Published Nov 30, 2012
YouGotItNurse
4 Posts
As a first-year RN, I was working for a home health agency in hospice. My immediate supervisor was very condescending, very rude, and talked to me like I was stupid. She treated me like a child. After putting up with her attitude, and belittling me, and being overwhelmed/swamped with patients, being on-call, and paperwork for six months, I decided to quit on the following Monday. I updated ALL of my travel charts, gave full report to my immediate supervisor, and handed over all paperwork. All paperwork regarding patients were complete. Could they get me for patient abandonment?
Ntheboat2
366 Posts
Did she say she's going to?
Sorry, but I don't really know the answer to that.
I was just looking on the web because I'm curious to know the answer to that too and I found this:
The nurse-patient relationship begins when the nurse accepts responsibility for providing nursing care based upon a written or oral report of the patient needs. It ends when that responsibility has been transferred to another nurse along with communication detailing the patient’s needs
I'm sure there are more official and reliable sources, but from the above source, it sounds like you transferred responsibility. I know for sure how it works in a hospital setting, but I'm not sure how it works in a home health setting.
MunoRN, RN
8,058 Posts
The definition can vary somewhat from state to state, here is the NM definition: http://www.nursingald.com/Uploaded%5CNewsletterFiles%5CNM032004.pdf (page 4, upper left of page).
The definition can vary somewhat from state to state, here is the NM definition: http://www.nursingald.com/Uploaded\NewsletterFiles\NM032004.pdf (page 4, upper left of page).
This is from your link:
Patient abandonment occurs when the nurse has
accepted the patient assignment thus
establishing a nurse-patient relationship and
then severed the relationship/disengaged from
the relationship without giving reasonable notice
to a qualified person who can make
arrangements for the continuation of nursing
care by others. This is to be distinguished from
employment abandonment, such as, but not
limited to, contract issues; no call, no show;
refusal to work mandatory overtime; refusal to
float to unfamiliar areas; or resignation from a
position. The board has no jurisdiction over
employment issues.
I'm still not clear if what she did is patient abandonment though because I don't know what is considered "accepting the assignment" or "reasonable notice" in a home health, and specifically in a hospice situation. I know there's more autonomy in a home health environment and have no idea how that works as far as reporting to a supervisor, etc. I know if you work at a hospital then you just don't show up so you didn't accept the assignment and therefore it falls into a no call/no show or employment issue. So, you pretty much have to walk out of the hospital during the middle of a shift for it to be considered patient abandonment.
Thank u all for the reponses. No, she didn't say she was going to. A friend of mine pointed out the term "patient abandonment" and got me all worried. I just wanted to know if that was something they could do...
FORTHELOVEOF!!!!
299 Posts
If you quit before your shift is over, even if you hand it over to someone else, yes they can report you, at least in my state they can, and they did just last week.
CrunchRN, ADN, RN
4,549 Posts
It seems like you handed them off properly, but quitting without notice is never a good play.
I was off work on that Monday I decided to quit so it wasn't like I did a no call no show or I quit right as soon as I arrived to work
I coulda handled the employment part better as far as giving proper notice so yes, that part looks bad.
Well, lesson learned. I think since you did not start a new day after your day off it will not be abandonment. You will be ok. Just be honest in interviews and let them know you realize you should have handled it differently and that you will in the future.
Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN
20,908 Posts
The definition of abandonment with home health is different than that of hospital care. The patient is apart of a case load and there are usually specific steps that you have to take to end that "relationship" and ensure that the patient is handed over without harm or interruption of care. Who did you trun your case load to and did they accept?
We cannot give legal advice as per the TOS....the wording that concerns me
the nurse has accepted the patient assignment thus establishing a nurse-patient relationship and then severed the relationship/disengaged from the relationship without giving reasonable notice to a qualified person who can make arrangements for the continuation of nursing care by others.
SweettartRN
661 Posts
If the OP has at-will employment, then she's covered.