Support worker charged after a residents death - page 2

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  1. by   sunkissed75
    Moogie.... that is exactly what I meant about the catch 22.... sometimes you can't win no matter what you do!

  2. by   wooh
    I was a CNA before I was a nurse. Many a night with 60 patients and just two nurses and two aides. For those with a 1:9 CNA ratio, see how easy it is to get help when you've got a 1:30 ratio, and THEN feel free to judge.
  3. by   boogalina
    Yikes, that is a crazy ratio! Not judging...all I'm saying is, I know that if something happened, all the fingers would point at the CNA...just how things are. Not worth losing one's license or <<shudder>> going to jail for..
  4. by   Trulibra
    "almost 60% of adults ages 18 and over, or 14.1 million canadians, are overweight or obese.
    almost one quarter of canadian adults ages 18 and over (23% or 5.5 million) are obese, and an additional 36% are overweight. 32
    53% of canadian women ages 18 and over are overweight or obese. 32
    a greater proportion of sedentary adults, especially women, are overweight or obese, compared to active adults."

    now add these statistics to the baby boomers that are now going to enter nursing homes. hence we see a lot more people entering the ltc, overweight and obese. hence; we need to use lifts.

    so combine the fact; the aging population + obesity

    i bet they didn't see that coming.

    hence: more lifts are being used now because of an aging population that is now more obese.

    we are already losing a battle with not enough workers at the front line for ltc; look at the picture when we see more obese seniors.


    since i went back to school, after being a psw, i have seen the difference. where we used to have maybe one or two lifts per worker we are now seeing 5-6 lifts per worker. this means that they will need 2 people for each resident. so, the ratio of 1:9..... with 4-6 being lift required.... hmmm..... definately slows down the front line worker having to look for help with the lift!

    ratio should be set at 1:5

    if i was a ltc ceo............ i would look at the big picture. so where is the government in this? we need more front line workers; end of statement. we need more funding now. (where did all the money go?) add to this: unemployment insurance being changed years ago to employment insurance. (they made billions off of this as fewer claims could be made with the new change: where did that money go?)

    i do not blame the front line worker at all in this case. the fact remains; all are involved in this from the front line worker right to the very top. all phases need to be inspected: and believe me the most devious of people are able to cover up their butts....maybe not so in the front line worker who is working directly with the public and is compassionate, caring and honest. might not have the means or the know how to cover up; and is put on the hot plate. no, i believe this needs to be fixed; do not blame the worker - blame the process in place. if impossible to do then fix it! we all know its a problem and it needs to be fixed before more and more people are hurt.

    so look at the picture that is set.

    more seniors are overweight
    more will be entering ltc
    more lifts will be the required
    more front line workers are needed (double whammy: the aging population and obesity)

    nothing has been done to accommodate this fact (due to lack of funding and planning)

    funding should of been accumulating 50 years ago to plan for this; what happened?

    we all know people are living longer; what happened?

    costs have gone up; living expenses have gone up; wages have remained the same (workers work now 2 to 3 jobs just to have an income) - leaving a population that has to rely on fast foods instead of the more expensive healthy foods - diabetes? heart disease? obesity?


    okay, problem established...what were we talking about?

    oh yeah.....the poor worker that had to use a lift by themselves due to lack of support ........
    (lack of support wasn't just from the co-workers, it was from all of us!)


    just my

    end note: hey guess what? if these homes can't support the people; due to lack of funding - they end up going belly up? then what? where do we put the people? at home with loved ones who are working more hours just to feed themselves? big picture needs to be fixed now ...... how do we fix this as a population?

    so see, it really isn't the workers fault; but an eye opener!
  5. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quote from wooh
    I was a CNA before I was a nurse. Many a night with 60 patients and just two nurses and two aides. For those with a 1:9 CNA ratio, see how easy it is to get help when you've got a 1:30 ratio, and THEN feel free to judge.
    I worked in an LTC with 60 beds on 2 floors. Night staff consisted of 1 nurse and 1 aide. Never, ever again.
  6. by   Moogie
    Quote from wooh
    I was a CNA before I was a nurse. Many a night with 60 patients and just two nurses and two aides. For those with a 1:9 CNA ratio, see how easy it is to get help when you've got a 1:30 ratio, and THEN feel free to judge.
    The sad thing is, those who often do the judging have little to do with patient care. They don't understand that 1:30 or 1:60 ratios can be dangerous. They don't work the floors or, worse, they hide in their offices at work and rarely venture out. They look at the numbers rather than at the human element.
  7. by   kids
    Two pages of assumptions regarding staffing at the facility when the bottom line is she failed to report the fall.

    As a result of her inaction a patient who couldn't communicate what had happened to her suffered with an untreated broken broken leg for 3 days and eventually died of it. How different the outcome would have been if the caregiver had reported the fall and taken her lumps is hard to say. Perhaps the patient would have died anyway but at least she would have received immediate care rather than suffering in silence.

    The whys of her transferring the patient alone are immaterial. Her reporting the fall would likely at worst resulted in her being terminated, failing to report the fall is what elevated what happened to criminal.
  8. by   HisTreasure
    That's so sad! I agree with the others who questioned: what was the staffing on this day? What type of unit was it? What type of day? WHERE are the care plans kept? I've worked in enough LTC facilities to know that having the staff ton properly ambulated ler the care card is often a luxury. On dementia units, where the majority of reside ts are full assist or 2-person transfer it is almost u heard of to be able to ambulate as per written. Impossible. It doesn't menthe staff or the facility is necessarily negligent, there's just not enough hands to go around, especially at meal and med time. Throw in the agitated residents or the sun-downers and you really have a lot of care to filter between maybe 4-6 staff members. Not criminal- reality. It's sad, but real.

    I've also worked agency in some facilities that were staffed 85% agency, both nurses and CNAs. The CNAs didn't know where the care cards were even kept and so the agency nurse would just read out what was on the report sheet and improvise from there. Or the care sheets were outdated...