President Biden thread

10 minutes ago, Beerman said:

I said something similar recently:

"Third, killing the Keystone XL pipeline was the sort of sonic-boom signal the oil market hears and reacts to. That was a Day 1 priority for Biden. Once he canceled it, the global market for oil guessed that less petroleum would be forthcoming from North America. Markets are forward-looking. Telegraph a tightening of production and prices go up."

As I pointed out, that oil industry perspective and guess about petroleum production prognostications for North America are contradictory to other, expert analysis.  I'm pretty sure that I provided a solid citation fir that. 

The markets are more forward thinking than some would imagine. Do you remember reading about this?

I would think that if the market was forward looking they might have taken advantage what opportunities they had for getting oil from North America.

There is the thought that constructing Keystone could help alleviate problems in the future, there doesn't seem to be much evidence that it's cancellation is responsible for much, if any of the rise in gas prices.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/01/facebook-posts/no-evidence-biden-canceling-oil-pipeline-caused-hi/

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according to several experts, the existing Keystone pipeline has plenty of excess capacity to handle the increased volume of oil from Canada. As a side note, Canada is the largest foreign supplier of crude oil to the U.S. In short, the effect of this action on rising gasoline prices is negligible.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2022/03/09/the-real-reason-behind-surging-gas-prices/?sh=13f61acc26de

I don't think that the cancelling of Keystone is a big factor in our current inflation.  But there is the idea that it over-all was a mistake.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2022/03/10/why-bidens-killing-of-keystone-xl-was-a-big-energy-blunder/?sh=1017901113fd

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Biden's approval rating, down three percentage points from the prior week, mirrors that which his Republican predecessor, Donald Trump, received at this point in his presidency, as both stood at 40% in mid-March in their second year in office.

Trump's approval rating sank as low as 33% in December 2017.

Poll respondents cited the economy as their top concern, followed by war and foreign conflicts.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-approval-rating-drops-new-low-40-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2022-03-22/?fbclid=IwAR36wzhcmX_Ve1ErKWBHo4aL7BaBC14vixxhiIEuuZUP7S-J775zUARSb44

Clinton successfully beat George Bush making him a one-term president on the idea of "it's the economy stupid".  

Take note Biden.

12 hours ago, Tweety said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-approval-rating-drops-new-low-40-reutersipsos-poll-finds-2022-03-22/?fbclid=IwAR36wzhcmX_Ve1ErKWBHo4aL7BaBC14vixxhiIEuuZUP7S-J775zUARSb44

Clinton successfully beat George Bush making him a one-term president on the idea of "it's the economy stupid".  

Take note Biden.

I did a quick Google check and the reports are that the economy is booming under Biden so I don't know where you and others are thinking otherwise.  Even in my own city's newspaper this morning was a report from the AP on how we are we are wealthier (even poorer citizens) than we were in 2016.  People are willing to buy and pay more for stuff, including gas.  Maybe less people will be driving motor houses across the country this Summer but we've been here before and it's a small sacrifice for MOST people.  So where's the rub here - especially with the circumstances we are in?

43 minutes ago, subee said:

I did a quick Google check and the reports are that the economy is booming under Biden so I don't know where you and others are thinking otherwise.  Even in my own city's newspaper this morning was a report from the AP on how we are we are wealthier (even poorer citizens) than we were in 2016.  People are willing to buy and pay more for stuff, including gas.  Maybe less people will be driving motor houses across the country this Summer but we've been here before and it's a small sacrifice for MOST people.  So where's the rub here - especially with the circumstances we are in?

I was reporting what the polls were saying.  I didn't say the economy was bad.  That's a spin.

I'm saying the concerns about the economy are bringing down Biden's numbers.

I think we've discussed in this forum that people's incomes are being eroded by inflation and energy prices, people blame Biden and they equate this with the economy.  A friend of a friend the other day was just saying "were are in a poop (not his words) economy" and blamed Biden.  There's a disconnect there.

People don't understand that a main driver of inflation and high energy prices is the good and somewhat overheated economy.  People are traveling more,  spending more, buying more cars, starting more projects.  Here in Florida used Toyotas are in such high demand I have gotten no less that four texts from salespersons where I bought my 2018 car all because I'm taking it in for service tomorrow.  Furniture is in such high demand it takes over six months once you pick out what you want.  Same for remodeling projects and appliances.  Our unemployment rate is 3.5, almost 2019 levels.  The hotels in the beaches are booked solid with Spring breakers, snowbirds from Canada arrived in large numbers after staying home for two years.  Florida's budget is flush with cash and the governor sent though the biggest budget in history. 

How this person that lives here in Florida would say we have a crappy economy is a mystery of effective right wing rhetoric and poor messaging by the left.

I chose my battles on this one as I know when to keep my mouth shut.  

Still when there's high inflation and gas prices people want a scapegoat and it's Biden.  

Propaganda works.

5 hours ago, Tweety said:

I was reporting what the polls were saying.  I didn't say the economy was bad.  That's a spin.

I'm saying the concerns about the economy are bringing down Biden's numbers.

I think we've discussed in this forum that people's incomes are being eroded by inflation and energy prices, people blame Biden and they equate this with the economy.  A friend of a friend the other day was just saying "were are in a poop (not his words) economy" and blamed Biden.  There's a disconnect there.

People don't understand that a main driver of inflation and high energy prices is the good and somewhat overheated economy.  People are traveling more,  spending more, buying more cars, starting more projects.  Here in Florida used Toyotas are in such high demand I have gotten no less that four texts from salespersons where I bought my 2018 car all because I'm taking it in for service tomorrow.  Furniture is in such high demand it takes over six months once you pick out what you want.  Same for remodeling projects and appliances.  Our unemployment rate is 3.5, almost 2019 levels.  The hotels in the beaches are booked solid with Spring breakers, snowbirds from Canada arrived in large numbers after staying home for two years.  Florida's budget is flush with cash and the governor sent though the biggest budget in history. 

How this person that lives here in Florida would say we have a crappy economy is a mystery of effective right wing rhetoric and poor messaging by the left.

I chose my battles on this one as I know when to keep my mouth shut.  

Still when there's high inflation and gas prices people want a scapegoat and it's Biden.  

Well, Tweety, those people who blame Biden for a "bad" economy are just WRONG.  Now, I get the tenor of what you are saying but I have no idea how to cure stupid so I'm so lucky that I don't have to be exposed to them except from the news, which I am avoiding more and more these days to conserve my energy.  I had to laugh at 4:35 yesterday afternoon while watching the Brown Jackson hearing.  When I was watch Kavanaugh in 2018, I noticed that he was getting twitchy around that time and by five he was asking his inquisitors if they liked beer.  She is not a perfect witness either, but at least she remains calm, polite, no more evasive than anyone else in the hot seat and doesn't appear to badly need a drink by 5 pm, but I sure did after watching Ted Cruz and the other loons.

Overall, judge Jackson has represented herself well. She should be confirmed. 

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The top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said the line was a "horrendous gaffe," urging Biden to "stay on script."

"As you pointed out already, there was a horrendous gaffe right at the end of it,” Sen. James Risch of Idaho, told host Dana Bash on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “I wish he would stay on script. Whoever wrote that speech did a good job for him. But my gosh, I wish they would keep him on script. Please Mr. President, stay on script.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-seek-clarify-bidens-putin-remark-republicans-knock-mistake-rcna21749?fbclid=IwAR2F30vKtGpm-2EbFrFeUewM2u4bJG0XmL7Zkb_XnNznd3isB-qL0R0-C54

I guess Republicans aren't as hawkish as I thought.  But yes, it is the stance of NATO and the US to not go to war with Russia or get Putin out of power.  But I wouldn't call it a "horrendous gaffe".  It really is the sentiment of a lot of people that Putin must not remain in power.  Obviously we're not going to be the one to dispose him.   His people won't either.

35 minutes ago, Tweety said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-seek-clarify-bidens-putin-remark-republicans-knock-mistake-rcna21749?fbclid=IwAR2F30vKtGpm-2EbFrFeUewM2u4bJG0XmL7Zkb_XnNznd3isB-qL0R0-C54

I guess Republicans aren't as hawkish as I thought.  But yes, it is the stance of NATO and the US to not go to war with Russia or get Putin out of power.  But I wouldn't call it a "horrendous gaffe".  It really is the sentiment of a lot of people that Putin must not remain in power.  Obviously we're not going to be the one to dispose him.   His people won't either.

Agreed. Most people aren't calling it a horrendous gaffe.  Is unfortunate that the spokesperson tried to walk it back, IMV. Many people are thinking what Biden said...all across the globe people think what he said.  

We just recently had a president who "spoke his mind" and his voters loved that then.  

9 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Agreed. Most people aren't calling it a horrendous gaffe.  Is unfortunate that the spokesperson tried to walk it back, IMV. Many people are thinking what Biden said...all across the globe people think what he said.  

We just recently had a president who "spoke his mind" and his voters loved that then.  

I went to see what Fox News is saying and their opinion is expected.

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Biden's reckless words, Ukraine missteps raise risks for US

Joe Biden is a danger to the United States

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-reckless-words-ukraine-missteps-risks-us-liz-peek

France wants to tone it down.

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French President Emmanuel Macron on Sunday distanced himself from comments by U.S. President Joe Biden, who called Vladimir Putin a “butcher” who “cannot remain in power.”

Macron told broadcaster France 3 that his focus was on helping broker a ceasefire between Kyiv and Moscow, followed by a complete withdrawal of Russian troops through diplomacy.

“If we want to do that, we can’t escalate either in words or actions,” Macro

https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-warns-against-escalation-after-bidens-criticism-of-putin/

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OKSANA MARKAROVA,UKRAINIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES

"We heard President Biden loud and clear, that the U.S. will aid and will be with Ukraine in this fight," Markarova told NBC News' 'Meet the Press' on Sunday.

"We clearly understand in Ukraine that anyone who's a war criminal, who attacks a neighboring country, who's doing all these atrocities together with all the Russians that are involved definitely cannot stay in power in a civilized world. Now, it's all up to all of us to stop Putin."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/reactions-biden-saying-putin-cannot-remain-power-2022-03-27/?fbclid=IwAR3GA4hFd5sHKx9sh8yr8_0hcPKeDi4zMAf3y4oBTWyxUCaqcdJFy9jlV1w