The use of such rhetoric, opponents of the new laws argue, underscores a nationwide push by conservatives to make education a political wedge issue by equating certain teaching materials and educators with Mediaography and even pedophilia. This latest trend is another volley in the country’s ongoing culture wars, during which conservative lawmakers also have opposed the teaching of “critical race theory” and proposed bills requiring schools to post all course materials online so parents can review them.
I think this is just another example of conservative Americans getting agitated by right wing rhetoric and propaganda.
Here's a video compilation and represention of how emotional and aggressive these agitated people are.
Here is a list of books under fire from conservatives. Does anyone know of any other compilation of those titles?
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9 hours ago, Weetywill said:
I agree with everything you just wrote. It is easy to find these books in libraries or in book stores. The consenting parents can allow their children to read the material that way.
Parents are not asking these books be removed from society completely, just not in schools where children are.
The books can be removed from the parents home by the parent. The parent can inspect the child's book bag or backpack. Why can't other kids read them because Billy's mom doesn't let Billy read them? Billy's mom should control Billy's book reading...not the other kids too...unless there is a majority consensus that the books are inappropriate for the school. The voices that want books removed from schools are generally not representing a majority opinion in the communities.
Please quote my language that called you a victim.
Agitation can be communicated using typed words only.
Do you want to talk about angry parents at school board meetings or why conservatives are worried about books?
Agreed. And it’s not just his emo responses behind typed words but also the way he deflects, and as Heron said, use of straw man tactics, as debaters say gish gallop. WW you DO do this.
Those excerpts have been discussed in one of these threads before.
That seems like a standard that is very lopsided. What age group were those books available to?... that makes a difference. Why not flag these books for librarian/parent discussion rather than remove them? Censorship isn't the answer, communication is the answer.
Kids have been reading books that include rape and murder and cheating and lying for generations, are they being "groomed"?
Isn't having a parent and school officials discuss this with eachother what we are talking about? Any ol'parent can't just ban a book on their own. Or is the topic exclusive to how some parents who may or not be conservative acting badly and their behavior is upsetting to you?
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4 hours ago, Weetywill said:
Isn't having a parent and school officials discuss this with eachother what we are talking about? Any ol'parent can't just ban a book on their own. Or is the topic exclusive to how some parents who may or not be conservative acting badly and their behavior is upsetting to you?
This thread is about groups of angry conservative parents shouting at school board meetings, demanding that books be removed... largely because of excerpts taken out of context and presented to them as examples of sinister intentions on the part of the education professionals. This is a phenomenon that has been gaining momentum among conservatives for more than a year. Maybe you aren't aware that so many angry parents have been shouting about books for the past couple years... all across the nation. Do you wonder where in their shared media these people are being told that children are being groomed by homosexual literature? Do those conservative parents feel like they are part of a righteous social movement? That sense of belonging is one of the things that draws people to online conspiracy theories and causes them to take action. Pedophilia is one of the claims used to draw conservatives into the fold and lead them in a specific ideological direction...a culture war based (again) in falsehoods and fears. Have you ever read much about this? I have.
This is a social phenomenon worth talking about, IMV. You brought it up in initially but now you seem to be uncomfortable somehow with the discussion. Shrugs
This thread is about groups of angry conservative parents shouting at school board meetings, demanding that books be removed... largely because of excerpts taken out of context and presented to them as examples of sinister intentions on the part of the education professionals. This is a phenomenon that has been gaining momentum among conservatives for more than a year. Maybe you aren't aware that so many angry parents have been shouting about books for the past couple years... all across the nation. Do you wonder where in their shared media these people are being told that children are being groomed by homosexual literature? Do those conservative parents feel like they are part of a righteous social movement? That sense of belonging is one of the things that draws people to online conspiracy theories and causes them to take action. Pedophilia is one of the claims used to draw conservatives into the fold and lead them in a specific ideological direction...a culture war based (again) in falsehoods and fears. Have you ever read much about this? I have.
This is a social phenomenon worth talking about, IMV. You brought it up in initially but now you seem to be uncomfortable somehow with the discussion. Shrugs
Yes. You have read about it. However I would suspect you only read what caters to your MAGAphobia, and preMAGA occupation with the Republican party and destain for it. Not only have I read about it , I have been a part of a school committee meeting. Where made up words and ridiculous pedophilia labels were not a part of it. As everyone came to have a meaningful discussion.
I tried to have a meaningful discussion with you however your constant repetitive, often exact same phrases told me that you are not interested in that. Also your use of made up hyperbolic word while adhering to strict accuracy of other words, also solidified my beliefs that you have to no intention of a discussion.
I've had several meaningful conversations with people on this forum because they are interested in that. IMO, you are not.
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5 hours ago, Weetywill said:
Yes. You have read about it. However I would suspect you only read what caters to your MAGAphobia, and preMAGA occupation with the Republican party and destain for it. Not only have I read about it , I have been a part of a school committee meeting. Where made up words and ridiculous pedophilia labels were not a part of it. As everyone came to have a meaningful discussion.
I tried to have a meaningful discussion with you however your constant repetitive, often exact same phrases told me that you are not interested in that. Also your use of made up hyperbolic word while adhering to strict accuracy of other words, also solidified my beliefs that you have to no intention of a discussion.
I've had several meaningful conversations with people on this forum because they are interested in that. IMO, you are not.
So here we are.....
You are correct... this is a waste of time trying to discuss any topic with you now that you are so triggered by the word MAGAphile that you cannot move on and keep trying to make the thread about your feelings about the word, my use of the word, and your discomfort which won't allow you to discuss the actual topic.
It's alright, you didn't real bring much to the conversation beyond angst and right wing rhetoric.
You are correct... this is a waste of time trying to discuss any topic with you now that you are so triggered by the word MAGAphile that you cannot move on and keep trying to make the thread about your feelings about the word, my use of the word, and your discomfort which won't allow you to discuss the actual topic.
It's alright, you didn't real bring much to the conversation beyond angst and right wing rhetoric.
"Right wing rhetoric"? Please do explain what rhetoric I have used? It seems your MAGAphobia has prevented you from effectively communicate some good points and ideas to the very people in which you take an issue with their beliefs and political affiliation. Which is a shame because you do have some good points to consider.
Again with the feelings or discomfort. I have no feelings or discomfort from a made up word.
You are correct... this is a waste of time trying to discuss any topic with you now that you are so triggered by the word MAGAphile that you cannot move on and keep trying to make the thread about your feelings about the word, my use of the word, and your discomfort which won't allow you to discuss the actual topic.
It's alright, you didn't real bring much to the conversation beyond angst and right wing rhetoric.
The reason for pre-occupation for the MAGAphiles is that they are almost exclusively the ones yelling or worst at demonstrations in school board meetings. People wanted to ban Huck Finn for being racist because they entirely missed the point that Twain was making against slavery, etc. However, I can't find any episodes of violent parents protesting this particular book. It's the violence of the right that makes this kind of censorship different. It easy to become triggered by the work MAGA because it's precepts have caused so much unnecessary disruption in our society. We are living Lord of the Flies. It might be a hard book for you.
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8 minutes ago, subee said:
The reason for pre-occupation for the MAGAphiles is that they are almost exclusively the ones yelling or worst at demonstrations in school board meetings. People wanted to ban Huck Finn for being racist because they entirely missed the point that Twain was making against slavery, etc. However, I can't find any episodes of violent parents protesting this particular book. It's the violence of the right that makes this kind of censorship different. It easy to become triggered by the work MAGA because it's precepts have caused so much unnecessary disruption in our society. We are living Lord of the Flies. It might be a hard book for you.
There's a new conservative grievance in AN... it's all about a word that has an uncomfortable connotation. Oddly... the uncomfortable connotation is associated with the word MAGA... that political movement that talks about civil war and tried to overthrow our government 010621... and we didn't coin that. The conservatives who consume right wing extremist content are so fixated oh pedophilia that they cannot dissociate that suffix from that right wing messaging. That same messaging has conservative parents angry about books that they haven't read... it's all about sex and fears of pedophilia, a pattern of behavior and interest in right wing social wars.
There's a new conservative grievance in AN... it's all about a word that has an uncomfortable connotation. Oddly... the uncomfortable connotation is associated with the word MAGA... that political movement that talks about civil war and tried to overthrow our government 010621... and we didn't coin that. The conservatives who consume right wing extremist content are so fixated oh pedophilia that they cannot dissociate that suffix from that right wing messaging. That same messaging has conservative parents angry about books that they haven't read... it's all about sex and fears of pedophilia, a pattern of behavior and interest in right wing social wars.
The pedophilia label is the most offensive label these defectives could pluck out of the air and that's why they chose it. The command probably came straight from Q or whatever the savior du jour is. Insinuating that Hilary Clinton was associated with a pedophilia ring changed the tenor of everything that followed. There seems, IMHO, to be a link between mental defectiveness and MAGAism...hence elevating the conversation of pedophilia to a political pre-occupation. Insinuating children into the political arena is something I find to be particularly disturbing.
This article doesn't mention the age group of the students that are exposed to what the parent purports to be "Mediaographic." Are we talking of kids younger than high school? It's silly to try to ban books from high schoolers; just makes them curious what all the fuss is about. And most of can agree that high schoolers know waaaaaay much more than we adults can imagine! Sex is a huge commercial commodity in our society. People love a sexy half-time show big football games. But I bet those some people who watch those are some of the same complaining about "obscene" books in high school libraries. How hypocritical.
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The books can be removed from the parents home by the parent. The parent can inspect the child's book bag or backpack. Why can't other kids read them because Billy's mom doesn't let Billy read them? Billy's mom should control Billy's book reading...not the other kids too...unless there is a majority consensus that the books are inappropriate for the school. The voices that want books removed from schools are generally not representing a majority opinion in the communities.