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After promising that most K-8 students would be in schools in the first 100 days,  apparently Joe is afraid to lead on this and has drastically scaled back that goal.

Instead, we're shooting for about half to go to school at least one day a week,  by the end of April.

https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-02-09/bidens-goal-for-school-reopenings-suddenly-became-more-attainable

 

12 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Exactly correct.  Trump was a really good example of that. 

That's fine if you believe that.  Just be consistent.

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5 minutes ago, Beerman said:

And if it wasn't obvious before, it is now that she was chosen only because she was a black woman.

LOL

Of course, because in the world of conservative politics Kamala Harris has no experience, education or qualifications for the vice presidency but at the same time Trump is/was fully qualified for the presidency.  

That's the type of logic and thinking that makes it hard to take conservative assessments seriously.  

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6 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That's fine if you believe that.  Just be consistent.

I've been very consistent in my acknowledgment of Trump's racism, corruption, narcissism and habitual lying.  Do you want to talk about the elements of racism that are tightly woven into our everyday American language and life styles? Maybe we should start a thread on critical race theory. 

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14 minutes ago, Beerman said:

And if it wasn't obvious before, it is now that she was chosen only because she was a black woman.

Somewhere along the line it was established and expected that he pick a minority and a minority female at that.  So I agree that she was picked because she was female and mixed race.  But beyond that he picked her for her experience in the senate where she was much admired for how she conducted herself even while ridiculed by the right.  She was viewed as experienced, tough and no-nonsense and was a brilliant choice.  The liberal public love how she conducted the hearings during the Trump years.   It won him the Presidency.  

No we can go on how she has performed since electron and has the lowest approval rating of any VP in history but not the point you're making.

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29 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Just the typical evidence you would expect to follow a privileged old white man.  He did get to serve alongside the first black president and gave us our first black and female VP.

Some people evolve and should be given credit for that.  The radical wokeness movement is disturbing and part of what keeps the Dems in disarray....IMHO.

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29 minutes ago, subee said:

Some people evolve and should be given credit for that.  The radical wokeness movement is disturbing and part of what keeps the Dems in disarray....IMHO.

I think that's two parts.  First part, yes people should give credit for evolving as time goes on.  My parents called me all sorts of names and sent to therapy when I came out 40 years ago.  Today they are pro-gay marriage and 100% accepting and will argue with anyone about gay equality.  I can't hold on to the hurt of the past.  On a political level Obama came around to being pro-gay marriage after his initial stance was against it.  We shouldn't totally judge people on stances of the past if they've been enlightened.

But I think wokeness and the disarray it causes isn't a bad thing if it leads to a better place.  I think looking at things like equality, language, fat shaming, sexism and racism are important even if it shakes things up a little bit.

The problem is that it can be alienating, and not everyone is on board with it, especially in areas that are purple and can swing the election the wrong direction for democrats.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/12/politics/woke-green-new-deal-defund-the-police/index.html

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33 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think that's two parts.  First part, yes people should give credit for evolving as time goes on.  My parents called me all sorts of names and sent to therapy when I came out 40 years ago.  Today they are pro-gay marriage and 100% accepting and will argue with anyone about gay equality.  I can't hold on to the hurt of the past.  On a political level Obama came around to being pro-gay marriage after his initial stance was against it.  We shouldn't totally judge people on stances of the past if they've been enlightened.

But I think wokeness and the disarray it causes isn't a bad thing if it leads to a better place.  I think looking at things like equality, language, fat shaming, sexism and racism are important even if it shakes things up a little bit.

The problem is that it can be alienating, and not everyone is on board with it, especially in areas that are purple and can swing the election the wrong direction for democrats.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/12/politics/woke-green-new-deal-defund-the-police/index.html

You expressed my thinking on this very eloquently.  Well said. 

"Wokeness" is nothing more than social growth with increased insight, empathy and altruism for all rather than a few.  Growth is always uncomfortable on some level.  Personal growth is rarely easy. IMV 

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21 hours ago, Tweety said:

Again, another controversy I'm not aware of, but I do tend to learn as I go.  Perhaps you can tell me what you're talking about.  There's a few things Google is telling me, about lynching, a line of trees in a golf course that was planted for racist reasons, something about VP Harris. 

Enlighten me.  I really want to know.

That's it. Not a big deal but saying trees are racist is even silly for today's standards. Thats why I mentioned it. And even if the placement was "racist" at one time it is not now. There are more actual issues of racism we could focus on. 

To me some of these democrats running for political position are pushing the everything is racist to somehow improve their image. Pure virtue signaling and very little care about who they say they want to "help". 

Yes republicans do this too, all politicians do but trying to idolize yourself as a civil rights defender by insinuating everything is racist only looks like pandering and exploitation in my opinion. 

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5 minutes ago, Cclm said:

That's it. Not a big deal but saying trees are racist is even silly for today's standards. Thats why I mentioned it. And even if the placement was "racist" at one time it is not now. There are more actual issues of racism we could focus on. 

To me some of these democrats running for political position are pushing the everything is racist to somehow improve their image. Pure virtue signaling and very little care about who they say they want to "help". 

Yes republicans do this too, all politicians do but trying to idolize yourself as a civil rights defender by insinuating everything is racist only looks like pandering and exploitation in my opinion. 

It might sound silly or too woke, but I think we've reach a point in our society that we do need to acknowledge these subtle racisms because so many people say racism doesn't exist any more in America.   

https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-in-us-2021-4

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3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You expressed my thinking on this very eloquently.  Well said. 

"Wokeness" is nothing more than social growth with increased insight, empathy and altruism for all rather than a few.  Growth is always uncomfortable on some level.  Personal growth is rarely easy. IMV 

Yes witness is great! Fat shaming? Well is it growth and empathy to promote the idea that obesity isn't a health issue and people can be healthy when they weigh 300 and are 5'3. All because it's discrimination to point this out? So these people go on and die young? Well at least they felt good about being oneself! Too bad they can't enjoy more....because they are dead. 

Nobody deserves to be humiliated, made fun of or be treated badly for what they look like. However going along with some of these falsified claims can lead to people dying because nobody wanted to offend them. 

Yes teach about history of racism but if your child comes home feeling like crap because of the color of their skin, including white skin something is wrong. 

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1 minute ago, Tweety said:

It might sound silly or too woke, but I think we've reach a point in our society that we do need to acknowledge these subtle racisms because so many people say racism doesn't exist any more in America.   

https://www.businessinsider.com/lindsey-graham-systemic-racism-doesnt-exist-in-us-2021-4

Anyone who says it doesn't exist is either very dumb or ignorant. 

I believe that racism exist even towards white people but I do not believe our society is just as racist during the pre Civil rights era or slave days. 

Those types of claims only lead people to not take racism seriously. More harm than good. 

(I'm not referring you made any claims like that)

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23 minutes ago, Cclm said:

Yes witness is great! Fat shaming? Well is it growth and empathy to promote the idea that obesity isn't a health issue and people can be healthy when they weigh 300 and are 5'3. All because it's discrimination to point this out? So these people go on and die young? Well at least they felt good about being oneself! Too bad they can't enjoy more....because they are dead. 

Nobody deserves to be humiliated, made fun of or be treated badly for what they look like. However going along with some of these falsified claims can lead to people dying because nobody wanted to offend them. 

Yes teach about history of racism but if your child comes home feeling like crap because of the color of their skin, including white skin something is wrong. 

Really unless you're the person's best friend, a doctor or a nurse taking direct care of them, or their family, then commenting that a person is fat is not necessary.  Keeping silent is just decency and not "not trying to offend them and I'm going to kill them".  When we teach people not to judge a person how they look then we can teach them equality and acceptance and meeting them where they are.  

Chances are the person knows they are fat and knows the problems inherent.  Obesity isn't something to be celebrated, but it's also someone that needs to be accepted so we as health professionals can meet people where they are.  That person fat shamed might be just so proud of themselves for losing 10 pounds the last month.  They are strong, they are in control.  Also there is food inequities and racism in the availability of healthy food.  Yes I said it.

I do understand the movement of people like singer Lizzo parading and celebrating her obese body and not wanting to offend her by keeping silent might cause her harm.  You never know someone's struggle and the hurt you can cause.

As was pointed out growth is sometimes hard.  I can see it's a struggle to keep a child's self esteem intact but we have to find a way to teach history anyway rather than gloss over it with the idea that happy people were brought over to work the farms in the South.

It's complicated.

 

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