrained her in her room and never bothered to alert the ED physician who finally saw her when our unit clerk noted asystole on the moniter 2 hours later, she died as well. Guess what - that nurse was just promoted to charge in our unit and that is not his only fatal error. Does anybody think that these people exist because they dont cause trouble for administration by complaining about the unsafe working environments we are in - they just create them - it is much easier to gain forgiveness than be granted permission. The hospital for which I am employed promotes these people - however people like me who point out unsafe nurses are just burned at the stake because they get tired of having to open thier eyes - too much work when you need to worry about a shareholder and your hospitals next profit margin.

No nurse is perfect. Some of us are lucky enough to not make fatal mistakes, but you can't necessarily place sole blame on the RN. There are process errors that are usually a big part of it. I think it is so important for nurses to admit their mistakes so that measures can be taken so that they don't happen again/as frequently. I can give you and example... We use Nexstage CRRT in our ICU. You have to hang a number of gallon size bags of solution for the machine. On more than one occasion there were incorrect solutions being hung. Most of the bags would be right but there would be one rogue one that was not the proper formulation. It was narrowed down to; 1. the way the solutions were organized on the shelf and 2. The font was very small on the bags. Yes you can definitely say... Well the nurse should have double checked them, and you would be right... but simply organizing the bags differently and making the writing big enough to jump out at you can help to minimize the risk to patients.

Just a scenario and food for thought...

Did I mention that killing patients is bad?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

traumaRUs is a MSN, APRN and specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

15 Followers; 152 Articles; 20,866 Posts; 188,325 Profile Views

Nurses that INTENTIONALLY cause death or injury are one thing. However, there are few nurses that can state they've NEVER made an error. If they do, its probably because they didn't recognize it as such.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

DutchgirlRN is a ASN, RN and specializes in OB, M/S, HH, Medical Imaging RN.

1 Article; 3,932 Posts; 21,635 Profile Views

:yeahthat:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 Article; 5,758 Posts; 32,496 Profile Views

Important to remember is that this is a rare thing. I know that some over zealous person in supervision is going to end up making false accusations. Just as we now have nurses accused of diverting drugs because they have been very conscientous about medicating for pain, soon we will have nurses falling under suspicion because they care for the sickest patients who are more likely to die. Mark my words, these formulas they come up with for tracking this sort of thing tend to have flaws built into them. It is very devastating to be falsely accused.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

AmandaBrittainy specializes in ER.

60 Posts; 1,712 Profile Views

Important to remember is that this is a rare thing. I know that some over zealous person in supervision is going to end up making false accusations. Just as we now have nurses accused of diverting drugs because they have been very conscientous about medicating for pain, soon we will have nurses falling under suspicion because they care for the sickest patients who are more likely to die. Mark my words, these formulas they come up with for tracking this sort of thing tend to have flaws built into them. It is very devastating to be falsely accused.

I agree with all of the input - no nurse is perfect and I thank god every day I dont make mistakes because it could very easily be done but I do not excuse the actions of the nurses spoken of in my earlier statement - I continue to work with them - they are careless and have no regard for the patients' best interests in my opinion - they do what is convenient for them at all times and dont seem to think twice about it. I could never consciously behave that way - and I think these people recognize that they are substandardly practicing nursing but if no one calls them on it - who cares? Yes I have made mistakes, some were avoidable, some werent - I continue to learn, but I do not make mistakes because I am being lazy or have internal motivaters when I come to work to care for my patients - that plays a big part in some ways.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

4 Posts; 711 Profile Views

OMG I cant imagine that this people are still working and even promoted for the fatal mistakes made. Mistakes do happen be it preventable or not, but causing a life due to personal attitude is totally unacceptable.. Some times I ask myself y are these people with no passion in this line??? Nursing, nurses are supposed to heal not kill!! A lot of time, these people are just task orientated in my opinion, they care less about the patient's best interest.. Those who made mistakes are not reported & promoted. Y are these people not reported?? YYY?? I guess it all because, when u report a person, u r perceived as "back-stabber" and alot of times even if u are reporting it for the best interest of the patients' safety, and managment knows it, so wat?? the more u report, the more work tehy have to do so they just deen u as being troublemaker.. arguementative.... These people who made mistakes always have a way to escape cos these are the people who work smart & nt work hard.. high EQ at work is very important.... haha.. BUT as a nurse with a conscious, I will report such incidents all the way to the top if no action is taken if it was really pure negligence & not some process/system issues..

I hope these nurses learn from their mistakes & stop screwing up patients' & health care professionals life!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

nerdtonurse? is a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU, Telemetry.

3 Articles; 2,043 Posts; 31,827 Profile Views

At moments, nursing in my hospital is like the Bill Cosby routine, "They don't want justice, they just want quiet."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
×