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Wow. No one has started such a thread yet?
After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days, apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.
Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week, by the end of April.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-deal-biden-senate-us-mexico-border-bill/
QuoteA bipartisan group of lawmakers in Congress is on the verge of striking a deal with the Biden administration that would enact sweeping new border controls, including the authority to pause asylum processing during spikes in migrant crossings, three people familiar with the talks told CBS News.
After weeks of closed-door negotiations, the White House and a trio of senators could unveil an agreement as early as this week, the sources said, requesting anonymity due to the private nature of the conversations. The bill is designed to reduce the unprecedented levels of illegal crossings recorded along the southern border in the past three years.
How will Trump and his surrogates in Congress sabotage this bipartisan legislation? They certainly will attack it for Trump's benefit, but how will they try to sabotage the actual legislation so that they can complain about it not working right later? That's their MO.
LOL....Snopes tried to cover for him.
Beerman said:LOL....Snopes tried to cover for him.
Give me a minute while I consider the irony of Fox News reporting on a fact checking site making a correction after considering other evidence or facts.
What was the cover up?
QuoteEditor's Note: We received a ton of comments in a very short time challenging our assumption that wearing a hard hat "backwards" means wearing it with the brim facing to the rear, and "forwards" means wearing it brim to the front. On the basis of that assumption, we originally rated the claim that Biden was wearing a hard hat backwards as false.
The prevailing counter-argument is that if the suspension of the hat has been purposely configured by its owner such that the bill and tightening knob are worn to the back (as was the case of the hat Biden wore), to wear that hat with the bill facing forward is, practically speaking, to wear it backwards. Therefore, it's argued, it's actually true that, in the photo op discussed below, Biden was wearing it backwards. The strap and tightening knob, which should have been behind Biden's head, were on his forehead.
A corollary to that argument is "Biden looks damn silly in any case."
We find these arguments sound. Therefore, the claim "President Joe Biden wore a hard hat backwards during a photo op with union construction workers in Superior, Wisconsin" is true, and this fact check has been re-rated as such. Thanks to all who argued on behalf of this correction.
Meanwhile, in other Biden news, the immigration and border debate is getting interesting.
QuoteBidding to salvage a border deal in Congress that also would unlock money for Ukraine, President Joe Biden offered fresh assurances Saturday night that he would be willing to close the U.S.-Mexico border if lawmakers would only send him a bill to sign.
Biden — also eager to disarm GOP criticism of his handling of migration at the border — said at a political event in South Carolina that he would shut down the border ’“right now" if Congress passed the proposed deal. The framework hasn't been formally agreed to by Senate Democrats and Republicans and would face an uncertain future in the GOP-controlled House.
"A bipartisan bill would be good for America and help fix our broken immigration system and allow speedy access for those who deserve to be here, and Congress needs to get it done,” Biden said. "It'll also give me as president, the emergency authority to shut down the border until it could get back under control. If that bill were the law today, I'd shut down the border right now and fix it quickly.”
Will Trump continue to demand inaction?
Beerman said:LOL....Snopes tried to cover for him.
First - can't open that because Fox News now thinks it has to charge for its amazing content.
Second - why would anyone expect Biden to know how to wear hard hat? I certainly don't and it doesn't change my opinion of him. Many politicians would be unfamiliar in a construction setting with proper use of safety gear.
Third - probably most importantly why is THIS something that gets your attention rather than respond to the politics at the border that Trump is apparently trying to sabotage any action for his own political purpose. What an unfortunate football to be playing right now with people's lives.
And a side note, where is all the fact checking on Fox News when it comes to the lies that flow from Trump every single day?
mtmkjr said:First - can't open that because Fox News now thinks it has to charge for its amazing content
No charge. Just a email address. I have a "burner" address for such things.
mtmkjr said:Second - why would anyone expect Biden to know how to wear hard hat? I certainly don't and it doesn't change my opinion of him. Many politicians would be unfamiliar in a construction setting with proper use of safety gear.
Common sense. Most hats, including his bicycle helmet, adjust in the back, bill in the front. But, I agree. Not a big deal.
mtmkjr said:Third - probably most importantly why is THIS something that gets your attention rather than respond to the politics at the border that Trump is apparently trying to sabotage any action for his own political purpose. What an unfortunate football to be playing right now with people's lives.
IDK. Why did you feel the need to write a few paragraphs about me caring about it?
The more important part of this is the fact that Snopes twisted themselves in knots, damaged their credibility, and showed their bias over something so benign. Snopes is occasionally cited as a reliable source by others here. In this case Snopes tried to tell everyone that those who said he was wearing it incorrectly were wrong. The world knew better.
mtmkjr said:And a side note, where is all the fact checking on Fox News when it comes to the lies that flow from Trump every single day?
Deflection by bringing up Trump. You'll fit in nicely here.
mtmkjr said:First - can't open that because Fox News now thinks it has to charge for its amazing content.
Second - why would anyone expect Biden to know how to wear hard hat? I certainly don't and it doesn't change my opinion of him. Many politicians would be unfamiliar in a construction setting with proper use of safety gear.
Third - probably most importantly why is THIS something that gets your attention rather than respond to the politics at the border that Trump is apparently trying to sabotage any action for his own political purpose. What an unfortunate football to be playing right now with people's lives.
And a side note, where is all the fact checking on Fox News when it comes to the lies that flow from Trump every single day?
Good questions. I feel it's a deliberate attempt to make sure we don't look over there. In a word, intellectual bullying.
Beerman said:LOL....Snopes tried to cover for him.
Who cares? If you read the comments, some hard-hat wearers actually do wear their hat backwards on purpose. Is this your best shot at Biden?
subee said:Who cares? If you read the comments, some hard-hat wearers actually do wear their hat backwards on purpose. Is this your best shot at Biden?
It's evidence that the cognitive decline of Biden's most popular opponent is becoming too obvious, too often. They can't make that guy look sharper but they can tear Biden down.
toomuchbaloney said:It's evidence that the cognitive decline of Biden's most popular opponent is becoming too obvious, too often. They can't make that guy look sharper but they can tear Biden down.
That actually was more of a shot at Snopes. Some here have in the past cited them as though they are a credible non-biased source. They revealed themselves in a obvious way here.
This was actually a old-school funny Biden gaffe. Not the tragic senile type we've seen of late.
I'm amazed how many are offended that it was brought up.
subee said:Who cares? If you read the comments, some hard-hat wearers actually do wear their hat backwards on purpose. Is this your best shot at Biden?
That was really more of a shot at Snopes than Biden. See my reply to TMB.
You actually believe Biden consciously decided to put it on backward and it just wasn't a Bidenesque gaffe?
Dems still using the typical pages from the Dem playbook.
Projection: Biden is obviously the one with cognitive decline.
Blaming Republicans for the border crisis (or anything else) that Biden created/allowed on day 1 of his administration. How long have they been saying the border is "not open" (even though it obviously was/is), now Biden blaming Reps for not allowing him to "close" the border, meanwhile millions of illegals have already entered with little to no vetting and costing the taxpayers millions of dollars. Biden could have stopped this at anytime and choose not to but blames Republicans, he is a joke. There are already laws on the books that Biden refuses to enforce. Biden and Myorkis should be impeached for dereliction of duty!
Biden is a menace to this country and if you couldn't see it in 2020 hopefully you can now for 2024, (which is of course why the dog and pony shows are happening now bc of Bidens possible reelection).
https://victorhanson.com/2024-the-year-of-our-reckoning/
This article , along with many of his others, is worth a read. (And just for the record I know nothing of the website it was on but enjoy his articles).
Beerman said:LOL....Snopes tried to cover for him.
The media and "fact checkers" have been covering for him for a very long time!
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Sez this guy. I think that Biden almost always sounds presidential. He uses complete sentences in paragraphs that are thoughtfully written. He can expound on the big ideas. I'm surprised to hear that Van Jones said even said that.