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  1. griffon

    barely passing NLE... how important is it??

    Ranking the applicants through their board ratings is just one tool the managers use to help thin out the list. They do they same thing in the US. I was asked to supply my transcripts, since the NCLEX doesn't have a board ratings, with my application. Some hospitals will even post on their website a minimum GPA is required to even apply. There are too many new grad nurses fighting over too few new grad nursing slots in the US as well. So don't think the process is unfair. It's just a simple supply/demand problem. Too many nurses, too few open positions. If you don't believe there is an over supply of new nurses across the USA. Please check out the different states under the "Region" tab above. You will read about the heartache American nurses are going through after several months of not even receiving an interview, much more a job offer. So do the best you can on your NLE. Remember to study and brush up on your readings and skill set. Because you are always selling yourself in every interaction.
  2. griffon

    Who wants to work in USA

    It's great that your agency has this program. I would really look into the fine print and make sure you are not charged a huge cancellation fee if you, the hiring company, the US govt, or the agency could not place you. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for everyone to get ahead and make something with their lives. I just believe that to be successful you need to be able to have a back up plan that is viable. Just in case Plan A doesn't work. At this point, both AUS and Saudi are open to new grads. Why don't you pursue one of those countries in the mean time. The US may not lift retrogression in 1 year, 2 years or even 10 years. In either case your paperwork for the US will be waiting in line for you and you will be making money in another country and getting real world nursing experience. So when you do step foot on US soil you will be there not as a inexperienced nurse, but as a veteran nurse with general knowledge as well as a specialty under her belt. Good luck with your career.
  3. griffon

    Happy Birthday Suzanne

    :shbdy: happy birthday suzanne!!! thank you for your continued support and expertise through this maze we call nursing.
  4. Dave787, she's right. The government is just keeping the status quo. They seem to be doing the least amount of work to show the public that they are supposedly working for the people. These pacts they pledge with ASEAN are a call for caregivers and not for RNs. If the Philippines really wants to open the licensing to foreigners and allow them to practice as general RNs then I'm all for it. I don't see a reason why they would keep foreigners out. PRC already allows for RN specialists, but not for general RNs. I wonder what the PRC or government is afraid of. It can't be because of the multitude of open RN positions in the Philippines. We both know there are probably several dozen/hundreds of applicants for every position. It can't be because of the oh-so-lofty salary of 6,000 to 9,000 pesos/month. Because we know that this barely covers daily transportation and food expenses. Can it be for the training? The training where our own government allows their hospitals to CHARGE us to volunteer? Training programs that other nations seem fit to redo with their more advance ways of doing things? What is the use of new laws/regulations if they don't follow them? It saddens me to know how many suffer for the elite to remain in power. As citizens we need not only demand that our country change for the better, but also to oversee the changes/laws they have made are upheld. The recent scandals and questionable deals our country has made spells outright hypocrisy. You wonder if a dictatorship is better for the country, where only the same handful of people steal from the public. Hopefully they will steal enough and leave the crumbs for the rest. While in today's government where there are a fresh group of politicians every few years who not only take the majority of our taxes, but also the crumbs.
  5. Actually foreign nurses are allowed to practice in the Philippines. Sec. 21. Practice Through Special/Temporary Permit.-A special/temporary permit may be issued by the Board to the following persons subject to the approval of the Commission and upon payment of the prescribed fees: (a) Licensed nurses from foreign countries/states whose service are either for a fee or free if they are internationally well-known specialists or outstanding experts in any branch or specialty of nursing; (b) Licensed nurses from foreign countries/states on medical mission whose services shall be free in a particular hospital, center or clinic; and © Licensed nurses from foreign countries/states employed by schools/colleges of nursing as exchange professors in a branch or specialty of nursing; Provided, however, That the special/temporary permit shall be effective only for the duration of the project, medical mission or employment contract.
  6. The Philippines has found a way to keep nurses here. They have put into law the minimum salary that nurses who work for the public govt are to be paid of no less than salary grade 15. Which is around 16,000 pesos/month. This is a decent wage for a new nurse. RA 9173: Sec. 32. Salary.-In order to enhance the general welfare, commitment to service and professionalism of nurses, the minimum base pay of nurses working in the public health institutions shall not be lower than salary grade 15 prescribed under Republic Act No. 6758 The problem is they don't enforce it.
  7. So you've seen incompetence from 1 person or maybe even a handful of people and now you want to change the NCLEX to include a skills exam. Hold on now, sounds a little drastic. It sounds more like a training problem within your organization. Hospitals have training or orientation programs not only for new hires but also for seasoned workers. Every place does things a little different. Our own nursing based practice is designed to utilize new data for better patient care. When new information shows a better way of doing things then we will adapt to the new technique/information. An example of which was AHA adult CPR was changed to 30 compressions for every 2 breaths. But were we wrong in the previous method of 15:2? If you ask the victims who survived their tragedy the answer would be NO. Knowledge changes and our jobs as nurses are to educate others. I've spent multiple years in corporate America and encountered my fair share of less than stellar performance from my fellow co-workers. Most of the time the problem was not with the person, but it was the system or the culture of the organization that was different than what they are used to. Have a little patience, not everyone is at the same level. I really believe everyone wants to do a good job. They just need to be shown the company's way of doing things to get it "correct". The "foreign trained nurse" shows initiative. She's at least asking questions when unsure of the answer. The worse is when people don't ask or have no clue they are doing something wrong. That's where you should be afraid. If a nurse or doctor or any other medical personnel, regardless of where they were trained, are a danger to themselves or to others than that information needs to go beyond the proverbial "nurses station" and directly to management/HR for retraining, disciplinary action or removal. "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." --- Albert Einstein.
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    Real Wait Time for CA NCLEX

    hello everyone, i just have to get a realistic feeling about the wait time to get the eligibility letter for ca nclex. i followed up with ca and received an email saying it will take 12 to 20 weeks to process my application. the other day marked 8 weeks with at least 4 more to go. the hard part is my friends received their eligibility in less than 8 weeks in 2007. my fiancé received her eligibility within 5 weeks. we both graduated from the same place and at the same time. we sent in the application and turned everything over at the same time. but hers is here and i'm still anxiously waiting. i'm the us citizen and she is a filipino citizen. so if i can get some feedback about the real wait time i can then get refocused back to the task at hand, which is to pass the mythical nclex. thanks. how long did it take for you to get your eligibility from ca???
  9. griffon

    Good Nursing School in the Philippines

    hello, i'm on my last trimester of a 22 month program to get my bsn at pwu-qc. i will be the first to tell you that they are not perfect. but they make up for it in helping their students with the administrative aspect of class schedule, duty rotations and just having a understanding attitude. after going to duty with multiple schools and hearing their stories of their school programs i feel lucky i ended up at pwu-qc. i heard stories of students not liking their present school and wanted to transfer but can't get their school to give them the transcripts. at another school i hear that their clinical instructor wasn't even a nurse or a doctor but a midwife to teach them. i figure when you pay that much money on tuition you deserve the best they can give you. if that is the best then i just have to question why go there? there are other horror stories you can read about on the official website of the republic of the philippines forum (http://www.gov.ph/forum/default.asp). anyone interested in getting your bsn from a reputable college should have pwu at quezon city on your short list of schools. they have a trimester program for 2nd coursers that will get you to graduation in less than 2 years. it's not a school for a lazy student. you will have to have the discipline to read and study on your own. they do not spoon feed you the information that you need to pass the boards. they sometimes don't list the pages you need to read. they believe you are a professional and hence don't need to tell you the pages numbers. if you can't find the topic within the textbook then you have bigger issues. they present the material via powerpoint and it gives you enough information to pass their exams. there is really no need to take notes since they hand you the presentation at the end of class. pwu believes you are there to learn the material and not waste your time scribbling down notes. but it will be your job to reinforce the material from the textbooks to fully understand the material for the nursing boards. (tip: be prepared to look at other textbooks beyond what they recommend) related learning experience is not a joke there. they will put you in hospitals working on live people. other schools have dummies to simulate the real world. pwu sticks you in the real world. this is where you put theory into practice. don't worry there will be an instructor (an rn or a doctor/rn) by your side to help you navigate through your fears as well as get you through your rotation. as for cheating, well that goes hand-in-hand with schooling. i've seen it occur in school and the administration tries to control it. will the cheating hurt an honest student ....no. pwu has there own way of dealing with it. if you give a half hearted attempt you will pass their exams. but you have to realize continuing a half hearted attempt throughout the 2 years will definitely fail you on the nursing boards. so yes you will pass school, but no you will not pass the boards. so it begs the question... why go to school if you won't pass the boards. so study hard. some were asking about weekends and evening classes. pwu doesn't have evening classes and you will be going to school and going to hospital duty 6 days a week, at different hours. some rotations you are on days, some you are there overnight. it depends on the rotation. on your last trimester they add sunday for your review class for the boards. yes, that means 7 days a week either going to class, going to duty or both. hey, you wanted to finish asap. then this is the school for you. at least we are by trinoma and sm north to take your mind off your studies. they can be reached at tel. no. 926-9312, 920-6309, 920-6313. they have ongoing quarterly enrollment. so you can enter either june, sept or jan qtr. i recommend coming in during the june batch, just my preference.
  10. griffon

    Tuition in Phils deductible for US tax returns?

    This is the link from the IRS. It may help in finding your answer. http://www.irs.gov/publications/p970/ch06.html
  11. I feel your pain. I also looked at leaving this school, but after looking at my options and time frame I realized that this is the best school. So we suffer some misguided moral boosting activities and suffer through some questionable superiors. If you take a close look doesn't this remind you of any job out there? Don't employers make you attend meetings, rallies, retreats and even parties. You can say 'No', but that wouldn't be helping your career. As for questionable superiors, well anyone who has worked under a supervisor can answer that question. Not all supervisors are worthy of being your superior. If you haven't done so already you should talk to other students from different schools during your duty. It may give you another perspective. I know it did for me. Cheer up. Graduation is around the corner. :yeah:The instructors have given us more time to review for the boards. Minor subjects have been truncated or even eliminated. It will be all worth it in the end.... Hopefully
  12. griffon

    Schools for 2nd coursers - BS Nursing

    hello, i'm on my last trimester of a 22 month program to get my bsn at pwu-qc. i will be the first to tell you that they are not perfect. but they make up for it in helping their students with the administrative aspect of class schedule, duty rotations and just having a understanding attitude. after going to duty with multiple schools and hearing their stories of their school programs i feel lucky i ended up at pwu-qc. i heard of stories of students not liking their present school and wanted to transfer but can't get their school to give them the transcripts. at another school i hear that their clinical instructor wasn't even a nurse or a doctor but a midwife to teach them. i figure when you pay that much money on tuition you deserve the best they can give you. if that is the best then i just have to question why? there are other horror stories you can read about on the official website of the republic of the philippines forum (http://www.gov.ph/forum/default.asp). anyone interested in getting your bsn from a reputable college should have pwu at quezon city on your short list of schools. they have a trimester program for 2nd coursers that will get you to graduation in less than 2 years. it's not a school for a lazy student. you will have to have the discipline to read and study on your own. they do not spoon feed you the information that you need to pass the boards. they sometimes don't list the pages you need to read. they believe you are a professional and hence don't need to tell you the pages numbers. if you can't find the topic within the textbook then you have bigger issues. they present the material via powerpoint and it gives you enough information to pass their exams. there is really no need to take notes since they hand you the presentation at the end of class. pwu believes you are there to learn the material and not waste your time scribbling down notes. but it will be your job to reinforce the material from the textbooks to fully understand the material for the nursing boards. (tip: be prepared to look at other textbooks beyond what they recommend) related learning experience is not a joke there. they will put you in hospitals working on live people. other schools have dummies to simulate the real world. pwu sticks you in the real world. this is where you put theory into practice. don't worry there will be an instructor (an rn or a doctor/rn) by your side to help you navigate through your fears as well as get you through your rotation. as for cheating, well that goes hand-in-hand with schooling. i've seen it occur in school and the administration tries to control it. will the cheating hurt an honest student ....no. pwu has there own way of dealing with it. if you give a half hearted attempt you will pass their exams. but you have to realize continuing a half hearted attempt throughout the 2 years will definitely fail you on the nursing boards. so yes you will pass school, but no you will not pass the boards. so it begs the question... why go to school if you won't pass the boards. so study hard. some were asking about weekends and evening classes. pwu doesn't have evening classes and you will be going to school and going to hospital duty 6 days a week, at different hours. some rotations you are on days, some you are there overnight. it depends on the rotation. on your last trimester they add sunday for your review class for the boards. yes, that means 7 days a week either going to class, going to duty or both. hey, you wanted to finish asap. then this is the school for you. at least we are by trinoma and sm north to take your mind off your studies. they can be reached at tel. no. 926-9312, 920-6309, 920-6313. they have ongoing quarterly enrollment. so you can enter either june, sept or jan qtr. i recommend coming in during the june batch, just my preference.