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jnemartin BSN, RN

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  1. Hi All!

    I just accepted my first school nurse position and I couldn't be more excited. After working bedside in critical care and skilled/LTC, I have a chance to develop and implement health promotion campaigns and classes/training for students and faculty, in addition to the day-to-day of school nursing. I'm so excited!

    So I'm asking all the school nurses out there - what are you favorite places to go for up-to-date information, best practices, evidence-based health promotion programs, etc... I even found some podcasts I've been listening to, so I am open to anything you all find helpful!

    I have already looked into the NASN, and will probably join, so if there are particular toolkits or info from NASN that you love, please let me know!

    LINKS appreciated :)

  2. I'm going through the same thing - and also looking at schools in southern california. it looks like programs span the price range of 30k-80k, so 45ish is not bad. You also have to consider the length of the program because a more expensive progam (including cost of living) could turn you out faster and you'll be making money more quickly. You can do the math on that and see for yourself which program length works better for the price... long term, that is.

    also, consider that where ever you go to school is where you will be living for at least a year - so make sure you will be happy and comfortable there! And also it is probably where you will get your first RN job, or at least it will be easier to get a job in the city you go to school because you will complete your clinicals there and have a professional network.

    Just some food for thought.

    For me, I was choosing between schools in chicago, where I can live for free with my mom (stressful), but the program is 2.5 years. My other options are 12-15 month programs living in southern california, paying my own living expenses.... and actually the math worked out in favor of the CA programs (even with the expensive cost of living!), so that made it an easy choice for me. The chicago school is now my back up.

    BEST OF LUCK! It is a hard decision, for sure.

  3. Okay, I'll add another theory (though it is not mine originally by any means)


    There never was a shortage, not in the last couple of decades anyway. There was at one time a shortage of nurses willing to work in the conditions that were available. Many of them changed their minds quickly when their spouses suddenly didn't have good jobs. "Heck, I can always go full-time at my hospital!"


    What changed a few years ago was that we stopped the natural out-flow of nurses from the job market, the disillusioned, the now well-married, the new moms. All these nurses didn't leave like the usually do. Also the previously mentioned ready-to-retire nurses that are putting it off due to the financial situation.


    I'm pretty sure that in 2020 we will be in a world of hurt for nurses. We will continue to have these crazy fluctuations as long as nursing has this huge population of nurses that sit on the sidelines. In 2020, when the shortage hits, (I'm pretty sure it will) the powers that be will have to find ways to coax the nurses that are choosing not to work back into the work force.


    But the real problem is that we never did have a real nursing shortage.

    Tiffany, you make a really good and interesting point. Different way of looking at the issue and - for my sake (nursing student) - I HOPE you're right!!

  4. Grn Tea,

    I really don't have an informed opinion. I am new to the field, finishing up my BSN, and mainly wondering how this will affect the job market and nature of my job as a nurse.

    I have only found information online from telemedicine companies, so of course it is all positive - boasting many new job opportunities, etc. I am not sure that's how it will pan out. It seems to me, that telemedicine would eliminate some jobs.

    Maybe someone else has personal experience with it in the workplace?

  5. I'm a black female who lives in a region where racial refusals are common.

    Anyhow, these requests are usually accomodated at my place of employment because management wishes to keep the facility's Press Gainey patient satisfaction scores above a certain threshold.

    However, the facility where I work cannot always accomodate the request, especially on night shift, due to the fact that all of the night shift nurses might be 'people of color' on certain evenings.

    One more thought. . .I would prefer that these patients have their requests accomodated, as weird as this may seem. A patient who does not want me to provide any care for him/her can conjure up lies and false accusations that could make my life absolutely miserable. I'd much rather live and let live.

    You have such a good attitude. While on a personal level I find these racist comments/requests offensive and innappropriate, while at work there is a responsibility on us to remain professional and cater to the pt as much as possible.

    Trying to "accommodate the request," I believe, is the right thing to do, in the interest of patient care and comfort of the staff as well. However, the pt will probably need to be told that at some times the request cannot be accommodated and that any innappropriate comments toward staff will not be tolerated (if it comes up).

    PS - has anyone seen Marigold Hotel? There is a geriatric pt like this in that movie who eventually has a turn of character and it's a beautiful story :) (maybe not very realistic, but touching none-the-less).

  6. I am in a very similar situation (BA in Journalism, making a career change to nursing). The accelerated BSN programs are designed for people that already have a BA/BS in another field, or for very serious undergrads, and having a work history in any field will give you an advantage and maturity. For 9 out of 10 programs, you will need to take several pre-req's that you did not take in undergrad (chem and organic chem, anatomy and physiology, pharmacology, developmental psych, and some other very nursing-specific classes). The exception to this rule (the 1 in 10 school!) is that there are some schools (for example Chamberlain college of nursing), usually for-profit schools, that do not require any course work to be completed prior to acceptance into the RN program- they give you everything. The downside is that these programs are cost prohibitive (think 80K).

    While you are taking pre-reqs, work away! And save as much money as possible! The accelerated BSN programs are, as someone already mentioned, more than a FT job and you will be attending classes during the AM and clinicals in the afternoon/PM/overnight. You will really not have time to work. The accelerated BSN programs are only a 12-15 months, so you are compressing a 2-3 year education into that short amount of time... leaving very little time for a job.

    That being said, you may be able to work a job with flexible hours (like serving or tutoring), but a regular 9-5 is almost out of the question. I hope this doesn't discourage you! I am going through the same thing right now - completing my pre-reqs and starting to choose an accelerated program on the west coast.

    Best of luck!

  7. You did the right thing in following up with the hospital. You may want to send a thank you note for the inteview, but unfortunately it looks like they may have moved forward with another candidate.

    If I were you, I would chalk the interview up to great practice, and feel glad that you were not hired by a company that is so untimely and unprofessional, not to mention disrespectful of your time and emotions that go into the hiring process.

    However, two weeks without a reply is not always a bad thing. In my current position, the hiring process took about 2 months - including three in-person interviews, a panel interview and a day of shadowing - all before an offer was extended. Between each step was more than a week (because they continued to interview people) and I was biting my nails the whole time... and keeping my options open.

    Good luck - if you don't get this gig, then it was truly not meant to be. If they do reach out to you, move forward with caution and grace - ask questions and feel secure before diving in to a place that may continue to treat you in an unprofessional way.

  8. As an aside, I'd like to just mention that my aunt, who is a nurse, is so supportive about me going into nursing... but not in an overexcited, celebratory type of way.

    She treats it as a totally natural, normal and competant next step and when we discuss anything nursing-related she just brushes off all my concerns with "oh, don't worry... you're smart, you'll do fine!"

    Thanks to her support I rarely worry about any of my nursing school concerns and am just plowing ahead!

  9. My mom was at first totally unsupportive of my decision to enter nursing. Being supportive is not her strong suit, but I was still shocked that she didn't think it was a good idea and would go silent when I talked about it.

    But I continued on my plan, making specific goals, taking classes, touring colleges, and getting support from other family members including my aunt who is also a nurse (and my mom's best friend). Within months my mom was on board.

    Just keep moving forward with your plans and prove her wrong... that is, if she doesn't jump on board before you have the chance!!!

  10. Hello!

    I am preparing to apply to accelerated BSN programs.

    My question is this: Chicago (living with family and a 2 year program) or California (living on my own, 12-15 month program).

    I have family in Chicago, and could attend a 2 year accelerated program there while living with my parents and saving on rent (and of course Chicago's cost of living is high, and I'd be expected to take care of my own expenses.) The pro of Chicago is that I'd have free housing. The con is that I don't really get along with my family and don't have any friends there, so my support network would be thin. Plus, living with my parents will probably affect my loan eligibility. Also, I do not intend on staying in Chicago after graduation.

    I am also considering attending school in California, which would be my dream situation and where I plan to settle down after school. The major drawback here is cost of living. However, the program is shorter and I will be happier being around my friends and a consistent support network.

    I know that ultimately I am the only one that can make this decision... but for those of you that have struggled with a similar choice - between living with parents (as an adult) during schooling, and living on your own - I'd like to hear how it turned out for you.

    Will the loans be worth it? Is it better to just put my nose to the gridstone for 2 years and plant to move after that?

    Thank you for your thoughts and opinions.

  11. though not a nursing student yet (currently applying to schools), I currently hold a BA in Journalism. I kept most of my books from my first go-around at University, but did sell or leave some behind due to lots of moving around... and the feeling that the author mentioned of: "is this really useful anymore?"

    I sooooo wish I had kept my old, outdated Journalism books. Yes, they are a pain to move around every time a lease is up, but the nostalgia of flipping through my old notes and taking a a peek into history (I graduated in 2006, when Internet was just surpassing print as a viable media source) is priceless and I do long for my old text books.

    However, I am really a book lover, so my opinion is biased!

  12. Thank you for this article!

    I am currently preparing to apply to accelerated BSN programs (already have a BA), and currently work as a social worker. My job is to assist unemployed or underemployed people find work...

    and this article basically sums up all the suggestions I give my job-seeking clients.

    Finding work is a full time job and there are some age-old tips that truly never fail, all of which you have mentioned here:

    1. Network - talk to your professors, mentors, classmates, clinical coworkers and insructors

    2. Volunteer - for many nurses or son-to-be nurses this "volunteer" experience may come in the form of clinicals, but if you have time, try to branc out into another area that offers volunteering. Currently I volunteer for Hospice, which is a great opportunity to hone bedside manner

    3. Follow Up - As the author mentioned, you absolutely CANNOT just send your resume out into the ether and cross your fingers. Make contact with the specific person in charge of hiring, or have someone put a word in for you. Once you do make contact, continue to follow up with your new contact, as the author spectacularly described (thank you notes, little emails here and there and drop ins to say hello!)

    4. Finally, STAY FOCUSED. The author did a phenomenal job of setting specific goals. Check out the "SMART" goals method, if you need help organizing your employment plan.

    Again, thanks for the article from a nurse's perspective. Being a prospective nurse and a current "Job Developer/Employment Specialist," i wholeheartedly agree 🙂