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Specializes in IMCU.

Gosh I am having a little vent here.

I cannot believe how many times people post assignments on this site expecting answers, sometimes even getting them, when they have shown no attempt at the assignment themselves. What gives?

How do you know people haven't attempted. As in all areas of life; if you can't do it, find someone who can.

If I can't fix my air conditioner I'll call someone that knows how, and I'm not going to rattle off over the phone what I've already done to it.

I'm not guilty of your complaint, but I don't think it's a big deal when people come on here that are in need of help answering questions.

Specializes in Utilization Management.
How do you know people haven't attempted. As in all areas of life; if you can't do it, find someone who can.

If I can't fix my air conditioner I'll call someone that knows how, and I'm not going to rattle off over the phone what I've already done to it.

I'm not guilty of your complaint, but I don't think it's a big deal when people come on here that are in need of help answering questions.

I think DolceVita is referring to the students who take the time to type out entire case studies, along with the questions that need answers, and instead of showing any kind of thought process, just say "If anyone could answer these for me, I would reeeeeeeeeeally appreciate it! Thanks!" There's a difference between needing help and trying to get your homework done for you.

Specializes in Infusion.

I agree with DolceVita although I think posters can post whatever they want to, they may not get an answer to their questions. I have my own homework to do without trying to figure out what some instructor at another institution wants from her students.

I believe, as long as the answer is found, the source doesn't matter.

What is the difference if one reads it in a book, finds it on a search engine or asks a human being?

However, I do think that before the student expects others to give up their time to assist, the student should put in an honest effort.

Some posters are obviously putting in zero effort.

If others wish to answer, well then that's their business. I'm not about to rip on anyone for being helpful when they have the time.

Specializes in Critical Care.

You'll often see responses that ask for what the student has so far when responding to a homework question post. I'm all for asking for a student's contribution first, but chiding a student for not asking a question in your preferred format isn't helpful. Many questions relate to what Nursing Diagnoses to choose. If a student just wanted an answer, they could easily find it by opening any Nursing Diagnosis book and looking up "hemicolectomy" which would then give them the ND's associated with that procedure. The reason why student's ask that question here rather than the just using the easy way of doing it, is usually because they want to understand why that is the best answer, which shouldn't be discouraged.

I've yet to see a student who didn't provide their work when asked, so just ask. Asking questions without providing their own thoughts isn't the worst that can happen, not asking the questions at all is what we need to worry about, so lets make sure we don't discourage them from doing so.

I have actually, had to rethink my position on those who ask for homework help.

I used to be much more judgmental, but I did finally come to the conclusion that, as long as the information is learned, the source doesn't matter.

I do believe my past annoyance was just me being arrogant and insecure.

I'm more relaxed these days... ":eek:"

I believe, as long as the answer is found, the source doesn't matter.

What is the difference if one reads it in a book, finds it on a search engine or asks a human being?

The source of the answer is very significant. Particularly when pertinent to information you will use to guide your clinical practice. Personally, I don't want to be using other people's answers in my clinical practice if they aren't from an up-to-date, evidence-based source. & I doubt patient's will want you using information you got from a stranger on the internet to guide how you will care for them without validating it first.

Specializes in Critical Care.
The source of the answer is very significant. Particularly when pertinent to information you will use to guide your clinical practice. Personally, I don't want to be using other people's answers in my clinical practice if they aren't from an up-to-date, evidence-based source. & I doubt patient's will want you using information you got from a stranger on the internet to guide how you will care for them without validating it first.

I agree that information should be up to date and evidence based, which is why it's so important that students look outside of Nursing school textbooks and curriculum. When new information becomes known, on average it takes 7 years for that information to make it to a textbook. And that's assuming that the authors make the effort to update the information. I learned a valuable lesson in nursing school that was a direct result of referring to sources outside of the standard Nursing School sources. My main textbook states that Nurses should be aware that a shellfish allergy usually means a iodine allergy as well. This was a myth that had been de-bunked more than 20 years before the textbook was published, the lesson I learned was to be critical of all information I come across.

Rather than limiting a student's exposure to information, it's extremely important to encourage as much exposure as possible, since there is no single source for all information and how current or evidence based information is can vary widely from the same source. Using a wide variety of sources, and learning how to grade and evaluate the information by experience, is a key element to a good Nursing education.

The source of the answer is very significant. Particularly when pertinent to information you will use to guide your clinical practice. Personally, I don't want to be using other people's answers in my clinical practice if they aren't from an up-to-date, evidence-based source. & I doubt patient's will want you using information you got from a stranger on the internet to guide how you will care for them without validating it first.

I agree, as well. I was stating that it didn't matter where the information came from. I did not mention it had to be evidence-based, up-to-date and accurate, because I assumed we were all well aware of that fact.

I should have taken more time with my post, no doubt.

Specializes in Private Practice- wellness center.

Sometimes it's the "OMG HELP ME!" questions that end up being really helpful for a LOT of others too though. For instance, last semester during med-surg I could NOT get electrolyte balances to save my ever-loving LIFE! It happened to be a 6 year old thread that was randomly bumped that finally gave me my a-ha moment with it. From appearances, the person hadn't done their homework first either. HOWEVER, upon being asked, they were able to provide their own thoughts and why it was they weren't understanding the material. :D

I hate it when its people in the actual classes......"Can I see your lab book?" "Do you have the answer to this?" "What did you get for um 15-35?"

grrrrr.....

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