The use of such rhetoric, opponents of the new laws argue, underscores a nationwide push by conservatives to make education a political wedge issue by equating certain teaching materials and educators with Mediaography and even pedophilia. This latest trend is another volley in the country’s ongoing culture wars, during which conservative lawmakers also have opposed the teaching of “critical race theory” and proposed bills requiring schools to post all course materials online so parents can review them.
I think this is just another example of conservative Americans getting agitated by right wing rhetoric and propaganda.
Here's a video compilation and represention of how emotional and aggressive these agitated people are.
Here is a list of books under fire from conservatives. Does anyone know of any other compilation of those titles?
This thread is about groups of angry conservative parents shouting at school board meetings, demanding that books be removed...
Your examples here is one meeting in Dearborn, (supported by a heavily edited video produced by TYK), one guy who got in a heated discussion in the parking lot, and a list supplied by a special interest group of a few dozen books that a few school districts are or were reviewing.
Any evidence that these "angry parents" are a widespread phenomenon? Or, that they are only conservative? Much like voter fraud isn't really a concern because it's not widespread, this seems like a similar problem.
Taking the "Blankets" book as an example, I know my Trump-hating, liberal parents would have a huge problem with that book being in the school library.
On 11/23/2022 at 10:39 PM, toomuchbaloney said:
largely because of excerpts taken out of context and presented to them as examples of sinister intentions on the part of the education professionals.
I have yet to see examples of these excerpts. At least the ones where it seems unreasonable that children shouldn't have access to in school.
Do you have any actual examples? Or, is it just something you're parroting from, well, who knows where?
While we discuss the conservative concern that schools are sexualizing and grooming our children I thought I'd expand our discussion to include the sexual abuse of children in churches.
Some are bothered when we get off topic. I'd suggest a new thread.
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6 minutes ago, Beerman said:
Back to the topic of the thread.
Your examples here is one meeting in Dearborn, (supported by a heavily edited video produced by TYK), one guy who got in a heated discussion in the parking lot, and a list supplied by a special interest group of a few dozen books that a few school districts are or were reviewing.
Any evidence that these "angry parents" are a widespread phenomenon? Or, that they are only conservative? Much like voter fraud isn't really a concern because it's not widespread, this seems like a similar problem.
Taking the "Blankets" book as an example, I know my Trump-hating, liberal parents would have a huge problem with that book being in the school library.
I have yet to see examples of these excerpts. At least the ones where it seems unreasonable that children shouldn't have access to in school.
Do you have any actual examples? Or, is it just something you're parroting from, well, who knows where?
Don't the following comments include links that discuss the wider conservative phenomenon around protesting books?
5 minutes ago, Beerman said:
Some are bothered when we get off topic. I'd suggest a new thread.
Feel free to start a new thread about the church and sexual abuse of children.
While we discuss the conservative concern that schools are sexualizing and grooming our children I thought I'd expand our discussion to include the sexual abuse of children in churches.
Maryland Finds That for Hundreds of Clergy Abuse Victims, ‘No Parish Was Safe’ https://nyti.ms/3TXVLEk
Maybe we should be looking for pedophiles in pews rather than gay bars or school libraries.
I feel confident in saying that most people, on whatever side of the book issue they are on, believe that anyone who sexually abuses a child, should be arrested and punished to the full extent of the law.
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19 minutes ago, Beerman said:
I feel confident in saying that most people, on whatever side of the book issue they are on, believe that anyone who sexually abuses a child, should be arrested and punished to the full extent of the law.
Not much else to say, really.
But, nice job getting your cheap shot in.
What specifically was the "cheap shot"? Don't you find it curious that Americans who are concerned about sexual exploitation of children in schools aren't similarly focused on the well known sexual abuse and long term cover-ups in the Christian and Catholic churches?
You said that parents are angry over books based "largely because of excerpts taken out of context and presented to them as examples of sinister intentions on the part of the education professionals."
I asked for, and am still waiting for examples.
15 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
You were the member who suggested the comment was off topic and could generate a new topic...now you don't care...shrugs
No. I do care. You said we should discuss, and I gave my thoughts.
Anyway, this was fun for a bit. But, you're boring me again. I'm going back to my old policy of just enjoying your posts for what they are...fun and amusement and not worthy of serious discussion.
Some prople are so dizzolved in their MAGAphobia that they must make up a word to defame a group of people due to their feelings of anything Trump. Mostly their fear of re-election.so they use a fake word with no direct definition do that they may day, "only magaphiles vote Republican". "Don't be a magaphile or you will vote to the demise of our democracy....". Or other silly nonsense.
You mean conservatives like Matt Gaetz and his sleezy friend Joel Greenberg? Did you see any behaviors among the MAGAphiles on 1/6 to lead us to believe that the storm of DC was related to conserving Democracy?
I think you're intelligent enough to understand what the poster is talking about.
I suppose if you want to say reading a novel in which the character ejaculates is Mediaographic. That's your prerogative and I'll understand.
But I agree with Subee. Sex sells and teens and children are bombarded with it. It can be simple as huge stars like Rhiana, Beyonce, Ariana Grande wearing bikini tops and bras when they perform. And superstar Lizzo doing the same. Or it can be more blatant as a song about the singer's wet lady parts making it to #1. Ariana sings about the sexual position 69 in the song 34 + 35. DeAngelo had a big hit video in which he was shirtless and appeared to be getting oral sex and having an orgasm.
Maybe a line is crossed when penetrative sex, masturbation or oral sex is written about and God forbid it be same sex. Again I've said I think high schoolers can handle it, and surveys show many of them are having sex anyway and it's a part of their life, if it's a part of a greater story. I get that if it's a graphic novel and actually shows it, people might be bothered and call it Mediaographic. But getting bent out of shape about a character in a book having an orgasm and sex? Our puritanical side is showing. Meh
And, I haven't seen any real evidence that " Media" is being stocked in libraries accessed by grade and intermediate school students, only innuendo.
10 hours ago, Weetywill said:
How can you accuse someone of assuming when you assume sooo much. Political affiliation, the media they watch.
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43 minutes ago, Beerman said:
Yes, that's correct.
I guess we need to review.
You said that parents are angry over books based "largely because of excerpts taken out of context and presented to them as examples of sinister intentions on the part of the education professionals."
I asked for, and am still waiting for examples.
No. I do care. You said we should discuss, and I gave my thoughts.
Anyway, this was fun for a bit. But, you're boring me again. I'm going back to my old policy of just enjoying your posts for what they are...fun and amusement and not worthy of serious discussion.
Have at it.
You are asking me to provide excerpts when WW already provided some of the concerning excerpts? Did you discuss those excerpts at that time? That seems odd...
Yes, it has been apparent that you aren't really engaging in serious discussion.
While we discuss the conservative concern that schools are sexualizing and grooming our children I thought I'd expand our discussion to include the sexual abuse of children in churches.
Maryland Finds That for Hundreds of Clergy Abuse Victims, ‘No Parish Was Safe’ https://nyti.ms/3TXVLEk
Maybe we should be looking for pedophiles in pews rather than gay bars or school libraries.
Deflection.
Everyone knows that child sexual abuse happens. Unfortunately everywhere. School church etc.
I find protecting children is more successful when ee discuss how to prevent it, not throw around who did what and focus on where it happened.
This is an obvious deflection and not the topic of the thread. Another attempt to try and cast conservatives in a bad light, as conservatives are considered mostly Christian.
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Back to the topic of the thread.
Your examples here is one meeting in Dearborn, (supported by a heavily edited video produced by TYK), one guy who got in a heated discussion in the parking lot, and a list supplied by a special interest group of a few dozen books that a few school districts are or were reviewing.
Any evidence that these "angry parents" are a widespread phenomenon? Or, that they are only conservative? Much like voter fraud isn't really a concern because it's not widespread, this seems like a similar problem.
Taking the "Blankets" book as an example, I know my Trump-hating, liberal parents would have a huge problem with that book being in the school library.
I have yet to see examples of these excerpts. At least the ones where it seems unreasonable that children shouldn't have access to in school.
Do you have any actual examples? Or, is it just something you're parroting from, well, who knows where?