late d-cels, but good variability

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I wanted to see your opinions on this matter. I had a pt last night that was a G1P0 at 41 wks being induced for oligo, the order was prostin gel x2 then pitocin in the AM, well right off the bat, just about every ctx yielded a late d-cel, HOWEVER, IVF bolus and turning the pt resolved the lates for a period of time, of course I contacted the dr, and we switched from the prostin induction after washing it out to low-dose pit, the pattern resolved, had excellent reactivity and average variablity, the pt was not favorable in the least, 2/20/-3 SO, after a while the lates came back, IVF bolus PIT Off, and turning the pt, they resolved, called the dr again, she came and looked at the pattern it was GREAT, after a while, AGAIN with the lates, all the while having average variability responded to scalp stim, etc......I dealt with this pattern all night long, never turning the pit back on knowing full well she'd be cut in the AM. So i left around 7:30am after giving report and came back the next night to see what happened, she continued having lates off and on throughout the am and about 9 they made the decision to proceed with the section, apgars 2,8. and that night baby went to NICU for fast breathing, and a gunky looking x-ray, mom was GBS pos, treated with AB's, and light mec noted at delivery, ANYWAY, it was just a very strange questionable pattern that gave me a headache and I charted my butt off all night long, meanwhile trying to reassure the mom and family about what was going on and warning them about needing a c-section.....I doubt doing the c-section would have made a difference earlier, but still makes ya wonder....it wasn't the kind of pattern that needed immediate c-section, but still....anway, what do you all think?? Shelley

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Yea I have this saying when I precept or orient newcomers:

*Expect the absolute worst scenario; HOPE for the best. *

I live by this in OB and "pretend" the kid coming is my "worst-case scenario" because I have seen them come out after a PERFECT strip, 9/9 apgars, CRUMP on me! Ya have to be CAREFUL!

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Sure it's true we never know of the outcome, but if that baby has any problems down the road and the strip with all the persistant lates gets in court , the lawyers will have a field day. Consistant lates mean placental insufficiency, mec shows stress, as we all know, and they would play that to death in court. It's about CYA and it sounds like you did it well, but most docs would have sectioned her in the night to do the same.

All this just goes to verify what ACOG has said about EFM not improving outcomes, apgars, etc. Sometimes I wish I practiced in the days before monitors....on second thought NOT!! but we do have to recognize the limitations of EFM.

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All this just goes to verify what ACOG has said about EFM not improving outcomes, apgars, etc. Sometimes I wish I practiced in the days before monitors....on second thought NOT!! but we do have to recognize the limitations of EFM.

I feel the same way! efm is good but has limits, the bad thing is it records everything and if the strip looks bad and the baby ends up bad because we decided to give it a try. the lawers could careless of the reason:(

the cervical exam of the patient makes a BIG difference to me when I see those kind of FHR patterns!

2/50/-3.....that is gonna be one tired fetus by the time it delivers lady partslly!

8/90/-1.....OK, I'll watch it for a while and stay on my toes, and worry...and educate pt about what will happen if suddenly a c/s is called...so we don't scare the begeebers out of her! LOL!

Haze :cool:

we use fetal pulse ox about 30% of all ? strips. seems to make people a little more tolerant of iffy strips. if the babe is below 30 and stays there for over 10 minutes it usually is time to move. forceps, c/s, mitvac, kiwi, what ever. abg's also have shown us that the pulse ox also is pretty good at corolating what is really happening with that kid. we only use it on term kiddos, 36 wks and up. have tried with preterms but the senor is not designed for those smaller heads.

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