PASSING THE CPNE: tips from my experience - page 11
well, i thought this thread might stick around a bit longer if the title was more obvious. so, i am posting my cpne experience here instead of "anticoag nurse passed the cpne"... i'll start with... Read More
Mar 9, '09hi there...Im kinda new to this whole website...and I would like a copy of youre experience passing your CPNE if you still have them available..I just dont have a clue as to how to PM you. thanks...any help would be greatly appreciated...I test 5/29 and I sooooooooooo wanna pass!
Mar 23, '09I failed the cpne in Mansfield, Ohio March 20, 2009. The CA and CE (with the exception of one that made me kind of nervous) were all really good and professional, but my lack of good careplanning got me failed, plus my nerves were shot. I'm a guy, and I was tore up after failing the second PCS!!
My advice would be not to wait to take conferences as soon as you can. My plan was to wait until they gave me a confirmation date and then take the care plan conference, which I thought might be my weakest point. But they gave me a date in late Februry of 2009, just four weeks away!! There was now no time to take those conferences. And in the end, my lack of good and nerves got me failed. I'm not blaming anyone but myself, but I really think that Excelsior fails out perfectly good nurses in some cases. Failing has really shaken my confidence in myself, even thought I have been recognized by my hospital for outstanding patient care before. Don't know if I will have the will (or money for that matter!) to try this again. Might see if I can arrange something through my local college. If you don't have an outgoing personality, and deal with stress very well, you might not ever want to attempt to get your degree this way. I will find a way somehow.
Mar 23, '09So sorry to hear what happened but your history shows that you have outstanding patient care so hold on to that and don't let this rattle your cage. I know easier said than done. You know what to do now and know what is your weakness so take time to get yourself back together and go forward again. Work on thoseand documentation until you can do them backwards and forwards and then tackle it when you are ready.
Prayers are with you and you WILL FIND A WAY!!!
Mar 23, '09This is a great website for support in successfully passing your CPNE. I passed almost 2 years ago after many posts on this site, planning, stress, studying, etc. (You know the drill!)
To PM someone, go to their blue section and next to Registered User click the icon with the pencil...you are limited to 25 or so ims...
best of luck to both of you! YOU CAN DO IT, AND YOU CAN DO WELL!!! Best of luck!!! :wink2:
Mar 25, '09Don't give up and don't waste the time and money you've already invested. You already know what areas to work on, and unfortunately, Excelsior's nursing classes won't transfer. You can do it, people do it all the time!!! DO NOT GIVE UP!
Apr 24, '09Quote from rvhnoblesvilleini failed the cpne in mansfield, ohio march 20, 2009. the ca and ce (with the exception of one that made me kind of nervous) were all really good and professional, but my lack of good careplanning got me failed, plus my nerves were shot. i'm a guy, and i was tore up after failing the second pcs!!
my advice would be not to wait to take conferences as soon as you can. my plan was to wait until they gave me a confirmation date and then take the care plan conference, which i thought might be my weakest point. but they gave me a date in late februry of 2009, just four weeks away!! there was now no time to take those conferences. and in the end, my lack of good care plans and nerves got me failed. i'm not blaming anyone but myself, but i really think that excelsior fails out perfectly good nurses in some cases. failing has really shaken my confidence in myself, even thought i have been recognized by my hospital for outstanding patient care before. don't know if i will have the will (or money for that matter!) to try this again. might see if i can arrange something through my local college. if you don't have an outgoing personality, and deal with stress very well, you might not ever want to attempt to get your degree this way. i will find a way somehow.
give yourself time to regroup. i'm preparing for my third victorious attempt!
i will be practicing an entire pcs every morning, timed from planning to eval phase. i'm joing to use one of those obnoxious clock alarms :crash: . my house alarm would be perfect if i could put it on a timer, just to recreate a sense of impending doom and learn to become immune to it, focus only on my performance.
the care plans really can be simple, once you know how to "see" what they "give" you to make one, or "see" what's there if the pt condition changes. i went to two different workshops but won't advertise, fftopic:although i will say i prefer warm weather, the sound of the ocean and a golden bridge.
as far as the outgoing personality, i'm not naturally outgoing. however, i do get the impression that nursing instructors in general, regardless of school, are looking for assertiveness. this is key when it comes to the pcs, they don't want to see a first day or even third year student of a four year program. i think the ce's actually look forward to your asking them "would you please assist me in ___fill in the blank ___" as if they were a cna not a ce. i get the impression they don't need "outgoing", they simply need to see "in charge" first day nurse ready to work with a primary nurse, a patient, and a cna....a confident team player who knows their "position".....assertiveness. you can be a nervous wreck and shy and still be assertive. i have a couple of gals that can watch me occasionally. i plan on "bossing" them around, "hey you, yeah you....don't just stand there help me lift this pt up in bed" hah, just joking, you would certainly ask your ce respectfully (or anyone else for that matter). perhaps you could find someone to wear a white coat with ce on it and ask them to help you with cna tasks as you do a mock pcs. then they could alternate helping with standing back to scowl, making monosylabic "hmmm's" or throat clears x 3, while looking at the ce list (in the back of your cardex.)
i certainly understand your grief, and would not judge you if you went to another school, this is no easy test. but....you do have one more shot at it. i won't give mine up.
now 2 more things. why is this with the smilies, does anyone else find it disturbing or is it just me? ..okaaay?
second, would some of the e-grads do us cpne hopefuls a favor and post reasons or better yet scenarios as to when/why one would inv. c_d-m. this would be priceless!!!! tia
Apr 28, '09i would appreciate it, if you emailed me your experience and tips. all info to me is valuable! :bowingpur
Apr 29, '09Quote from anurse2byou can find lots of experiences & tips here in the distance learning forum. you may want to start with the stickies at the top of the page.i would appreciate it, if you emailed me your experience and tips. all info to me is valuable! :bowingpur
Apr 29, '09I would love any and all resources you can send on CPNE! I am planning on finishing at EC! Your post about the CPNE is awesome.
Jun 24, '09Congratulations for passing!!!
I would really appreciate help/tips on how to pass cpne.
Thank you!Last edit by traumaRUs on Jun 24, '09 : Reason: Please don't include email addys in your posts. Thanks.
Aug 26, '09Hi would love your notes to help pass cpne. Failed in Plano first time. champagne bubbles in IV push
Thanks TeriLast edit by EricJRN on Aug 27, '09 : Reason: email in post
Aug 27, '09Great info! Please send me your entire experience, how you studyed, any outside study plans used. I am about to test for NC7 and complete my application for CPNE. Current wait time is 5 months, which makes my time to test around Feb. You are an angel and I will apply your advice
Aug 27, '09I passed the CPNE 7/30 in Racine, Wisconsin. I'm sharing my experience with you, not because I necessarily recommend you do things the way I did them, but so you'll know it can be done.
I became eligible in Oct. 2008, and after calling the MPAC, I received a date of 3/20. My father was hospitalized & unexpectedly scheduled for open heart surgery on that same day. Even though he asked me to go I cancelled. I wasn't charged anything to cancel because of the circumstances.
After a 7 week hospital stay, my father passed away. I had tried to study throughout but hadn't scheduled a new date because his condition remained so unstable.
I got an email that because of the long wait time, EC was scheduling mid-week CPNE's so I called the MPAC again and asked for Mansfield, OH, because it's closer, and I could drive. I would have waited until Sept. so I just asked for the first available, and there was a mid-week in Racine on 7/28-7/30. I took it.
I again started to study. I looked for workshops, and found only one that I could attend, that was Lynn Frederick's, held in Memphis the weekend before my CPNE. I also purchased and downloaded Rob's CPNE videos. Let me say this about that: Both were very helpful in taking the fear of the unknown out of the CPNE for me. Even though I could read about it, having someone go through a mock situation, gave me a much better idea of how to handle myself. Lynn's workshop also spent a great deal of time on care planning, and I didn't have one single problem with any of my care plans.
So, I'm studying. On July 4th, I get a call at 4 am that my 17 year old nephew has been in a bad car accident, I woke my children, drove to the hospital, and he died about 8 hours later. My sister-in-law sometime during the next week told me she did not want me to cancel this time, and even though I felt sure I would fail, I honored her wishes. I kept trying to study, kept trying to learn the mneumonics.
I went to Lynn's workshop, and after introducing myself and telling about my situation, everyone, Lynn included, looked at me with shock, and wished me luck, which is exactly how I felt. I even panicked and called EC and spoke to an advisor, who told me that I would forfeit all monies paid if I cancelled, so I might as well go ahead, and if I failed, then I'd know what to expect the next time.
So off I go. I fly to Milwaukee the day before, get picked up by the Marriott shuttle, and meet a fellow CPNE'er. This is her 2nd attempt. She has all sorts of practice things for the labs set up in her room & invites me to come and practice with her. I do, we watch & critique each other, and we both made it through the labs with no repeats.
I get my assignment for the next day, go back to the hotel and write out my care plan. I get to the hospital the next day, and my patient has been changed and I start all over again. It worked out fine, passed the 1st adult PCS. I was assigned mobility to ambulate in hall x1, abdominal assessment, patient teaching on abdominal assessment, & medications. The CE gives the meds and has you wait in the hall while she does at Racine. The meds are locked in a cabinet just outside the room, you pull those based on the MAR, compare & check & give them to her. No complications with the PCS.
The next patient is my ped's patient, adult substitute. I failed this one in the 1st 20 minutes. Stupid mistake, I was assigned respiratory management, I put a towel in the emesis basin, handed it to the patient, instructed her to take 3 deep breaths then cough, she did, beautiful sputum sample, I then started to listen to the lungs, and was told "can I see you in the hall?" Yikes! The CE tells me to wait, she goes to get the CA and she askes me if I know what I did wrong. I think it's because I listened to the lungs over the gown, but it's because I didn't listen to the lungs before AND after the deep breathing exercise. Nothing left to do but go back to the hotel & get ready for the next day.
A patient change again, because my patient was going to be gone for a test then discharged. So I start over, and this one went fine, except that I almost ran out of time. The patient had a leg injury, had surgery, and was NWB on that leg. He didn't want to get oob but had to to use the restroom. He had figured out a way to do it himself that was less painful, so he didn't want any help, but it took him awhile. He was very pleasant, easy to work with, and other than getting nervous about the time, everything went well, and I passed.
Next and last, my ped's repeat, again an adult sub, a 98 yr. old lady, deaf, CHF. My assignments were i/o since she was on fluid restriction, easy because she didn't eat or drink anything, and had a foley catheter. Skin assessment, assigned to check bilat legs, 2nd area I chose was the occiput. Reposition x1 but she was up in the chair & didn't want to go back to bed, didn't want a pillow behind her back, I finally used the trashcan with a blanket as a makeshift stool & elevated her feet. I was finished in almost 30 minutes.
With each PCS that I passed, there were little things that were brought to my attention to correct. I never in any way felt that the CE's or the CA wanted anything for me but success. Beth is the only one whose name I remember, she was the CA, but she was delightful. Now, having said that, these people are not there to teach you, they are there to observe that you are capable of performing at the level of a 1st day new grad RN. The stress of the pass/fail aspect of the CPNE is the price we pay to be able to do this program at our own pace without 2 years of clinicals.
I was never able to memorize the mneumonics, but in trying I memorized the critical elements. Make a grid and check it often. If you think you missed something, say it, then do it, and you're ok as long as you haven't handed in your care plan. Even if you left the room, you can ask to go back in and finish as long as you have time. Check the ID band frequently. Never hurts, can't do it too much. Also gel your hands frequently, can't hurt, can't do it too much. You only wash hands once before you enter the room the 1st time. Stay calm. One thing Lynn recommended was that you use guided imagery for a comfort measure, it only takes a few minutes and it can help calm you down as well as meet a goal.
Nothing I did was complicated. No one I talked to that weekend had any complicated patients or assigned areas of care. There were 7 of us, 3 were repeating, and 4 passed. 2 of us passed on the 1st try. I've been a LPN for 6 years and work on a med/surg floor in a hospital.
I am scheduled for my degree conferral on 9/18, and then onto the boards.
I'm open to any questions!