A&P 1: The Spring '05 Anatomy & Physiology Club

Fun2, BSN, RN · Mar 7, 2005

I've only been to our open lab one time, but may start going more. It depends on how I come along on learning the muscles.

I think I'm getting enough study time, so far. I spend about 1 1/2 hours every Tuesday, and every Thursday studying in the science resource room. Now, I will use that time to use the muscle models.

I pretty much know the bones, and bone markings. (Helps to have a little anatomically correct skeleton at home.) :specs:

I spent almost all day Friday, Saturday, and today studying the muscles, and reviewing the bones. My 7 yr old acted as my human model tonight. lol I pointed out the bones to her, and all the muscles that I do know. She said, "I want to be a nurse." :nurse:

We only have about 19 or 20 muscles we need to know origin, insertion and action on, so I've started studying those. So far, I only know 3. :chair:

Luckily our next test is not until mid-April. So, I think I'll be ok.

Time to hit the books again, for about another hour. :banghead:

einsteinsboi · Mar 7, 2005

I spent almost all day Friday, Saturday, and today studying the muscles, and reviewing the bones. My 7 yr old acted as my human model tonight. lol I pointed out the bones to her, and all the muscles that I do know. She said, "I want to be a nurse."
We only have about 19 or 20 muscles we need to know origin, insertion and action on, so I've started studying those. So far, I only know 3. :chair:
Luckily our next test is not until mid-April. So, I think I'll be ok.
Time to hit the books again, for about another hour.

:) Good to have a human model... lol. I use myself as a model. So when I read that a particular muscle has a particular action, I do the action and try to see if I can feel the muscle. Most times it works. I have a feeling that not only will i look funny during but I'll also be exhausted at the end of my muscle lab exam :chuckle .

We need to know 30 muscles, their origins, insertions and actions.

Fun2, BSN, RN · Mar 7, 2005

:) Good to have a human model... lol. I use myself as a model. So when I read that a particular muscle has a particular action, I do the action and try to see if I can feel the muscle. Most times it works. I have a feeling that not only will i look funny during but I'll also be exhausted at the end of my muscle lab exam :chuckle .
We need to know 30 muscles, their origins, insertions and actions.

How many muscles do you have to know the location of? Luckily we only have to know 80 (or there abouts).

I'd hate to have to learn all of them. :eek:

CAG12345 · Mar 7, 2005

:) Good to have a human model... lol. I use myself as a model. So when I read that a particular muscle has a particular action, I do the action and try to see if I can feel the muscle. Most times it works. I have a feeling that not only will i look funny during but I'll also be exhausted at the end of my muscle lab exam :chuckle .
We need to know 30 muscles, their origins, insertions and actions.

I did the whole trying to feel the muscle on my body routine, too, and it did help some, although it has its limitations (such as when differentiating between medial rotation and adduction, for example). It was more helpful than many techniques I tried. So go ahead, who cares if the world thinks you're posturing bizarrely. You'll know your muscles better than they will...

einsteinsboi · Mar 7, 2005

How many muscles do you have to know the location of? Luckily we only have to know 80 (or there abouts).
I'd hate to have to learn all of them.

For the lab exam we only need to know the 30. But I think that for the lecture exam we'll need to know more. I'm not sure yet because we haven't started on the Muscular System in lecture, we're still looking at the physiology of the skeletal muscles. I have to say this is really interesting stuff.

If I have to learn all of them.... I don't even know what I'll do. But hey, I know all 206 bones of the body and their landmarks so anything is possible :) .

einsteinsboi · Mar 7, 2005

I did the whole trying to feel the muscle on my body routine, too, and it did help some, although it has its limitations (such as when differentiating between medial rotation and adduction, for example). It was more helpful than many techniques I tried. So go ahead, who cares if the world thinks you're posturing bizarrely. You'll know your muscles better than they will...

I see what you mean. And then there's those cases where two muscles are contributing to one action, like adduction of the arm is both the pectoralis major and the lattisimus dorsi. But it does help some.

And yeah, you're right. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks as long as I get to know the stuff. Thanks for the encouragement :) .

CAG12345 · Mar 8, 2005

Got my second lecture midterm back and got an A (90%). I am really pleased. Got an A on the first one, too, and a very high B on the first lab exam (88.5) and am dropping the ghastly bone exam, so depending on how I did on the muscle lab exam (won't know about it for about another week I figure), I may still be sitting pretty (or at least anatomically hanging in there).

My instructor gave us a talk about how the class did really badly on the exam, especially the essays before she handed them back and I started sweating bullets, so I was very relieved to have done so well.

But there's no resting on my laurels, or should I say my "glutes," because today in lab we started Coelom and Viscera, and all that fun stuff such as membranes of a serous nature, and mesentery proper, etc, along with having to learn all the blood vessels, and the heart, and all the organs before the NEXT lab exam which is a week from Friday (and blood...) is going to be a new challenge.

I don't know if anyone else is doing this stuff yet, except Heatherp who goes to the same school I do. All you A&P folk are probably going more slowly through the systems because you're covering all the P, while we're doing just the A, because our school does the P in a different class.

Not to imply you're not busting your glutes as well...clearly you all are!

heatherp · Mar 8, 2005

Got my second lecture midterm back and got an A (90%). I am really pleased. Got an A on the first one, too, and a very high B on the first lab exam (88.5) and am dropping the ghastly bone exam, so depending on how I did on the muscle lab exam (won't know about it for about another week I figure), I may still be sitting pretty (or at least anatomically hanging in there).

Great job CAG! We got our muscle lab exam back yesterday, but not our midterm. We won't get our midterm back until Wed. at the earliest, maybe not until next week. I am so dreading that! I know I did horrible on the essays, and OK on the multiple choice and fill in. I did get a 94.5 on the lab exam though : )

I've got most of the Coelom/viscera lab part down, it's pretty easy once you get a handle on the fact that the serous membrane is all one membrane, that just changes it's name depeding on where it is. The Vicera is just memorizing what organs are Retroperitoneal or Intraperitoneal. It's the veins and arteries that are going to be trouble. Plus trying not to get behind on the lecture side. Fun, fun, fun!

BoonersmomRN · Mar 8, 2005

We had our second lab test today and I am extremely frustrated with it right now. Some of the "pointers" she used were extremely hard to tell what it was it was pointing at.

For Ex: On the sheeps brain supposedly it was pointing to the thalamus...but I thought the tip of it touched the intermediate mass of the thalamus..so I wrote intermediate mass....NOPE! Just the thalamus

#2 On one of the slides it asked what kind of gland the pointer was on...well when I looked in the pointer was on a sudoiferous gland ( eccrine). There WAS a sebaceous gland on a hair follice in the left side of the slide but the pointer was ON the eccrine gland....well everyone I spoke to said that when they looked their pointer was near the sebaceous gland...which means it was probably jostled from it's original position when I looked at it- because I was last. I know for a FACT it was NOT on the sebaceous gland...it was far over on the right side ON the sudoiferous gland.

#3. Her pointer on the cerebellum was NOT on the white " arbor vitae"...it was in the grey matter so when it said " name structure" I put cerebellum ( as did many others)...NOPE! She says it was pointing to the arbor vitae- and it sure as heck wasn't! I know that one like the back of my hand too!

So basically there were ones that just flat out didn't make sense ( markers) as to what she said they were pointing to. Oh yeah and another one asked what layer of meninges was around it.....well surrounding the pointer was the dark arachnoid mater...so i wrote arachnoid mater...she says it was pia mater- I was like huh?

So anyway I wound up with 6 wrong ( 2 my stupid fault) and I am very aggravated over this! Argh! But, I did score 5 extra credit so in the end run I should pull out an A or a high B just fine.

Just had to vent! I wanted to scream!

Fun2, BSN, RN · Mar 8, 2005

BoonersMom, sorry about your lab test. Hopefully, it won't set you back any. I know it all can be frusterating at times, especially when things have a way of being bumped, and moved.

Good luck, and keep studying your gluteals off! :)

CAG12345 · Mar 8, 2005

Great job CAG! We got our muscle lab exam back yesterday, but not our midterm. We won't get our midterm back until Wed. at the earliest, maybe not until next week. I am so dreading that! I know I did horrible on the essays, and OK on the multiple choice and fill in. I did get a 94.5 on the lab exam though : )
I've got most of the Coelom/viscera lab part down, it's pretty easy once you get a handle on the fact that the serous membrane is all one membrane, that just changes it's name depeding on where it is. The Vicera is just memorizing what organs are Retroperitoneal or Intraperitoneal. It's the veins and arteries that are going to be trouble. Plus trying not to get behind on the lecture side. Fun, fun, fun!

Heatherp,

94.5%? That totally rocks! That's the highest lab exam grade I have heard of, period. You are awesome. You probably did alot better on the lecture midterm than you think, too.

Thanks for the encouragement on "see-loam" and viscera. There was alot of noise and chaos in lab yesterday, so I didn't get as far along as I wanted to, but it does sound like it shouldn't be too bad organizing it like you say. And, I agree, it's id'ng all the blood vessels which will be really tricky. I spent some time on the heart models and also studying the histology of the vessels and the blood cells in the book (this latter at home).

Hope you get your lecture exam back tomorrow and hope we get our lab exams back tomorrow (but I doubt we will get our lab exams back tomorrow from what Danielle said about not having started them yesterday).

Did you hear about the extra credit (going to hear the physiology lectures by the auditioning professors?). I so need that extra credit. I cannot wait.

BoonersmomRN · Mar 8, 2005

Well some good news.. I wrote to my professor concerning some of my thoughts and concerns about the pointers...plus the fact that I was 100% positive the slide had shifted when I saw it..and she wrote back saying that she had a lot of the same complaints today and that the slide WAS shifted ( she checked at the end of class) and so therefore she was going to give me credit for that one and also the arbor vitae one ( seems a lot complained about that one)..so that brings it up to 4 wrong + my extra credit she said I got a 92%. I'm very happy with that.