The use of such rhetoric, opponents of the new laws argue, underscores a nationwide push by conservatives to make education a political wedge issue by equating certain teaching materials and educators with Mediaography and even pedophilia. This latest trend is another volley in the country’s ongoing culture wars, during which conservative lawmakers also have opposed the teaching of “critical race theory” and proposed bills requiring schools to post all course materials online so parents can review them.
I think this is just another example of conservative Americans getting agitated by right wing rhetoric and propaganda.
Here's a video compilation and represention of how emotional and aggressive these agitated people are.
Here is a list of books under fire from conservatives. Does anyone know of any other compilation of those titles?
I don't know your heart but believe you when you say there is no space for hate in your life. I appreciate that because order for me to function in the world and get over some of the trauma in my life growing up in the 70's as a bullied kid, and the 80's in a world of homophobia where I was fired from a job for being gay, I had to leave hate out of the equation. I don't believe that forgiveness is necessary but hate is not either.
In 2022, I still have to do that. I will say that somethings in the MAGA-world (if I may) do make my blood boil and my soul insulted with a loathing I really do have to work through. So sometimes in the process it may sound hateful.
If one hates them, they are taking up way to much space in one's psyche. I kind of feel sorry for them since they probably have been demoralized by being nickle and dimed by people who live opulently. But I feel your "blood boiling" component because we all have information if we are curious enough to go look for it and so much of the population is incurious enough not to be skeptical. They don't want to be aggrieved, miserable and angry but it's the only behavior they have learned. They're just limited.
No... you are helping me out by providing some clarity for his jumbled thoughts... including citations. That older opinion piece helped me understand the conservative POV that WW seems to discuss issues from. I really enjoyed the comparisons...like comparing the Tea Party to Occupy Wall Street...of course we all know by now that the Tea Party was funded by KOCH money (Americans for Prosperity) and that caucus was almost entirely absorbed into the national Republican party. What happened to the folks from Occupy Wall Street? Did those protests against wage and wealth inequality protests even last 2 months? That was an instructive comparison while considering what "liberal hypocrisy and double standards" might mean in to a conservative in 2022.
How do you think it relates to parents and community members, angry about books in schools?
Let me clarify more. I am a she/her, thanks for misgendering me.
14 hours ago, Tweety said:
Surely, you've heard of "liberal hypocrisy and double standards".
"Liberal hypocrisy and double (or dual) standards" is widely reported in the conservative press. I think that one can make a statement that they feel this exists without having to provide evidence. It's a broad statement that I think can stand on its own. But it was lame in this conversation and a deflection.
The one I saw most often used here was the "you complain about the 'insurrection' but turn an eye to the violence of BLM protests".
Another one was democrat politicians caught not wearing a mask during the pandemic, or Pelosi getting a haircut in a salon before salons were allowed to re-open to the rest of the public there.
No... you are helping me out by providing some clarity for his jumbled thoughts... including citations. That older opinion piece helped me understand the conservative POV that WW seems to discuss issues from. I really enjoyed the comparisons...like comparing the Tea Party to Occupy Wall Street...of course we all know by now that the Tea Party was funded by KOCH money (Americans for Prosperity) and that caucus was almost entirely absorbed into the national Republican party. What happened to the folks from Occupy Wall Street? Did those protests against wage and wealth inequality protests even last 2 months? That was an instructive comparison while considering what "liberal hypocrisy and double standards" might mean in to a conservative in 2022.
How do you think it relates to parents and community members, angry about books in schools?
Do you want to discuss the topic thread or have a tea party?
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7 hours ago, chare said:
Again, where did I say it did?
Yes, I explained this and apologized for my lack of clarity.
Again, I posted a comment about edited video, a comment equally applicable to members on all sides. And then you proceeded to make multiple assumptions and ask several unrelated questions.
Hate might have been a strong term, but you are deffinately obsessed with this topic. How else would you explain your constant barrage of unrelated and off topic are you still beating your wife type questions.
I didn't say that you said that... I'm asking you a question. How/why would any conservative read that word and get the impression that it refers to all Republicans? Why would any person read that word and assume that it was pejorative? Why does this get brought up so often? What is so upsetting about MAGAphile as a term? No one, to my knowledge, has called anyone in these threads a MAGAphile. Yet, negative intent is assigned to the word.
I respond to what others comment or share in the thread. If my style of interaction is off putting you are welcome to ignore me...and...participation in this thread (created for WW) is not required.
How does MAGAphile give any impression that it applies to all conservatives?
I was confused when you suggested that I should take my own advice and then linked to a statement rather than some advice. Maybe you didn't get that I was reflecting that member's language back to them with the "reading comprehension" quote that you've highlighted.
Thanks for your appraisal of my "hatred of all things MAGAphillic"... that really cleared up some unaddressed elements in this thread about angry parents at school board meetings. I don't know that I "hate" the MAGA movement, but I do consider it extremely dangerous and harmful to our republic. The things that motivate the members don't appear to be founded in facts or evidence and too many of the members openly speak of civil war. That's not something that any patriot should ignore, IMV. Hate isn't something that has much space in my life but it gets mentioned in these political threads by conservatives with regularity.
Why do you think that is?
It's hard to know exactly what a "MAGAphile" is because it's not a real word. It's a made up word by liberals to to add another identity marker and to "other" people. Not to mention an emotional reaction of possibly having to take him as their POTUS again?
Some conservatives may like Trump for his policy and how the country was during his term. However do not agree with the violence on Jan.6 or some of the fanatic radicals that left wing media would have you believe is rampant or a "problem within the republican party" and voting for "Republicans will see an end of our democracy......" Hmmmm, hyperbole?
Is it possible to have voted for Trump, like Trump but not be a "MAGAPhile"? What's the parameters? There isn't any because it is a fake word.
P.s, I am not feeling like a victim, emotional or agitated.
I didn't say that you said that... I'm asking you a question. How/why would any conservative read that word and get the impression that it refers to all Republicans? Why would any person read that word and assume that it was pejorative? Why does this get brought up so often? What is so upsetting about MAGAphile as a term? No one, to my knowledge, has called anyone in these threads a MAGAphile. Yet, negative intent is assigned to the word.
I respond to what others comment or share in the thread. If my style of interaction is off putting you are welcome to ignore me...and...participation in this thread (created for WW) is not required.
Awwwww thank you! For me?
MAGAphile is a made up fake word so how do you even know what it includes or doesn't?
How can you be self aware and not notice your own words that, strongly suggest at least a distain for Republicans in general. Not just MAGAphiles whatever that is.
You demand facts and logic. We call you on your "MEGAuse" of a made up word not because we are upset by it , but cannot fathom the idea that you cannot see your own conflict with your own ideology. "Facts! Evidence" while simultaneously using a made up word that no one can define. And repetitively.
It sounds just as foolish as if people call Biden supporters, "BIDENators" or "Trump derangement syndrome" or something foolish like that. Then use it and claim it has some sort of factual intent with the break down of the word.or there is an actual psychological affiliation. A word that factually doesn't exist except for maybe 2 years ago.
It's hard to know exactly what a "MAGAphile" is because it's not a real word. It's a made up word by liberals to to add another identity marker and to "other" people. Not to mention an emotional reaction of possibly having to take him as their POTUS again?
Some conservatives may like Trump for his policy and how the country was during his term. However do not agree with the violence on Jan.6 or some of the fanatic radicals that left wing media would have you believe is rampant or a "problem within the republican party" and voting for "Republicans will see an end of our democracy......" Hmmmm, hyperbole?
Is it possible to have voted for Trump, like Trump but not be a "MAGAPhile"? What's the parameters? There isn't any because it is a fake word.
P.s, I am not feeling like a victim, emotional or agitated.
Of course it’s a made up word - that’s how language works. Google it if you don’t believe me. If not for made-up words, we’d all be communicating in grunts and body language!
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1 minute ago, Weetywill said:
It's hard to know exactly what a "MAGAphile" is because it's not a real word. It's a made up word by liberals to to add another identity marker and to "other" people. Not to mention an emotional reaction of possibly having to take him as their POTUS again?
Some conservatives may like Trump for his policy and how the country was during his term. However do not agree with the violence on Jan.6 or some of the fanatic radicals that left wing media would have you believe is rampant or a "problem within the republican party" and voting for "Republicans will see an end of our democracy......" Hmmmm, hyperbole?
Is it possible to have voted for Trump, like Trump but not be a "MAGAPhile"? What's the parameters? There isn't any because it is a fake word.
P.s, I am not feeling like a victim, emotional or agitated.
Yep...liberals are required to be very specific when speaking about groups within the conservative political spectrum. A growing number of republican voting conservatives don't want to be associated with any of the bad that is attached to Trump. No matter how we word it, someone inevitably goes to the , "but that's not me" or "that's not all Republicans". It just derails conversations to have to re-litigate terminology over and over because a member feels too closely affiliated with Trump's dangerous corruption. People are responsible for their own feelings.
MAGA = Make America Great Again = Trump campaign slogan
It's hard to know exactly what a "MAGAphile" is because it's not a real word. It's a made up word by liberals to to add another identity marker and to "other" people. Not to mention an emotional reaction of possibly having to take him as their POTUS again?
Some conservatives may like Trump for his policy and how the country was during his term. However do not agree with the violence on Jan.6 or some of the fanatic radicals that left wing media would have you believe is rampant or a "problem within the republican party" and voting for "Republicans will see an end of our democracy......" Hmmmm, hyperbole?
Is it possible to have voted for Trump, like Trump but not be a "MAGAPhile"? What's the parameters? There isn't any because it is a fake word.
P.s, I am not feeling like a victim, emotional or agitated.
I don't think it's hard to know what a MAGA-phile is. It's not rocket science. We're all college educated here and can figure it out.
I saw the phrase "MAGA-Republican" today talking about the grandfather of a recent mass murderer. I see "MAGA-insert several terms" many times.
I agree that MAGAphile is a made up word to add another identity marker to "other people" and is used as an insult by some, and isn't all that common. I think saying "Trump supporter", MAGA-Republican or MAGA-phile is an important distinction because they are not like other more moderate conservative republicans. Just like "social democrats" or the liberal Green Party are not the same as mainstream and more moderate democrats. Just like "Tea Party Republicans" were a bit different. Sometimes a distinction is necessary.
Conservatives here fall into the idea that there are "others" because we've been told over and over when we talk about conservatives that it's "some, not all conservatives" (meaning "I'm not like the others") and that you can't paint conservatives with the same brush.
Admittedly Biden calling Trump "MAGA King" is a bit much.
The good news is that MAGA-Republicans seem to not be able to pack the punch they did before the mid-terms.
No one, to my knowledge, has called anyone in these threads a MAGAphile. Yet, negative intent is assigned to the word.
Beerman stated that he was called a MAGA-phile in a derogatory manner. I missed it but he wouldn't make that up.
For some of us even the term "Trump supporter" brings up negative connotations so if I say to someone "As a Trump supporter (MAGA-phile) you....." it's usually not a compliment.
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If one hates them, they are taking up way to much space in one's psyche. I kind of feel sorry for them since they probably have been demoralized by being nickle and dimed by people who live opulently. But I feel your "blood boiling" component because we all have information if we are curious enough to go look for it and so much of the population is incurious enough not to be skeptical. They don't want to be aggrieved, miserable and angry but it's the only behavior they have learned. They're just limited.