President Biden thread

3 hours ago, Beerman said:

Let's see how PB handles this "racist highway system" crisis before we start talking about him running for POTUS.  LOL.

I had to Google that because for a crisis I hadn't heard of it.  Interesting topic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58106414

Our progressive (outgoing) mayor apparently understood.  I'm pretty sure if you look at imminent domain the history is disproportionate.  

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“Black and brown neighborhoods have been disproportionately divided by highway projects or left isolated by the lack of adequate transit and transportation resources,” he wrote.

“In the Biden-Harris administration, we will make righting these wrongs an imperative.”

Kriseman retweeted that and added his own take.

“This is why I’d like to see 175 come down between the Trop and the neighborhoods to the south,” he wrote. “We’ve broken down some figurative barriers in this city. This is a literal one that should be flattened someday.”

 https://floridapolitics.com/archives/390251-joe-henderson-for-rick-kriseman-I-175-is-a-racial-dividing-wall-in-st-petersburg/

https://www.fox13news.com/news/officials-target-undoing-racial-divides-created-by-florida-highways-interstates

1 hour ago, Cclm said:

Don't forget the "racist trees". 

Again, another controversy I'm not aware of, but I do tend to learn as I go.  Perhaps you can tell me what you're talking about.  There's a few things Google is telling me, about lynching, a line of trees in a golf course that was planted for racist reasons, something about VP Harris. 

Enlighten me.  I really want to know.

4 hours ago, Tweety said:

Again, another controversy I'm not aware of, but I do tend to learn as I go.  Perhaps you can tell me what you're talking about.  There's a few things Google is telling me, about lynching, a line of trees in a golf course that was planted for racist reasons, something about VP Harris. 

Enlighten me.  I really want to know.

Perhaps she speaking about the lack of street trees in black and brown urban neighborhoods, that offer shade and lower Summer temperatures? 

4 hours ago, Tweety said:

I had to Google that because for a crisis I hadn't heard of it.  Interesting topic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58106414

Our progressive (outgoing) mayor apparently understood.  I'm pretty sure if you look at imminent domain the history is disproportionate.  

 https://floridapolitics.com/archives/390251-joe-henderson-for-rick-kriseman-I-175-is-a-racial-dividing-wall-in-st-petersburg/

https://www.fox13news.com/news/officials-target-undoing-racial-divides-created-by-florida-highways-interstates

Probably very many Americans are unaware.  It's important that we learn about these inequities but that learning gets mischaracterized by those inflamed by racial topics. 

I think that Biden wants to be a president who confronts racism directly.  I also think that he says stupid things related to race that reflect his generation and experience. 

1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Probably very many Americans are unaware.  It's important that we learn about these inequities but that learning gets mischaracterized by those inflamed by racial topics. I think that Biden wants to be a president who confronts racism directly.  I also think that he says stupid things related to race that reflect his generation and experience. 

Yes, anything around being "woke" is ridiculed and is considered "cancel culture".

I think his heart's in the right place and he wants to make things better and make minorities feel like they've been heard.  I think it goes beyond pandering to liberals and to his base.  Just my gut feeling about him, at least on the issue of race relations.

15 hours ago, Tweety said:

I had to Google that because for a crisis I hadn't heard of it.  Interesting topic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58106414

Our progressive (outgoing) mayor apparently understood.  I'm pretty sure if you look at imminent domain the history is disproportionate.  

 https://floridapolitics.com/archives/390251-joe-henderson-for-rick-kriseman-I-175-is-a-racial-dividing-wall-in-st-petersburg/

https://www.fox13news.com/news/officials-target-undoing-racial-divides-created-by-florida-highways-interstates

All anyone has to do is drive through any large city to see the damage that placing a large highway or bridge does to a residential community.  It's easy for someone who comes from a flat earth state and maybe doesn't travel much to not have had a chance to see this phenomenon.  And once the highway gets built, no further efforts for beautifucation or livability are made.  Off the top of my head, I can think of neighborhoods in LA, NYC, San Fran. Orange County (and I know there's lots more) as cities that have some brutal transportation architechture that have separated stable neighborhoods into ugly, polluted pockets of the city.

20 minutes ago, Beerman said:

As do all racists.

Exactly correct.  Trump was a really good example of that. 

16 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That has to be a gut reaction.  I'm not knocking that.  We all believe and do things at times based on that.

But, over his decades of time in Washington, there isn't much evidence to support that, imo.

Just the typical evidence you would expect to follow a privileged old white man.  He did get to serve alongside the first black president and gave us our first black and female VP.

11 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That has to be a gut reaction.  I'm not knocking that.  We all believe and do things at times based on that.

But, over his decades of time in Washington, there isn't much evidence to support that, imo.

Fair enough, I know people judge a person by their past and use that to judge how they feel about them today, or don't let go of the past regardless of present actions and use that to point out "hypocrisy".  Fox News is very good at digging up the past.

 But I am talking about present tense actions and how I feel about them and I think that he believes in some of what he stands for and is sincere about wanting to improve race relations, which hasn't happened in my lifetime and I'm not hopeful he will.   

Sometimes I can get a sense when people are talking BS and they do this a lot when they are campaigning including Biden.  

Even McConnell whom I genuinely loathe I can acknowledge that he's sincere in his concerns when he said the other day "Many Americans including many Kentuckians depend on natural gas to heat their homes. They are staring down the barrel of skyrocketing bills this Winter. The Democrats’ reckless spending spree would go to war against affordable American energy at the worst possible time."   

Other times I know he's full of crap and doesn't care about us.