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Hey everyone!
I haven't seen a post for Fall 2021 yet so here it is!
My choices are:
1. UofT
2. McMaster
3. Nipissing SPP
I started my OUAC application in November and now trying to work on the supplemental packages. My CASPer Test is on January 12, 2021.
I need to take Anatomy and Physio course(s) however, I'm having a hard time figuring out what would satisfy the requirements from all three universities. My options so far are:
1. Take CBLG 101 in Winter and CBLG 111 in Spring at Ryerson. However final grade will be in June; hoping that's fine. This satisfies all 3 unis
2. Take SCS 2159 in Winter from UofT which is enough for UofT and McMaster but not for Nipissing. I have to take an Anatomy course just for Nip.
I have a Bachelor's Degree in Early Childhood Education from back home, been working as an RECE in Toronto the last 8 years, have a Diploma in Nonprofit Management at Ryerson. My cGPA is 3.55 which I'm worried about. Lots of extra curricular activities from university and volunteering here in Toronto. I still have to compute the GPA for the last two years.
I requested WES to send my transcripts to Nip and McMaster and asked my old uni to send to UofT.
It's been an expensive application so far; really hoping I get in! Looking forward to chatting with you all and sharing our experiences.
14 minutes ago, happytraveller said:What do you mean by "you’re going to be competing with 170 other students to maintain a high GPA"? Why wouldn't many students get a high GPA, why would they need to compete with one another to attain it?
I’m not sure how UofT does things but for the most part your graded against your peers. UofT has a lot of research and writing components that allow for subjective grading in which the t.a is likely going to mark you in relation to everyone else who has written the same paper.
1 minute ago, happytraveller said:It makes no sense why UofT would accept students from a certain school and not the others for their masters programs?
Yeah, but I think it's not so much about the school, but rather UofT's requirements (I.e., certain GPA for last 2 years) which are always pretty strict - but with Nipissing being such an innovative program, most of the courses are pass/fail which leaves the question of whether UofT would accept students from a pass/fail BScN program, because technically they could not, I mean who knows, I feel like UofT needs to be asked specifically or like a Nipissing BScN graduate needs to be asked who is in a master's program right now
Just now, JouneyofLife said:Yeah, but I think it's not so much about the school, but rather UofT's requirements (I.e., certain GPA for last 2 years) which are always pretty strict - but with Nipissing being such an innovative program, most of the courses are pass/fail which leaves the question of whether UofT would accept students from a pass/fail BScN program, because technically they could not, I mean who knows, I feel like UofT needs to be asked specifically or like a Nipissing BScN graduate needs to be asked who is in a master's program right now
I’m pretty sure it’s less so about marks when applying for NP programs. The emphasis is on clinical experience and leadership. UofT is definitely aware that SPP is a second entry program that draws in competitive applicants. They would probably look at your undergraduate marks and gage your ability to succeed in an NP Program. If you’ve managed to complete an undergrad degree and a second entry nursing degree despite it being pass/fail I’m sure they will feel confident you can complete the NP Program. Not to mention since we all have to write the NCLEX, which demonstrates you have the foundational understanding needed to work as a nurse and from then on it’s just your added clinical experience which prepares you for an advanced practice nursing role.
2 hours ago, Milomars said:I’m not sure how UofT does things but for the most part your graded against your peers. UofT has a lot of research and writing components that allow for subjective grading in which the t.a is likely going to mark you in relation to everyone else who has written the same paper.
Sorry but I still don't understand ? aren't there more than one TA marking so how do they exactly mark us in relation to everyone else? I thought they'd just follow a rubric like any other essay/assignment
5 hours ago, happytraveller said:Sorry but I still don't understand ? aren't there more than one TA marking so how do they exactly mark us in relation to everyone else? I thought they'd just follow a rubric like any other essay/assignment
I’m not sure how best to explain it but every school has internal policies around grade/mark distribution. The entering average to UofT is 3.8 I believe, that’s an A. Everyone at UofT is capable of producing A level work but not everyone will get a 3.8 GPA in the program (for multiple reasons). None of this is explicitly stated anywhere but I guess the best comparison would be, everyone who came into your undergraduate program was likely an A student. When they got to university from high school, only a certain portion of every high school A student in your program translated to only a certain amount of A students in your undergrad program. I know the registrar at schools sets certain averages for programs and classes. It works both ways, they can’t make a class so hard that everyone fails and they can’t make it so easy that everyone in the class gets a 4.0. It gets complicated so I would just disregard what I’ve said and work hard, you’ll do fine whichever school you choose!
Hi,
has anyone requested final transcripts for Western or Humber and is it taking it rlly long for them to receive it? Since, I requested my final transcript for Western to be sent immediately and it was printed on May 30 but it still isn't updated on the portal. And for Humber on ocas it says that it arrived at the destination on May 4th but on the portal it says that on May 8 they still haven't received my transcript.
13 hours ago, Milomars said:I’m not sure how UofT does things but for the most part your graded against your peers. UofT has a lot of research and writing components that allow for subjective grading in which the t.a is likely going to mark you in relation to everyone else who has written the same paper.
just so I can clarify some of uoft grading thing.
it is doable to get A- to A average. our class average is mostly A-. Yes our works are graded by the instructor and TA, and there is some subjectivity associated with that. but this does NOT mean you are graded AGAINST each other. nope. nope. also, drop that idea right now ? don't think you are competing against other students in the same program. uplifting is the culture we pursue here. at the end of the day, we are working together to be a nurse.
grading subjectivity: nursing school essays are different than any other essays. you write a nursing care plan which should be evidence-informed, and this is you v.s. TA/instructor subjectivity, not you v.s. someone else's work. even with that TA subjectivity - we are talking about nurses grading our works using their clinical knowledge and experience. so this can't even be called subjectivity. I mean, they are nurses. not with a year or two experience. some are with decades, some are doing phd. can we say that its subjective when they grade our works? works done by nursing students who have a bare minimum of practice knoweldge? especially when that work is about your own clinical judgment? not really. so grading subjectivity doesn't really exist.
grade-wise. I personally am maintaining about 3.9 cgpa. school definitely is more manageable than undergrad, and im more mature. however, this is also because I literally spend most of my time on studying when im not working. ngl, nursing school studying is challenging. there are tons of smart colleagues. but it doesnt mean you can't get B+ grades
the faculty does not have an internal policy on "how many students can get A" thing - there are departments e.g. psych that do have this at UofT though, but not nursing. if you get A, you get A. if you write B-material, you get B. this is well represented on our assignment averages (they do announce assignment averages). Often times when you follow up with your instructor or TA about your assignment grades, your grade makes total sense and most of my friends feel this way too. they get confused with their mark, they receive feedback, they totally accept their B or B+ grade. It's just all about taking that feedback and doing better with your next nursing care plan.
regarding doing masters later on - high GPA isn't going to get you anywhere. I am literally a baby nursing student in year 1, but already I can tell its much more about making connections and building extracurriculars. no single clinical extern and research jobs I've applied to and been offered asked about my GPA or performance at school. they were interested in my resume, my certificates, volunteer experience as a nursing student. as we progress with our courses, our mindsets are also changing from "lemme get that sweet A" to "lemme pass this course and actually know how to do things as a nurse". so don't let that "uoft nuffs students GPA" deter you from choosing uoft. I've seen 3.11gpa getting to uoft NP with literally the most diverse experience - its literally on this allnurses NP forum somewhere. and its recent.
im in the midst of catching up on studying but if you have more questions feel free to ping me.
oh, also, the admissions average is definitely not 3.8... I'd say its closer to 3.6-3.7, B+ to A- range. I have a couple of friends who got in with 3.4-3.5 as well. so stay hopeful!
2 hours ago, mm1317 said:hey guys, I wanted to confirm the deadline to hand in our prereq mark for uoft. I'm currently doing physiology at AU and wanted to make sure I book my exams ahead of time.
I emailed them in March/April and they said, "end of May". So I'm assuming May 31.
I am taking AP at AU and I've booked my finals for May 24. It's a gamble, hoping to get transcript in by May 31. When's your finals?
I remember there was a discussion on this forum that if you have a conditional offer, the deadline was in June. Can't remember
Im still waiting for mine, hoping to get in!
16 minutes ago, PedRN2022 said:just so I can clarify some of uoft grading thing.
it is doable to get A- to A average. our class average is mostly A-. Yes our works are graded by the instructor and TA, and there is some subjectivity associated with that. but this does NOT mean you are graded AGAINST each other. nope. nope. also, drop that idea right now ? don't think you are competing against other students in the same program. uplifting is the culture we pursue here. at the end of the day, we are working together to be a nurse.
grading subjectivity: nursing school essays are different than any other essays. you write a nursing care plan which should be evidence-informed, and this is you v.s. TA/instructor subjectivity, not you v.s. someone else's work. even with that TA subjectivity - we are talking about nurses grading our works using their clinical knowledge and experience. so this can't even be called subjectivity. I mean, they are nurses. not with a year or two experience. some are with decades, some are doing phd. can we say that its subjective when they grade our works? works done by nursing students who have a bare minimum of practice knoweldge? especially when that work is about your own clinical judgment? not really. so grading subjectivity doesn't really exist.
grade-wise. I personally am maintaining about 3.9 cgpa. school definitely is more manageable than undergrad, and im more mature. however, this is also because I literally spend most of my time on studying when im not working. ngl, nursing school studying is challenging. there are tons of smart colleagues. but it doesnt mean you can't get B+ grades
the faculty does not have an internal policy on "how many students can get A" thing - there are departments e.g. psych that do have this at UofT though, but not nursing. if you get A, you get A. if you write B-material, you get B. this is well represented on our assignment averages (they do announce assignment averages). Often times when you follow up with your instructor or TA about your assignment grades, your grade makes total sense and most of my friends feel this way too. they get confused with their mark, they receive feedback, they totally accept their B or B+ grade. It's just all about taking that feedback and doing better with your next nursing care plan.
regarding doing masters later on - high GPA isn't going to get you anywhere. I am literally a baby nursing student in year 1, but already I can tell its much more about making connections and building extracurriculars. no single clinical extern and research jobs I've applied to and been offered asked about my GPA or performance at school. they were interested in my resume, my certificates, volunteer experience as a nursing student. as we progress with our courses, our mindsets are also changing from "lemme get that sweet A" to "lemme pass this course and actually know how to do things as a nurse". so don't let that "uoft nuffs students GPA" deter you from choosing uoft. I've seen 3.11gpa getting to uoft NP with literally the most diverse experience - its literally on this allnurses NP forum somewhere. and its recent.
im in the midst of catching up on studying but if you have more questions feel free to ping me.
oh, also, the admissions average is definitely not 3.8... I'd say its closer to 3.6-3.7, B+ to A- range. I have a couple of friends who got in with 3.4-3.5 as well. so stay hopeful!
Thank you so much for this! ❤️ I was honestly getting so worried and asking myself if I should still go to UofT
2 minutes ago, YanBan2020 said:I emailed them in March/April and they said, "end of May". So I'm assuming May 31.
I am taking AP at AU and I've booked my finals for May 24. It's a gamble, hoping to get transcript in by May 31. When's your finals?
I remember there was a discussion on this forum that if you have a conditional offer, the deadline was in June. Can't remember
Im still waiting for mine, hoping to get in!
Transcripts have to be submitted by July 15 if you have a conditional offer!
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