Two-thirds of nursing students believe it's wrong to lie to patients - page 2
two-thirds of nursing students believe it's wrong to lie to ... eurekalert (press release), dc - 16 minutes ago "older nursing students may also be more mature and independent in their opinions... Read More
Feb 11, '07Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: 8 year(s) of experience in med/surg/tele/neuro ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '05; Posts: 1,842; Likes: 665I would never tell a child that it's not going to hurt before giving him an injection. I used to tell my son that his shots were going to hurt but that it would be over quick. I don't believe in lying and I always thought the people giving him his immunizations thought I was crazy :chuckle
White lies don't count in my opinion either.
Feb 11, '07Occupation: Graduate Registered Nurse Specialty: acute medical ; Joined: Oct '06; Posts: 172; Likes: 13I don't think this statement re: lying just applies to students. I hate to be in the situation where a patient is being investigated for a condition and the medical/surgical team have decided not to tell them. And sometimes saying "talk to the doctors" is not enough as some really get worried ... understandably. I find that once you try to avoid the situation, even if you are not lying, your words can come back on you. For example, they may start questioning you on the medication they are receiving, and if it is related to the condition they are not being told about then what do you do? "Ask the doctor"? What if say they are passing blood PR and the team don't want to tell them why. How do you explain that? Or if some other staff member. placed in the same situation you are in, tells them something different? Great way to promote a relationship with your patients. I do say "ask your doctor" because I don't like lies, but it is really hard, because you have the knowledge the patient wants, the patient knows you have that knowledge, and you won't tell them
Feb 11, '07Specialty: L&D, medsurg,hospice,sub-acute ; Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 109; Likes: 50Lying about what people need for 'informed decision making' is absolutely wrong. As is lying to them about other things going on in their family--had an issues where an alert, oriented 78 year old guy wanted to know why his wife wasn't visiting, when she was in the hospital, and his family thought it was 'too much stress for him'---like that's their right--to steal his opportunity to pray for her, or say his last goodbye---when he asked me at 2am, because he knew he was getting the run around from his family--I told him the truth--they are not my boss or patient--he was grateful, and able to at least call his wife to deal with his worries....
But do I lie to my patients--all the time-- the ones who are confused at night--
yes, your daughter will be in after lunch (like I know)
yes, your cat is fine, or I'll lock the doors and let the dog out
yes, you can get on the bus and go to work/school in the morning--after breakfast
yes, I'll take care of the baby.....
Whatever keeps confused people at peace and safe in the darkest, least staffed hours works for me---they don't hold onto it by morning, and they can get some rest....
It is not so much about the specifics of the lie, but in the intent......
What get me nuts is that we are not allowed--as in get written up for--telling the patient the truth about staffing issues (like why it took an extra 15 minutes longer than last night to get your call bell answered)--I can live with not saying we are working at half staff, but why can't we--when the alert and oriented ones ask--- tell them, there is this many staff to take care of this many patients, and I was in another room??? The intent there is to protect the facility over a healthy working pt/nurse relationship--many patients are sympathetic, understanding, and aprreciate the knowledge that some nights they need to call earlier for things than other nights--