I haven't seen a post for Fall 2021 yet so here it is!
My choices are:
1. UofT
2. McMaster
3. Nipissing SPP
I started my OUAC application in November and now trying to work on the supplemental packages. My CASPer Test is on January 12, 2021.
I need to take Anatomy and Physio course(s) however, I'm having a hard time figuring out what would satisfy the requirements from all three universities. My options so far are:
1. Take CBLG 101 in Winter and CBLG 111 in Spring at Ryerson. However final grade will be in June; hoping that's fine. This satisfies all 3 unis
2. Take SCS 2159 in Winter from UofT which is enough for UofT and McMaster but not for Nipissing. I have to take an Anatomy course just for Nip.
I have a Bachelor's Degree in Early Childhood Education from back home, been working as an RECE in Toronto the last 8 years, have a Diploma in Nonprofit Management at Ryerson. My cGPA is 3.55 which I'm worried about. Lots of extra curricular activities from university and volunteering here in Toronto. I still have to compute the GPA for the last two years.
I requested WES to send my transcripts to Nip and McMaster and asked my old uni to send to UofT.
It's been an expensive application so far; really hoping I get in! Looking forward to chatting with you all and sharing our experiences.
Thank you so much for this! ❤️ I was honestly getting so worried and asking myself if I should still go to UofT
come to uoft! I did my previous undergrad at uoft and honestly, my perspective has changed A LOT LOL undergrad uoft was .. *put the worst meme possible here*, whereas uoft nursing experience is 200% enjoyable. yes we have moments. It's not like happily ever after all the time. faculty can be challenging here and there, instructor variability, etc etc. but this isn't just uoft nursing problem. im sure no single programs are perfect.
uoft's network is honestly amazing. some of the greatest mentors I met are from the same program, and they uplifted me so much. covid sucks, but my student life has been amazing. I met great friends who share same goals with me, and group assignments are 150% more manageable than undergrad ones LOL. uoft nursing has gone beyond FAR to get us the best clinical possible this year. even nipissing's SPP didn't start their placement until feb 2021 due to covid. we were right on since September, and this hasn't changed until now. uoft overall has such love-hate relationship with me but with nursing, I endorse our program 200%
I emailed them in March/April and they said, "end of May". So I'm assuming May 31.
I am taking AP at AU and I've booked my finals for May 24. It's a gamble, hoping to get transcript in by May 31. When's your finals?
I remember there was a discussion on this forum that if you have a conditional offer, the deadline was in June. Can't remember
Im still waiting for mine, hoping to get in!
I'm in the same position but I have mine booked for the 25th. I think I'm going to hand in the unofficial transcript after I'm done and request for the official, this way uoft knows what's up. But I'm still behind on coursework so trying to make it work. Thanks!
it is doable to get A- to A average. our class average is mostly A-. Yes our works are graded by the instructor and TA, and there is some subjectivity associated with that. but this does NOT mean you are graded AGAINST each other. nope. nope. also, drop that idea right now ? don't think you are competing against other students in the same program. uplifting is the culture we pursue here. at the end of the day, we are working together to be a nurse.
grading subjectivity: nursing school essays are different than any other essays. you write a nursing care plan which should be evidence-informed, and this is you v.s. TA/instructor subjectivity, not you v.s. someone else's work. even with that TA subjectivity - we are talking about nurses grading our works using their clinical knowledge and experience. so this can't even be called subjectivity. I mean, they are nurses. not with a year or two experience. some are with decades, some are doing phd. can we say that its subjective when they grade our works? works done by nursing students who have a bare minimum of practice knoweldge? especially when that work is about your own clinical judgment? not really. so grading subjectivity doesn't really exist.
grade-wise. I personally am maintaining about 3.9 cgpa. school definitely is more manageable than undergrad, and im more mature. however, this is also because I literally spend most of my time on studying when im not working. ngl, nursing school studying is challenging. there are tons of smart colleagues. but it doesnt mean you can't get B+ grades
the faculty does not have an internal policy on "how many students can get A" thing - there are departments e.g. psych that do have this at UofT though, but not nursing. if you get A, you get A. if you write B-material, you get B. this is well represented on our assignment averages (they do announce assignment averages). Often times when you follow up with your instructor or TA about your assignment grades, your grade makes total sense and most of my friends feel this way too. they get confused with their mark, they receive feedback, they totally accept their B or B+ grade. It's just all about taking that feedback and doing better with your next nursing care plan.
regarding doing masters later on - high GPA isn't going to get you anywhere. I am literally a baby nursing student in year 1, but already I can tell its much more about making connections and building extracurriculars. no single clinical extern and research jobs I've applied to and been offered asked about my GPA or performance at school. they were interested in my resume, my certificates, volunteer experience as a nursing student. as we progress with our courses, our mindsets are also changing from "lemme get that sweet A" to "lemme pass this course and actually know how to do things as a nurse". so don't let that "uoft nuffs students GPA" deter you from choosing uoft. I've seen 3.11gpa getting to uoft NP with literally the most diverse experience - its literally on this allnurses NP forum somewhere. and its recent.
im in the midst of catching up on studying but if you have more questions feel free to ping me.
oh, also, the admissions average is definitely not 3.8... I'd say its closer to 3.6-3.7, B+ to A- range. I have a couple of friends who got in with 3.4-3.5 as well. so stay hopeful!
as of 2016 the entering average was a 3.8GPA, it is likely much higher this year as the applicant pool is allegedly much bigger due to a lot of people holding off on entering programs during the start of the pandemic.
To your point about grading distribution policies, how do you know this if it’s not explicitly stated publicly anywhere? I can’t claim that it exist or doesn’t because I don’t have any evidence to prove or disprove it. This is usually something that is not shared with students.
On the issue of subjectivity, I’m not sure I understand your point. Your argument is that because there are nurses with multiple years of clinical experience or higher education that subjectivity does not exist? If you think that plays a role in grading then it is inherently subjective as T.A’s with less clinical knowledge or higher education aren’t able to discern what a good care plan is. There is a lot of grey area in nursing theory, not having explicit grading rubrics leads to subjective grading. Your t.a may have multiple decades of clinical experience but they aren’t going to expect their students to reflect that in their writing. They are going to see where their students stand in relation to one another and grade accordingly.
as of 2016 the entering average was a 3.8GPA, it is likely much higher this year as the applicant pool is allegedly much bigger due to a lot of people holding off on entering programs during the start of the pandemic.
To your point about grading distribution policies, how do you know this if it’s not explicitly stated publicly anywhere? I can’t claim that it exist or doesn’t because I don’t have any evidence to prove or disprove it. This is usually something that is not shared with students.
On the issue of subjectivity, I’m not sure I understand your point. Your argument is that because there are nurses with multiple years of clinical experience or higher education that subjectivity does not exist? If you think that plays a role in grading then it is inherently subjective as T.A’s with less clinical knowledge or higher education aren’t able to discern what a good care plan is. There is a lot of grey area in nursing theory, not having explicit grading rubrics leads to subjective grading. Your t.a may have multiple decades of clinical experience but they aren’t going to expect their students to reflect that in their writing. They are going to see where their students stand in relation to one another and grade accordingly.
as of 2016 the entering average was a 3.8GPA, it is likely much higher this year as the applicant pool is allegedly much bigger due to a lot of people holding off on entering programs during the start of the pandemic.
To your point about grading distribution policies, how do you know this if it’s not explicitly stated publicly anywhere? I can’t claim that it exist or doesn’t because I don’t have any evidence to prove or disprove it. This is usually something that is not shared with students.
On the issue of subjectivity, I’m not sure I understand your point. Your argument is that because there are nurses with multiple years of clinical experience or higher education that subjectivity does not exist? If you think that plays a role in grading then it is inherently subjective as T.A’s with less clinical knowledge or higher education aren’t able to discern what a good care plan is. There is a lot of grey area in nursing theory, not having explicit grading rubrics leads to subjective grading. Your t.a may have multiple decades of clinical experience but they aren’t going to expect their students to reflect that in their writing. They are going to see where their students stand in relation to one another and grade accordingly.
That's from 2016 so a lot could have changed in 5 years, maybe UofT is accepting more people with lower GPAs, who knows? If the current UofT student is saying that the admissions average is closer to 3.6-3.7, then maybe we should listen to them? And yeah are you a current UofT nursing student?
That's from 2016 so a lot could have changed in 5 years, maybe UofT is accepting more people with lower GPAs, who knows? If the current UofT student is saying that the admissions average is closer to 3.6-3.7 then maybe we should believe them? And yeah are you a UofT student?
Why would I believe someone who can’t cite where they’re getting statistics from? It’s anecdotal. I provided my source and my rationale for why UofT’s entering average has likely remained the same from 2016 at 3.8 or gone up. The GPA was trending upward each year, I highly doubt it had a decline. But again, I can’t make that concrete claim without stats, they are so they need to provide evidence.
I’m not sure you need to be a UofT nurse to make a valid critique?
Why would I believe someone who can’t cite where they’re getting statistics from? It’s anecdotal. I provided my source and my rationale for why UofT’s entering average has likely remained the same from 2016 at 3.8 or gone up. The GPA was trending upward each year, I highly doubt it had a decline. But again, I can’t make that concrete claim without stats, they are so they need to provide evidence.
I’m not sure you need to be a UofT nurse to make a valid critique?
Why would I believe someone who can’t cite where their getting statistics from? It’s anecdotal. I provided my source and my rationale for why UofT’s entering average has likely remained the same from 2016 at 3.8 or gone up. The GPA was trending upward each year, I highly doubt it had a decline. But again, I can’t make that concrete claim without stats, they are so they need to provide evidence.
I’m not sure you need to be a UofT nurse to make a valid critique?
It's because I'm sure there have been discussions in class about the admissions average. I have a friend who goes to mac and she has been told how many students applied during her year and the admissions average. But I do understand that it would be good to look at the recent stats as well if we can find it somewhere
Right, so why don’t we listen to the person that’s an actual UofT nursing student. I think they’d know what they’re talking about LOL
Or not? I wasn’t aware that being a student who goes to UofT and cites random statistics is immune to being fact checked.
1 minute ago, throwaway777 said:
Email admissions and ask, it’s not that deep.
Why would I email admissions and ask LOL? The OP made unsubstantiated claims and I provided my sources. I don’t have an interest in determining what the current GPA is. I just wanted to point out that my original claim that the average is likely hovering around a 3.8 isn’t as preposterous as the OP claimed saying it’s around 3.6
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come to uoft! I did my previous undergrad at uoft and honestly, my perspective has changed A LOT LOL undergrad uoft was .. *put the worst meme possible here*, whereas uoft nursing experience is 200% enjoyable. yes we have moments. It's not like happily ever after all the time. faculty can be challenging here and there, instructor variability, etc etc. but this isn't just uoft nursing problem. im sure no single programs are perfect.
uoft's network is honestly amazing. some of the greatest mentors I met are from the same program, and they uplifted me so much. covid sucks, but my student life has been amazing. I met great friends who share same goals with me, and group assignments are 150% more manageable than undergrad ones LOL. uoft nursing has gone beyond FAR to get us the best clinical possible this year. even nipissing's SPP didn't start their placement until feb 2021 due to covid. we were right on since September, and this hasn't changed until now. uoft overall has such love-hate relationship with me but with nursing, I endorse our program 200%