Any ADN-BSN programs without ridiculous papers?

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Do we need to segragate those who when to "good" programs from thse nurses who went to "bad" programs?

You know Harvard is probably accredited by the same organization as Ole Miss. Totally different education.

PMFB-RN, RN

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You know Harvard is probably accredited by the same organization as Ole Miss. Totally different education.

Probably. What is your point? I don't understand what you are saying with that comment

Stacey30

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No offense, but if you don't want to do the work, don't pursue nursing. Period. I completed an ADN program and I had to write a group concept analysis that was 35 pages long and comprised 20% of our grade in the class. We hated it, but we busted our butts on it and got an A. Nursing requires both written and verbal communication skills, especially if you intend to further your education and hold some type of leadership role down the road. And the best place to hone those communication skills is in college.

So for you, an example of concept analysis would be What is the effect of caring on patient outcomes, or what is the effect of trust on the nurse-patient relationship? Keep in mind that this type of paper requires critical thinking in order to complete, and critical thinking is the foundation of the nursing process. I hope this helps.

morte, LPN, LVN

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It might have been more helpful if you hadn't started off by being insulting.....

No offense, but if you don't want to do the work, don't pursue nursing. Period. I completed an ADN program and I had to write a group concept analysis that was 35 pages long and comprised 20% of our grade in the class. We hated it, but we busted our butts on it and got an A. Nursing requires both written and verbal communication skills, especially if you intend to further your education and hold some type of leadership role down the road. And the best place to hone those communication skills is in college.

So for you, an example of concept analysis would be What is the effect of caring on patient outcomes, or what is the effect of trust on the nurse-patient relationship? Keep in mind that this type of paper requires critical thinking in order to complete, and critical thinking is the foundation of the nursing process. I hope this helps.

chrysdamian

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I am currently pursuing my Master's in Psych nursing and it has been nothing but papers....I HATE PAPERS. Give me a test any day. I don't feel like they do much to teach you how to really be a nurse or an NP. That being said paper requirements are not going anywhere. If you want to advance in this field, it is something you will have to put up with. And a 6-8 page paper is nothing! I actually think it sounds like a pretty BS, easy assignment. You have several degrees, you must have written a lot of papers in your other programs. Hang in and finish what you started.[/quote']

Where are you taking a masters in psych? I've been looking for a program that offers that.

chrysdamian

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6-8 pages is nothing. First page: title page. Second page: intro. Third page and so on: find quotes from other sources and be sure to site them. You will actually only end up with 1-2 pages of original work. Last page is your reference page.

No. Big. Deal. I had a professor who when she was working on her thesis tell me her professor said "no one wants to read what you think, they want what to read what the experts think"

Maybe being challenged is what you need, challenges show us what we a capable of. Sometimes these assignments are meant to weed out people who are serious about their education from those that want to just skate through the program with minimal effort.

Sometimes the assignments are to test you to see if you will comply and follow direction. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the oil, it sometimes gets replaced. There is always another student ready and willing to take your place

corgimomRN

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I had to write several small papers and a 32 page minimum epidemiology paper for my BSN. It really isn't fun and there is no way around it.

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nursel56

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No offense, but if you don't want to do the work, don't pursue nursing. Period. I completed an ADN program and I had to write a group concept analysis that was 35 pages long and comprised 20% of our grade in the class.

I think it's a little different when someone is already a nurse (he is an ADN) so it's likely he has some familiarity with the foundations of the nursing process, concepts of caring and trust, although possibly not how those two things affect patient outcomes. Perhaps someday someone will figure out a way to measure that.

42346_nurse_

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Nursing is full of things you do that you didn't want to or see their value. It's based on research based evidence.

I trust the evidence says it is done this way.

Besides if we want to be a "profession" and not a trade we do the traditional work.

I've learned much more in Lit classes than Lit. Perseverance!

Anyway, my two cents.

PMFB-RN, RN

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Nursing is full of things you do that you didn't want to or see their value. It's based on research based evidence.

I trust the evidence says it is done this way.

*** Oh how I wish that were true for nursing education! Realiety is far different.

marick_RN

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Thank you Tiffy_RN. I was just about to post regarding how my fear of writing papers is keeping me from pursuing my BSN. I was the frazzled college student sitting @ my desk @ 3am a paper due the next day and a ream of crumpled paper and empty coffee cups surrounding her. ( Yeah...I am from the typewriter era..lol) I way over think the whole process and then get totally overwhelmed. And procrastination...that is my first name!! My plan after I graduated from a ASN nursing program was to work for a year and then go back to school. Bad plan!! Life got in the way and here I am 27 years later contemplating going back to school to get my BSN . I missed the boat 25 years ago when a group of nurses I was working with did an 18 month BSN program. Being a new mom at the time I didn't think I could swing it. Boy, do I regret that decision now.

whealer

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Okay, I'm in my pre-nursing stage so I'm not going to make any assumptions about the level of difficulty in either the ADN programs (which I'm currently enrolled in) or BSN/MSN (which I do hope to obtain).

Really, though? I know I'm beating a dead horse but the OP, and everyone else who agrees with OP, is making too big a deal out of a paper that is broad enough to address concepts (not just words) in a way that makes sense to you and is essential to patient care. If it's really that bad, just discuss with the professor. I bugged my Professor whenever I could to explain certain projects. I did research and would walk a fine line between putting my best effort and not overthinking the content.

I obtained a Bachelors in Forensic Psychology and had to write hundreds of pages of papers not only for my core psych courses, but for other liberal arts courses - history, english, etc. I also tutored other students with their writing papers so feel free to send me a private message if you need assistance. We all hate certain aspects of education and will find a million reasons (or excuses) to make it seem like it's all BS. But what it comes down to is your perception and your approach. No one is forcing you to enroll in a program that is at its foundation about theory and research, which is just another facet of the technical and clinical approaches to nursing. It's the same with Psych, and I'm sure it's the same for any other role in which you're interacting with people and improving their health and well-being. No college program will ever teach you to be a better nurse; they give you the tools that you need to develop your own personal talents and skills. Take what you need and put the rest in your back pocket.

When I went to school, because I took the time to put a little bit more effort into my papers and researching what I learned, there were several occasions when I had to point out errors that professors (mostly adjunct) had made when they taught psych theory. Knowledge is power, my friends. It can't hurt to be open to it. :cat:

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