Why do nurses eat their young? - page 3

I received my DREAM JOB last June in L&D as a new grad and was basically taught everything I know from my wonderful preceptor. I was hired for nights, because that was what was available at the time... Read More

  1. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from caroladybelle
    I don't know.

    WHEN DID YOU STOP BEATING YOUR MOTHER????

    WHEN DID YOU STOP SLEEPING AROUND ?????

    WHEN DID YOU STOP LYING/CHEATING/ETC???????

    To pose these questions to you would be just as unfair as you posing the question, "Why do nurses eat their young?'

    It basically accuses all of us nurses as though it were a fact. When we could easily say the same about you, just as mistakenly.

    I suggest that you rephrase your question.....or it will be obvious why YOU are being possibly eaten (a clue is that it has nothing to do with being amongst nurses or being young....and everything to do with YOUR behavior).

    And I don't see where "nurses" are the problem....it sounds like management is the issue, as they handle who has seniority and gets a preferred position. The average "nurse" is that in charge of that.
    YES!!!!!!!
  2. by   mercyteapot
    Because we're big ole meanies...
  3. by   Tweety
    Because you taste good.


    Just kidding.

    First of all if you are allowing people to "bite your head off" then you are part of the problem and need to learn some skills to nip this kind of stuff in the bud. No one bites my head off....ever.

    Mistake number two was going to your peers about a position you wanted. It's none of their business. You should have went to your manager and asked for the job. Let the cards of their resentment fall where they may, what they think of you wanting days shift and going to day shift is their problem and not yours. You're going to pay your own dues your own way.

    Good luck to you. Nurses as a rule don't eat their young. It sounds like it's just one issue, because you said they were supportive and thought you a good nurse. Why brand the whole profession and them as a group over this one issue?
  4. by   PANurseRN1
    Why do new nurses seem to think they should get whatever they want handed to them on a silver platter?

    I agree 1,000 million percent with carolladybelle's post. Good Lord, this topic is so nauseating, it ought to come with a complimentary dose of Zofran every time someone starts another thread about it. If new nurses wonder why there is hesitation by some older nurses to precept, they have only to reference the plethora of anti-older nurse threads and posts to find out why.
  5. by   cinthern
    Thanks again, I appreciate both sides of the coin. I can totally tell who has been a nurse for a long time and who are newbies just by the responses. No need for any hostility, it's just an observation I have made from being where I have been for the last year, and the nurses who have been around for a long time are definitely more impatient, nasty and downright mean to me, but that's there problem.

    Nobody "handed" me this job, I worked my ass off for it. I went back to school later on in life (I am in my 40's) to only do L&D nursing, even after everyone I ever met told me I would never be able to get a position as a new grad in L&D, I was determined, and I did it. I will be damned if someone tries to take that away from me. I LOVE what I do, I am sorry that I didn't have to do 1-2 years of med-surg, but I thank God for where I am today.

    Again, thanks for the responses, and keep them coming!

    Jennie
    Last edit by cinthern on Apr 2, '07
  6. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from cinthern
    Thanks again, I appreciate both sides of the coin. I can totally tell who has been a nurse for a long time and who are newbies just by the responses. No need for any hostility, it's just an observation I have made from being where I have been for the last year, and the nurses who have been around for a long time are definitely more impatient, nasty and downright mean to me, but that's there problem. I chalk it up to jealousy.

    Nobody "handed" me this job, I worked my ass off for it. I went back to school later on in life (I am in my 40's) to only do L&D nursing, even after everyone I ever met told me I would never be able to get a position as a new grad in L&D, I was determined, and I did it. I will be damned if someone tries to take that away from me. I LOVE what I do, I am sorry that I didn't have to do 1-2 years of med-surg, but I thank God for where I am today.

    Again, thanks for the responses, and keep them coming!

    Jennie
    Me think thou protesteth too much...

    I very much doubt anyone is jealous of you.
  7. by   Ruby Vee
    Quote from mercyteapot
    Me think thou protesteth too much...

    I very much doubt anyone is jealous of you.
    I have serious questions about anyone who thinks they're being "eaten" because everyone is jealous of them!
  8. by   cinthern
    OK, I took the part of jealousy out of there, poor words on my behalf. My bad, don't shoot me.

    I do need to acquire a hard shell if I am going to survive in this profession, and that is something I think takes years to acquire. I am sorry if anyone got insulted in any way from this post, that is not my intention, I am just curious as to why newer nurses are treated a certain way by the more seasoned nurses. No harm, no foul, just an observation AT MY HOSPITAL, doesn't mean it happens at every hospital.

    At any rate, any other newbies out there who feel the same way, please let me know what your experiences have been. Thanks again!

    Jennie
  9. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from caroladybelle

    I suggest that you rephrase your question.....or it will be obvious why YOU are being possibly eaten (a clue is that it has nothing to do with being amongst nurses or being young....and everything to do with YOUR behavior).

    And I don't see where "nurses" are the problem....it sounds like management is the issue, as they handle who has seniority and gets a preferred position. The average "nurse" is not in charge of that.
    I think that I will repeat this and leave at that.

    The OP has closed her mind and not even C4/TNT is likely to open it back up.
  10. by   Tweety
    I'm not quite sure I see any "hostility" on this thread, but perhaps you're way of looking at things is a bit more sensitive. I do think the more sensitive among us see more "eating of our young" than some of the rest of us.

    You're experience, is your experience. If it's nurses eating their young, then it's nurses eating their young and we need to be supportive.

    Ten years from now when your being nice to new grads, precepting them, showing them the ropes and you hear "why do nurses eat their young", surely you're not going to think "nurses eat their young, but of course I'm one of the few expections". You're going to look around you and say "well, perhaps some do and that's a big problem, but as a profession I see that it's not everywhere and everybody.".

    I also see the post where you're asking only to hear from new people. But I'm ignoring that. LOL

    Obviously I'm not a new nurse, but when I was I was lucky and no one ate me. The older folks, treated me well and I transitioned from school to nurse with the normal stresses and insecurities, but never felt like anyone was mean or catty. This is also what I see where I work.

    I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with the experienced nurses eating their young. I hope you can look beyond the presumed hositility and learn something about not being eaten and not generalizing the entire profession, if not, leave it in the trash can. Also, I encourage you to remember what you said in your original post, that they were supportive. It's easy to feel support 90% and focus on the 10% of the time someone isn't supportive. If it's truly a toxic environment, full of mean nurses mistreating you, that you can't handle, then it's time to leave
    Last edit by Tweety on Apr 2, '07
  11. by   SueBee RN-BSN
    Every single nurse in this fourm has been eaten, and has eaten. Most are shamed to admit it. Abuse is a cycle, and we all know it.

    Stand up for yourself, and teach nurses to become strong together. If some nurses refuse to follow, or lead others to a better profession, well, tell them lead, follow or get out of the way. It's really that simple-
  12. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from SueBee RN-BSN
    Every single nurse in this fourm has been eaten, and has eaten. Most are shamed to admit it. Abuse is a cycle, and we all know it.

    No, my dear, much of what gets labeled "eating'" is not abuse but miscommunication, constructive criticism taken wrong, or oversensitive feelings.

    While there is definitely some abuse in healthcare, it is not the pervasive ill that you perceive it to be. And it is just as prevalent in most other professions. But quite a bit of "eating" really isn't.

    Please do ascribe what YOU feel to all of the rest of us. Not "every single" ever really is.
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    ok . . . there is another long thread that alot of us posted responses to about the stereotype of "nurses" eating their young plus there are many other threads about this as well.

    many of us reject the stereotype that "nurses" eat their young. i myself believe that there are jerks/bullies in all walks of life.

    just since that recent thread, there has been a series of articles in the news regarding office bullies. there is a bestselling book called "the no a$$hole rule".

    http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2006/10/...ve_to_lov.html

    some of the clues you are dealing with a bully or arsehole:

    1. personal insults
    2. invading one's personal territory
    3. uninvited personal contact
    4. threats and intimidation, both verbal and non-verbal
    5. sarcastic jokes and teasing used as insult delivery systems
    6. withering email flames
    7. status slaps intended to humiliate their victims
    8. public shaming or status degradation rituals
    9. rude interruptions
    10. two-faced attacks
    11. dirty looks
    12. treating people as if they are invisible

    now, come on folks . . . . these people are sprinkled throughout our lives in every single solitary career choice that there has been on earth since time began.

    steph

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