"But nurses are in demand, how can it be hard to get into nursing school"? - page 2
Anyone else getting this response from out-of-the-know relatives/co-workers/neighbors? I feel like they think I'm lying when I say the program I applied to has almost 450 applications for 25 spots.... Read More
Mar 5, '07just smile and consider the source, hopefully you will land a spot in a good accredited school
about the nurses shortage i
if they think it is bad now just wait about 10 or 15 when a large number of baby boomer nurses cross the aisle from giving care to needing care, there will probably not be a significant increase in physical facilities,classrooms, lab etc so where will the increase in nurses come from
Mar 5, '07I met an RN the other day - just finishing up her BSN bridge at the school I'm applying to - who attended nursing school immediately out of high school, was 17 when she started, and 19 at graduation. She actually asked me essentially that same question, and was very surprised that the school she is attending requires such a high GPA (3.7 ish for upper division, 3.4 for 2nd degree) for acceptance. Now, she takes her bridge classes online and doesn't need to be familiar with USF, but she was also surprised that we have prereqs now, because she didn't in 1981. She works in HIV/AIDS research, and maybe doesn't come in contact with a lot of students...it was weird to me that she was so unfamiliar with the current sprocess.
Mar 5, '07I am not a big proponent of government infringing on education. However, realistically, you must pay more in order to entice MSN and doctorate level candidates. I would like to teach clinicals but I already work 55-60 plus hours per week and can't take on another job. And...I still owe >25k in student loans and I just can't take a pay cut.
Mar 5, '07I always give the short answer, "A nursing shortage means fewer nurses teaching." So far everyone has comprehended that on the first try.
Mar 5, '07Quote from traumaRUsAnd that's another part of the problem! Why would anyone want to go to school another 2-4 years to become a teacher to make the same amount of money (or less) than a practicing nurse? I've seen a few nursing instructor salaries & they are just ridiculously low.I would like to teach clinicals but I already work 55-60 plus hours per week and can't take on another job. And...I still owe >25k in student loans and I just can't take a pay cut.
Mar 5, '07They just did a News story on our local news about that. It is said to be the most in demand job by 2015. They said the shortage would be over 340,000 and there are over 100,000 students that get denied each year because of lack of instructors.
Mar 6, '07Quote from catzy5Yeah, if one more person says "A C is a degree" I'm gonna lose it! A C doesn't even get you in the running to have a chance for a degree!the "family, friends" who tell me I am adding the pressure to myself because I "feel" I have to get A's <eye roll>. I repeatedly explain over and over that I don't "Feel" I have to get A's I HAVE to get A's for the program I am applying too, I am not some over achieving psycho killing myself for A's I just want to get into the program and its how they choose, and there are 300+ other people trying to do the samething for 12 spots so ya I am giving myself too much pressure.
oh don't even get me started hehehee.
Mar 6, '07I'm running into the same problem. My family is full of nurses and doctors, though almost all are retired. Everytime I start talking about getting worried about not getting in, they cut me off and say, "Nonsense! How can you be worried about not getting in?"
God bless 'em, they just don't understand it isn't like it was 40 years ago. You don't just show up at the school and sign up.
Mar 6, '07seasoned nurses at my hospital don't even understand the fierce competition to get into school nowadays.
I get the "when are you going to finish" question all the time. I have been taking pre-req's (part-time) since Fall 2003. Hopefully, I will be in a transitional program in May. A light at the end of the tunnel- hope it's not a train
Considering a RN-BSN after this
Mar 6, '07For the OP, get a thick skin, because these will be the same folks who will have NO CLUE about what you're doing once you're in school...it is not the same as taking a history or English course, or even an A & P class...you won't find a lot of understanding except among classmates and folks on these boards!! It's almost like an "inside joke" where you have to be there...:roll
I had a pretty intense test last week and my husband was rolling his eyes at the amount of studying and stressing I was doing over the weekend....he said, "You always get good grades"...but he wasn't connecting the dots -- perhaps there is some correlation between the amount of studying I do AND the fact that I get decent grades? It's not a gimme.....
Hang in there and don't let those that can't understand get to you....just enjoy the ride!!
Mar 6, '07People have no idea how hard it is to get into nusring school. I wasn't even prepared for just how competitive it is and I am the one applying. lol It gives you a newfound respect for the nursing profession and all the education and expertise they have. I don't think they get the respect they deserve.
One school has 850 applicants for 40 spots and they take their own first. It's beyond a long shot. Thankfully I am lucky enough to have another school that goes by a waiting list.
Mar 7, '07On the flip side, how can finding Nursing instructors be any different from finding Chemistry and Physics professors at schools? I have never heard of a school that had to cut back on their Chemistry majors because they couldn't find professors that were willing to work for less money than they would make out in the field.
My Chemistry Professor is a PhD and a Chemical Engineer by trade. The President of our college is the same.
The same goes for instructors of computer courses. I have never heard of a college cutting back those programs either.
I can imagine that there are enough instructors that might be disabled, just tired of working in a hospital, or cannot keep up with the physical demands of bedside nursing, etc, that can teach at a college level where it doesn't require scaling back of the program. I have met so many instructors over the years that left their fields of service to teach...for the love of teaching...can Nursing be so different?
I mean, don't get me wrong. I am sort of glad of the shortage, because in the end, that keeps us ALL employed and working at decent salaries. But I do think that the shortage is an artificial one.
Mar 7, '07Quote from Hopefull2009I'm just guessing, but I think it's because there aren't a flood of people rushing out to become chemists & physicists...it's like this repeating pattern; everybody wants to be a nurse because we're in such demand, this creates a shortage of instructors because there just aren't enough to accommodate all the students, the demand keeps getting higher because of wait-lists, with the growing demand, even more people want to be nurses, creating even less instructors per student, etc. ,etcOn the flip side, how can finding Nursing instructors be any different from finding Chemistry and Physics professors at schools? I have never heard of a school that had to cut back on their Chemistry majors because they couldn't find professors that were willing to work for less money than they would make out in the field.