Pornography in schools. Is this "grooming" our children as some angry parents believe?

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https://apnews.com/article/education-gender-identity-adf10ff5f169fae9c9af4d08a7b0c2bc

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The use of such rhetoric, opponents of the new laws argue, underscores a nationwide push by conservatives to make education a political wedge issue by equating certain teaching materials and educators with Mediaography and even pedophilia. This latest trend is another volley in the country’s ongoing culture wars, during which conservative lawmakers also have opposed the teaching of “critical race theory” and proposed bills requiring schools to post all course materials online so parents can review them.

I think this is just another example of conservative Americans getting agitated by right wing rhetoric and propaganda. 

Here's a video compilation and represention of how emotional and aggressive these agitated people are. 

Here is a list of books under fire from conservatives. Does anyone know of any other compilation of those titles?

 https://docs.Google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1hTs_PB7KuTMBtNMESFEGuK-0abzhNxVv4tgpI5-iKe8/htmlview

9 hours ago, subee said:

This article doesn't mention the age group of the students that are exposed to what the parent purports to be "Mediaographic."  Are we talking of kids younger than high school?  It's silly to try to ban books from high schoolers; just makes them curious what all the fuss is about.  And most of can agree that high schoolers know waaaaaay much more than we adults can imagine! Sex is a huge commercial commodity in our society.  People love a sexy half-time show big football games.  But I bet those some people who watch those are some of the same complaining about "obscene" books in high school libraries.  How hypocritical.

You've seen an ejaculation scene in a halftime show?  You might be watching the wrong channel.

13 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

There's a new conservative grievance in AN... it's all about a word that has an uncomfortable connotation.  Oddly... the uncomfortable connotation is associated with the word MAGA... that political movement that talks about civil war and tried to overthrow our government 010621... and we didn't coin that.  The conservatives who consume right wing extremist content are so fixated oh pedophilia that they cannot dissociate that suffix from that right wing messaging. That same messaging has conservative parents angry about books that they haven't read... it's all about sex and fears of pedophilia, a pattern of behavior and interest in right wing social wars. 

Did you know that pedophilia messaging is common in right wing authoritarian politics? https://ips-dc.org/the-global-right-wings-bizarre-obsession-with-pedophilia/

Yeah. Conservatives really hate pedophilia.

Some prople are so dizzolved in their MAGAphobia that they must make up a word to defame a group of people due to their feelings of anything Trump. Mostly their fear of re-election.so they use a fake word with no direct definition do that they may day, "only magaphiles vote Republican". "Don't be a magaphile or you will vote to the demise of our democracy....". Or other silly nonsense. 

11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Yes... only the book that the parent was shown by his daughter was removed with any permanence.  It's kind of funny how you assume that I visit that website and then feel free to share that assumption as some sort of a commentary on me. 

Maybe you also want to disagree with my thinking and comment about what transpired? Do you think that one parent inspired the review of the graphic novels in that school? 

How can you accuse someone of assuming when you assume sooo much. Political affiliation, the media they watch. 

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5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Your original comment was about the guy getting books removed and reviewed.  The article you linked to in the same post was about him being banned from the school, and said nothing of the books being removed.

I simply found a article that seemed to be what you were speaking of that happened to be published the day before.  Chare found another one.  Seeing how uou have yet to share your source for the story, maybe you should have thanked us for helping you inform others.

It's unclear why you seem so agitated at the suggestion that you read a VICE article.  It is ironic considering how often you babble on about how my opinions are simply a result of your perception of media sources you believe I use. 

 

Your opinions of which sources I may or may not have used is not the subject of the thread. Online harassment seems to come easily to you as you continually imply that I'm lying.  This is the last time that I will make the same denial and ask that you comment on the topic and not on me. 

It's up to you as to whether you will continue to flog that dead horse. 

 

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9 hours ago, Beerman said:

You've seen an ejaculation scene in a halftime show?  You might be watching the wrong channel.

I think you're intelligent enough to understand what the poster is talking about.

I suppose if you want to say reading a novel in which the character ejaculates is Mediaographic.  That's your prerogative and I'll understand.

But I agree with Subee.  Sex sells and teens and children are bombarded with it.  It can be simple as huge stars like Rhiana, Beyonce, Ariana Grande wearing bikini tops and bras when they perform.  And superstar Lizzo doing the same.  Or it can be more blatant as a song about the singer's wet lady parts making it to #1.  Ariana sings about the sexual position 69 in the song 34 + 35. DeAngelo had a big hit video in which he was shirtless and appeared to be getting oral sex and having an orgasm.  

Maybe a line is crossed when penetrative sex, masturbation or oral sex is written about and God forbid it be same sex.  Again I've said I think high schoolers can handle it, and surveys show many of them are having sex anyway and it's a part of their life, if it's a part of a greater story.  I get that if it's a graphic novel and actually shows it, people might be bothered and call it Mediaographic.  But getting bent out of shape about a character in a book having an orgasm and sex? Our puritanical side is showing.  Meh  

 

2 hours ago, Tweety said:

I think you're intelligent enough to understand what the poster is talking about.

I suppose if you want to say reading a novel in which the character ejaculates is Mediaographic.  That's your prerogative and I'll understand.

But I agree with Subee.  Sex sells and teens and children are bombarded with it.  It can be simple as huge stars like Rhiana, Beyonce, Ariana Grande wearing bikini tops and bras when they perform.  And superstar Lizzo doing the same.  Or it can be more blatant as a song about the singer's wet lady parts making it to #1.  Ariana sings about the sexual position 69 in the song 34 + 35. DeAngelo had a big hit video in which he was shirtless and appeared to be getting oral sex and having an orgasm.  

Maybe a line is crossed when penetrative sex, masturbation or oral sex is written about and God forbid it be same sex.  Again I've said I think high schoolers can handle it, and surveys show many of them are having sex anyway and it's a part of their life, if it's a part of a greater story.  I get that if it's a graphic novel and actually shows it, people might be bothered and call it Mediaographic.  But getting bent out of shape about a character in a book having an orgasm and sex? Our puritanical side is showing.  Meh  

 

Exactly! Graphic sex is everywhere. This is why children and in my opinion teens as well do not need it at school. School is a place to learn.  They can see sex everywhere else. 

And as usual, with all due respect, graphic depecting what was in that book is Mediaography and should not be in any school. (Not saying you think it should). 

6 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Your opinions of which sources I may or may not have used is not the subject of the thread. Online harassment seems to come easily to you as you continually imply that I'm lying.  This is the last time that I will make the same denial and ask that you comment on the topic and not on me. 

It's up to you as to whether you will continue to flog that dead horse. 

 

Interesting. It seems your opinion/assumption of people's news sources is written all over these threads. 

Harassment? Are you feeling like a victim? 

20 hours ago, chare said:

His daughter was 14 years old when she found a graphic novel in the school library and showed it to her father, Mr. Reiland.  Initially school officials were less than receptive, but after showing the book to the assistant superintendent the book was pulled for review.  
He attended a school board meeting on 10 October where he, along with others spoke in favor of the board developing aa policy to review “objectionable” books.   After the board meeting he engaged one of the members in a verbal altercation, for which he was subsequently banned from all school district property.
The Owasso Public Schools’ Board of Education subsequently amended its book selection and review practices and now require every graphic novel be reviewed by at least 3 faculty members.

Interestingly enough, none of the articles I was able to find mentioned Mr. Reiland being responsible for "getting the school  to remove and review a few thousand graphic novels because of sexual images."

Owasso parent banned from school grounds after asking for Mediaographic book to be removed


Owasso school board amends book selection policies; district had pulled all graphic novels for review

I think the idea of the member who posted the source, did so because it says he got banned from the  school committee because of his behavior.  For his bad 'conservative behavior'. As far as I read, it doest even say his political affiliation. 

The fact that a book with graphic illustrations of urination and ejaculating into mouths, found in a school, is not of concern. Just the parent's behavior was. 

On 11/23/2022 at 4:21 AM, toomuchbaloney said:

The books can be removed from the parents home by the parent.  The parent can inspect the child's book bag or backpack.  Why can't other kids read them because Billy's mom doesn't let Billy read them?  Billy's mom should control Billy's book reading...not the other kids too...unless there is a majority consensus that the books are inappropriate for the school.  The voices that want books removed from schools are generally not representing a majority opinion in the communities. 

Well, Billy's mom, John's mom and Lisa's mom or any mom should not allow children to read Mediaography ever. 

There should never be a consensus to allow graphic depiction of ejaculation Mediaography in a school. Nor should any parents allow their children to view it. I would like to believe that most parents would agree, regardless of political affiliation. 

Too bad your post didn't say how that book even got into the school? I guess the content, how it got there wasn't the point. Just that the parent acted badly (probably a conservative, even a magaphile). That was why you posted that. 

 

16 minutes ago, Weetywill said:

Too bad your post didn't say how that book even got into the school? 

That's a great question, isn't it?  Someone, or a group, inexplicably decided that book should be accessible to young teenagers.   I would love to know the thought process behind that.

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While we discuss the conservative concern that schools are sexualizing and grooming our children I thought I'd expand our discussion to include the sexual abuse of children in churches.  

Maryland Finds That for Hundreds of Clergy Abuse Victims, ‘No Parish Was Safe’ https://nyti.ms/3TXVLEk

Maybe we should be looking for pedophiles in pews rather than gay bars or school libraries. 

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8 minutes ago, Beerman said:

That's a great question, isn't it?  Someone, or a group, inexplicably decided that book should be accessible to young teenagers.   I would love to know the thought process behind that.

Will you share what you find here when you investigate that thought process?

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