Why do nurses eat their young? - page 6

I received my DREAM JOB last June in L&D as a new grad and was basically taught everything I know from my wonderful preceptor. I was hired for nights, because that was what was available at the time... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from SmilingBluEyes
    One way to do away with excuses not to do weekends and holidays is to keep track. EVERYONE senior or not, does have to take turns doing holidays and weekends where I work. And it's fair and nobody whines about it. Glad I work where I do. Expectations are clear in that respect.
    Same here . . .if you had Christmas off last year, you may have to work it this year. And we rotate weekends. Regardless of seniority. Which I happen to agree with.

    steph
  2. by   PANurseRN1
    Quote from stevielynn
    We are trying to do away with the cliche. I don't want to "go with it". It hurts the image of nurses. I don't believe in it. I'd like to see it go away.

    steph
    Indeed. Tell you what cinthern, why don't you "go with" every hurtful cliche applied to new nurses. See how that works for you.

    Now, let's just do away with these nonsense cliches once and for all. If your job isn't to your satisfaction, if everyone you work with is "burnt to a crisp" as you say, then maybe you need to find a better environment.
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Originally Posted by cinthern
    it's a cliche, go with it.
    It's a pathetic rationale for bad behavior, won't go with it.
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Rationalizing the wrongs is not the same as using cliches. I am sorry you are not understanding and taking what you can from all these folks trying to help you. Good luck.
  5. by   newyorknursey
    No one wants to admit it but I will- when you are stressed out you want to vent, no? Sometimes it's 'the crap rolls downhill'. The experienced RN let's say, gets attitude from an arrogant doc(just a hypothetical, ) and who gets it? you guessed it, the dog, gets kicked, or in this case, the newbie.

    Ever had a bad day and taken off someone's head just because they were there AND THEY WERE SAFE (could be husband, salesclerk, dog, kid...); well that is what the newbie is- no power in the hierarchy, indeed, most newbies can be fired in the first 6 months with no repercussions).

    I am on orientation on a busy LD unit, and there are a few of us newbies, fortunately for us, we can talk to each other, and agree we are all pretty much depressed with our situation and trying to hang in there. Even those of us who have great preceptors will have this grinding depression of being at the bottom of the hill where the crap has rolled.

    And, by the way, I can say I am a feminist, and I see women including myself constantly treating men with more consideration than we do other women.
  6. by   Gennaver
    Quote from newyorknursey
    ...
    I am on orientation on a busy LD unit, and there are a few of us newbies, fortunately for us, we can talk to each other, and agree we are all pretty much depressed with our situation and trying to hang in there.

    Even those of us who have great preceptors will have this grinding depression of being at the bottom of the hill where the crap has rolled.

    ...
    Hi,
    You describe all the newbies on your unit as being pretty much depressed aobu tyour situation...grinding depression of being at the bottom...

    Sounds to me like you are in a toxic place an you should ALL resign. Walk. You are all new and all depressed and in a cruddy job. Why stay? It will not get better. Obvioulsy there were serious issues or else why would there be a whole slew of newbies? What caused that rapid turnover?

    Bail!!!! All of ya! Just my two pennies.
    Gen
  7. by   mercyteapot
    Why do any nurses think of themselves as anyone's ''young''. Come on, now, we're all grown ups and shouldn't be thinking of anyone other than our parents in a Mommy and Daddy sort of way. If veteran nurses are rude to you, it has nothing to do with you being their ''young''. It has to do with the different ways that people handle stress or dissension.

    It degrades our entire profession when anyone, rookies or veterans, uses infantilizing terms to describe interpersonal relationships.
  8. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from mercyteapot
    Why do any nurses think of themselves as anyone's ''young''. Come on, now, we're all grown ups and shouldn't be thinking of anyone other than our parents in a Mommy and Daddy sort of way. If veteran nurses are rude to you, it has nothing to do with you being their ''young''. It has to do with the different ways that people handle stress or dissension.

    It degrades our entire profession when anyone, rookies or veterans, uses infantilizing terms to describe interpersonal relationships.

    :yeahthat:
  9. by   nurse79
    yes nurses DO eat their young..its really pathetic. I too remember being a LOWLY student nurse and having a rough time with nurses wanting to help. I never got in the way, but the majority of them were so unapprochable. Dont get me wrong, i did learn alot from them as well, but it is pretty sad. even on the floors u can see how certain seasoned RNs eat up the newbies...its like "sink or swim". Ive been new to L/D and ive seen that as well. It is a shame, no wonder why RNs get burned out so soon. It is a profession where u have to look out for your own behind. of course we all "stick together" but for the most part, i dont trust alot of RNs.
  10. by   Gennaver
    Quote from nurse79
    yes nurses DO eat their young..its really pathetic. I too remember being a LOWLY student nurse and having a rough time with nurses wanting to help. I never got in the way, but the majority of them were so unapprochable. Dont get me wrong, i did learn alot from them as well, but it is pretty sad. even on the floors u can see how certain seasoned RNs eat up the newbies...its like "sink or swim". Ive been new to L/D and ive seen that as well. It is a shame, no wonder why RNs get burned out so soon. It is a profession where u have to look out for your own behind. of course we all "stick together" but for the most part, i dont trust alot of RNs.
    Hello,
    The previous two posters were so eloquent in promoting the strength of our profession.

    Possibly those who are feeling as "lowly" or like "yung'ins" were not fully mature?

    I am a 40 year old soon to be professional and have had successes and failures and experiences in my life. At this stage of the game, no one is going to "eat me up" nor leave me to "sink or swim", possilby that is because I know how to use a life preserver?

    The word should not be v i c t i m newbie nurses but, new professionals. If you do not trust a lot of RNs, (assuming you mean both those you do and do not know),then I agree that it is wise to use discretion in who you do trust, again, professional.
    Gen
  11. by   Bluse
    This is so correct. They feel like crap actually and are just taking it out on you.
  12. by   newyorknursey
    Quote from Gennaver
    Hi,
    You describe all the newbies on your unit as being pretty much depressed aobu tyour situation...grinding depression of being at the bottom...

    Sounds to me like you are in a toxic place an you should ALL resign. Walk. You are all new and all depressed and in a cruddy job. Why stay? It will not get better. Obvioulsy there were serious issues or else why would there be a whole slew of newbies? What caused that rapid turnover?

    Bail!!!! All of ya! Just my two pennies.
    Gen
    i am curious what difference it will be to nurse in the army- it is an intensely busy floor, it is new york city- with challenging pace in any case (and tons o' attitude) not the friendly neighbourhood hospital....the day shift is stressful and alot of senior nurses who are on the verge of retirement- not unusual for civilian nursing in 2007. or new york. but yes, it may mean moving somewhere more rural to be able to feel more satisfied...

    please let us know how you find your new career when you graduate- i would love to hear your experiences!!!!!

    much thanks!!!!!!

    hb
  13. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from newyorknursey
    it is an intensely busy floor, it is new york city- with challenging pace in any case (and tons o' attitude) not the friendly neighbourhood hospital....the day shift is stressful and alot of senior nurses who are on the verge of retirement- not unusual for civilian nursing in 2007. or new york. but yes, it may mean moving somewhere more rural to be able to feel more satisfied...
    I hate to burst your bubble....but as a native Floridian and southerner, I dealt with less attitude, less pace and less stress in Manhattan hospitals, than in Florida during "The Season". Despite the fact that many of the patients are quite literally the same.

    Much the same can be said of Boston, though I can say there was some heavy attitude in Philly - not as bad as FL but worse than Manhattan or Boston.

    In many of the northern hospitals, management does not let visitors/patients run all over the staff as they do in the Forprofits, customer service oriented facilities in smaller areas. I had visitors evicted (literally picked up and carried out) for problem behavior in NYC/Philly facilities that would have had management licking their Manolos in West Palm Beach.

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