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Code55 has 10 years experience and specializes in Mental Health, Short Stay.

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  1. Code55

    another clueless employer

    Hey get this, I interviewed at inpatient chemical dependency treatment facility within a major hospital and was declined the position. My background is mental health and now with over 3 years in recovery. I asked the interviewing panel if they had any issues with my monitoring and one of them stated, "now if I did, I would be a hypocrite wouldn't I?" One would think, working in Chemical Dependency with a mental health background would be a perfect fit, but apparently they didn't think so. I felt and they appeared to be very comfortable with me and thought for sure they were going to offer me the job. Not the case. I bet it was some "suit" that made the decision and not nursing management. It frustrating and discouraging at times. The search goes on...
  2. Code55

    Any point in fighting NA requirement?

    12-Step programs are not religion based. It is simply a program based upon spiritually and any higher power greater than yourself. Religion is something very specific to a culture or people and has a belief system very specific to them. A 12-Step program does not and that is why it is so successful and attracts millions of people around the world.
  3. Wow, acceptance into a nursing school has change a bit since I went to nursing school more than 10 years ago. I think with the volumes of folks applying, somehow they have to trim the field, even though sometimes it may seen not fair. Figure out what they want and perform the preparation well as you can. Make it a full time job! I had zero medical experience prior to nursing school but had a previous associates degree and over 10 years of life experiences. GPA was probably 3.5 or so at that time. Prereques were 3.8 including 4.0 in A&P. A&P separates the men from the boys or you know...for the ladies. Of course at that time the popularity of nursing schools wasn't like it is now. We started out with 38 students or so in our nursing class and graduated about 20. Go figure... Nursing school was probably one of the toughest challenges I've ever experienced. Today, after working as an RN for over 10 years, I still have not found anything more difficult as nursing school. Its like boot camp, how bad do you really want something? Nursing is academic, physical and very mental. I think sometimes today, getting into nursing school is probably compared to getting into medical school. It doesn't get much easier once you are accepted to successfully graduate from nursing school. It only gets easier once you have a license. Bottom line, apply to as many schools as possible and study your asssssss off! Eat, breath, and sleep nursing. Learn to take tests and don't give up! I hope that helps and good luck!:redbeathe
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    I am going to self-report to Georgia BON

    I can understand both Debnky and Peace8 disappointment and frustration about your Boards of Nursings'. It interesting and frustrating how each state writes policy and procedures for monitoring. There should be some constancy with how health care professionals to both protect the public and treat our disease. I self reported to my BON and it has been different for me. I'm fortunate that Oregon both helps protect the public and helps the addicted nurse. I feel they are supporting me and helping me get back to practice. I was encouraged to report myself by nurses already in the monitoring program so had some understanding how I might be met. If I had know that the board would have treated me like your boards, it would have been much more difficult. Oregon did not restrict or place discipline against my license. Once a month urines and monthly check-ins, that it! I feel very fortunate. Now after about a year in recovery and having a unencumbered Oregon license , I made application to Washington State for a license. It took them about a year to grant me a license and the license they granted me was a restricted one. They also reported me to a national data base for health care providers. Go figure! Looking in hind sight, I would have never applied for a Washington license. The bottom line: For nurses like us that want to do the right thing by wanting help, including notifying the BON, will not do so if the policies are overly punitive and met with harshness, with not only place the public at risk but are denying that nursing has a health risk disability. They are also denying it is a disease. People like us will not self report and that places everyone at risk. This can also be said for the folks that are reported to the board. I believe that every case manager and one or some members of the board need to be in recovery their selves. No one that does not have our disease really understands what it is like to have our disease. They don't have to! I'm sorry that your boards are not recovery friendly. It only hurts the profession and it should not be that way. Having said all that, you guys have a little more up hill climb to make but it has been done before. They are others that have come through just fine. In fact much better off. Do not place your recovery at risk. Plug in even more to recovery by meetings, sponsors, and getting to know other health care professionals in recovery. Your recovery is above being a nurse. Let us know how things are progressing. Glenn 🙂
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    returning to nursing

    It might be a hill to climb but It can be done. You will need to find out everything that you need to do with your BON. Perhaps monitoring from square one, become active in recovery programs (12-step group), get involved in any health care professionals recovery groups in your area, and possible a RN reentry program since you've been out of nursing for a while. It will take work on your part but if this is something you really want, it can be done. Bottom line is you will need support and attending various meetings and getting to know other nurses in recovery with be your vital link of encouragement, strength and hope. Good luck and let us know how your doing.
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    Here's to you! Jack has some great suggestion about work. Some might not where you want to be but its a start. I need to take that same advise. After 2.5 years of recovery, I am still not working as a nurse either. Boy do I miss it! I am new to this site but have read some great suggestions on how to inform, when to inform and what to inform. You need to be very careful not to indicate your license issue or anything to do with the BON unless it specifically indicates so. Get to the interview first, then sell yourself and your career, then ease the person who has the power to hire into your licensing issue. The key is disclosure only at the right time, prefer the later the better. This is the way I see it: they give me an interview, make a job offer, and "oh by the way, are you comfortable with working with me on the monitoring program?" Its also important that they are comfortable working with you and the monitoring program. My last interview everything was going well until on of those questions about my license came up, "so you have a license in Oregon and Washington?" Yes, "unrestricted?" Me: "Oregon-yes", Washington-no." Interviewer: "can you explain that?" You can see where that went....no job offer. In my case, what am I going to say on an app, "reason for leaving?" "I got fired?" No. Some suggested, "Prefer to discuss in person." Sure, it might be a negative, but its better than being "terminated from chemical dependency." You might want to do some searches for employment issues on this board because they have some great suggestions on how to handle this issue. Glenn
  7. Hi Goinnuts, That pretty much describes me in the first year of sobriety. I think all the pain I experienced in the first year was enough to keep me clean. I think the hardest thing I've ever did was self refer myself to the BON! Wow, that was hard. From time-to-time, I still regret it because all the aftermath probably would not have happened. My addiction was in total silence. Nobody knew including my wife! I just wanted out off this crazy roller coaster of drug addiction! Once I made the decision to report myself to the BON, then I needed to tell my employer, then get fired, then start the monitoring process, then ba, ba, ba...My wife reminds me occationally that if I wasn't fired from my job, she doesn't believe I would become the person I am today. Yes, it was a real humbling process! Like some of you have indicated, it was the "shame and guild" of my actions! That still haunts me today, to a lessor degree, after 2.5 years. One thing I've learned in recover is that if I don't have recovery, then I can't have anything. My nursing license does not define who I am. I saturated myself in recovery the 1st year to achieve a solid program, then I could peruse other things. Today, I'm still not working as a nurse because it has been difficult finding work with the record I have. It gets real disappointing at times. You have tried to do all the right things or doing the next right step and still no job as a nurse. It sucks, but it will happens as long as I keep doing the right things. I don't fight the nursing board, prospective employers, previous employer (that fired me), or anybody that crosses my path. I go and work with other addicts, especially other health care workers, attend meetings, work the steps, and try to trust God. They keep me on the right path. I feel for you Goinnuts, I read these post because they help me feel like I am not the only one. These nurses feel the way I do and are or have experienced the same things I have. Its one drug addict and nurse talking to another. What better therapy! You one of us! You guys keep me out of self-pity! Keep talking to us because you will get some understanding, compassion and perhaps some great suggestions. Also you will be helping us, even though we may have walked in your shoes before. Glenn
  8. Code55

    I need feedback plz

    I'm new to this online support group and really like it in addressing recovery in nursing. This is a great post. You guys have some really good suggestions about this scary job hunting thing. After 2 years of being out of nursing and on a monitoring program, it past time to look for work in nursing. I've got a solid foot in recovery now so I will really see how strong of a program I've got. I need to get back into nursing because 1. I love it and 2. I need to come full circle. Like most of you, I've never had to face an issue like this. I've been in leadership positions and have really good annual evals before I got fired as a result of my addiction. (Mind you, I self reported and subsequently informed my employer.) The red carpet was always thrown down for me to come to work for them. It seems its just the opposite these days. I've applied for about 10-15 jobs and 1 interview, and I got to say its starting to get depressing. Sounds like I'm going to have to kick it up a notch or two and start hitting the pavement and becoming more aggressive. I like the suggestion about "reason for leave" a job: "would like to discuss in person." This a real tricky because this response has negative connotation to it but perhaps better than "terminated." I've read a couple of suggestions regarding handling these tough questions. I'd love to hear some more about what to say and not to say about pre-recovery and how much to say and what not to say and when to say it. You guys have given me encouragement and hope. Keep it coming. Thanks guys!
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    I am going to self-report to Georgia BON

    Good stuff in this post. I was one who self-reported after 2-year drug addiction to opioid prescriptions. I was in denial after about the 3rd prescription and illegally. I got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I could longer help myself. I never got caught but need help. My wife is a nurse also and never know, in fact nobody knew. That's the way us drug addicts like to keep it! When I reached my bottom of wanting to be done, I informed my wife about it and she initially supported me. I went to a healthcare professional treatment facility, never knowing it was in my back yard, Hazelden, Springbrook. This is where it got a little dicey for me at that time. I left treatment after 30 days even though they wanted me to stay at least 60 days and up to 90 days. Yes, I left AMA. 2-weeks out of treatment, after much heavy suggestions from other nurses in recovery, they highly recommended I report myself to the Oregon State Board Nursing (That was part of the reason Hazelden wanted me to stay.) It was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do but I did. The board was compassionate and receptive to me. At that time, I really didn't get it but they asked me if I wanted to be on the monitoring program? Yes, it was a question or offer. I figured I had no choice because I told them what I had done and who I was. I was so sick at the time and said well....Yes. No, no, I do not regret it know. I still believe it is the right thing to do because I will never know what would have happened if I had not reported myself. Say, I might be dead? Or, hurt someone else in my practice. Remember, I had not informed my employer or given them any indication what was going on with me at this time. I knew that once I self-reported to BON I would have to inform my employer. It was time and that's what I did. The hospital administration, suits I like to call them, fired me even though I self-referred to treatment and the BON. The department Head wanted willing to work with me but Admin had something else to say about it. Apparently they have a zero tolerance policy. I say now, they do have to right, but a that time, I was angry with their decision. I was angry, irritable and discontented for about 6-8 months into recovery and finally surrendered then started to accept everything that had happened to me (I am a slow learner). I can't blame anyone for what has happened. In fact, I'm thankful because I needed this humbling process to happen to me. Hind sight can be mostly 20-20, but I don't think I would have changed a thing other than my addiction. I believe it was just the way it was support to be. I have not worked in nursing for 2 years and with over 2.5 years of sobriety. I have a solid foot in recovery and my life is much different today. I am very grateful for everything I have especially for my wife. Yes, getting a job in nursing today can be a challenge but God will make the way. It is hard being turned down for work but perseverance with win out. Today, I work with others new in recovery, attend regular AA meetings, have a sponsor and work the steps. We have a really good caduceus meeting here (mostly docs). I look at most everything through the lens of recovery these days (or I try). I have a lot better good days than bad days. Recovery to me has given me the opportunity to start over again and live life more the way it support to be; Happy, Joyous and Free! As long as I'm in recovery and working a program and reaching out to help others, God with take care of the rest. Recovery comes first in my life because If I don't have recovery, I can't have anything else! Glenn
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    ? about FirstLab or drug testing...

    I am sorry if you are offended. Just out of curiosity, why do you want to know what option 7 is? I suppose you could ask your case manager or your monitor what the options includes? For me, it really doesn't matter other than what it costs me to test. I always get tested with option 3 and have no idea what that test includes. Good luck
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    success rate for VRP type programs

    This recovery thing is probably one of the hardest things you will ever do in your life! The good news is depending on how you handle recovery and have a desire for change in yourself and work to achieve what God wants you to do, you will become grateful and thankful of how your life is at the other end. Life in recovery will become your greatest achievements and rewards you will ever receive. I did not have a clue how it could change! When I first got in recovery, life really sucked! I thought I would never see the light at the end, but slowly it got better. The cloud started to lift, the anxiety got less and I started to smile and laugh. I started to surrender and accept things just the way they are. I stopped simply playing God! Today I'm very grateful and possibly would never have become the person I am today without walking through this thing called recovery. Today I am a grateful drug addict but it did not happen over night. Early recovery can be very difficult as it was for me but today I view life through lens of the 12-steps and what God would want me to do. Recovery and how to live life is everything to me, including my nursing license, family, friends, money, material things....If I don't have recovery and how to live life, then I can't have anything including my own life!
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    ? about FirstLab or drug testing...

    I have no idea what option 7 is? To me, it really doesn't matter what the options are because I doing the recovery thing. It really shouldn't matter other than what it costs me to test. I've been doing this testing thing for 3 years now and it is becoming routine. It none of my business what the options are.
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    success rate for VRP type programs

    Don't know of any statistics of monitoring programs but know of more that have completed than not. Hang in there; it will become routine. Acceptance is the key right know. Just do what you are told and it will get easier. I've been doing this thing for 3 years now and down to about one test a month. That's with no issues. At first, the board does not trust you until you prove some sobriety; usually about a year or so. The key is recovery and just not sobriety and everything else will take of it self. I have a good relationship with my monitor and they are there to help me and do what is in my best interest. It was difficult at first but it does get better. Best of luck!