Staffs full, nurses struggle for work - page 4

The media seems to be catching on... When Katharine Barron enrolled in Boston College's school of nursing in 2005, everyone - family, friends, college officials - assured her hospitals would be... Read More

  1. by   oramar
    Quote from LIjeany
    here on long island,ny, the sunday newsday used to have at least 2 1/2 pages of health care opportunity jobs, mostly for nurses, now it's maybe a 1/4 to 1/2 page with very little nursing jobs within, i am a 53 year old rn, and have been told, "why should we hire you when we have so many young nurses applying" my last few job interviewers told me they were amazed at the large number of nurses applying, there is a large influx in this area of young nurses from the phillipines and haiti, which is great but in the long run, it's driving older nurses out of their jobs, several large facilities have gotten rid of senior nurse in favor of younger nurses at less pay. it's kind of sad to put over 20 years into a career and see it thrown into the gutter by one corporation that is taking over every health care facility on long island.
    If I was a experienced nurse who suddenly lost a job that was then turned over to a non-citizen I would be very disturbed. Are you sure this is happening? If it is there people need to be complaining very loudly to their representatives in Congress. I can't believe New Yorkers would take a thing like that lying down.
    Last edit by oramar on Apr 20, '09
  2. by   LIjeany
    it's happening all over long island, north shore lij health care system is taking over every health care facility on long island, and putting in cheap labor, and kicking out senior nurses and workers, this monopoly of north shore lij could not be happening without ny state politicians aware of it it, they are complacent, one suffolk county prosecutor with the blessing of a ny senator was going after about 15 rns from the phillipines for not accepting slave labor from santosa corporation at avalon gardens in smithtown ny, the rns finally won their case with the help of the new york state nursing board
  3. by   LIjeany
    there is no nursing shortage, this country has allowed so many nurses from the phillipines and haiti that work for cheap wages, its good bye to long term nurses that were born here, that is our country
  4. by   Skeletor
    Quote from lijeany
    there is no nursing shortage, this country has allowed so many nurses from the phillipines and haiti that work for cheap wages, its good bye to long term nurses that were born here, that is our country
    sad but true, at least where i live that's the ugly picture of reality.
  5. by   tanthalas
    lol. come to canada if she's looking for work! we've got more than a few open positions
  6. by   Skeletor
    Quote from tanthalas
    lol. come to canada if she's looking for work! we've got more than a few open positions
    How are wages in Canada, generally speaking for the Montreal area?
  7. by   DeLana_RN
    Quote from nerdtonurse?
    I know where I am, we are getting a TON of "I didn't work for a while, but hubby lost his job, and I'm back" newhires. That means the "fresh out of school" group won't get those spots....of course, the returning nurses are now remembering why they left to begin with, and we've had two tell the NM to stuff it and quit during "orientation."
    I worked PRN in acute dialysis until a year ago census fell a year ago and I simply didn't get any shifts; 6 months of this and I quit. I desperately need a new job now and have heard that my former department just lost a full-time nurse (she transferred to Home Health within the organization). However, the reason I won't apply for this job is the same reason why this nurse quit - as well as any other new hire in the last decade (!): The charge nurses is a superb---- from h---. Although I desperately need work, I won't subject myself to abuse. (The manager is obviously oblivious to this...)

    I'm sure many of these re-entry nurses will, just like you said, not last very long.

    I guess we all just need to be patient (and hope we don't drown in debt first ).

    DeLana
  8. by   deleteaccount
    in reading this post and the many responses; i'm shocked at this continuing idea that there has ever been a nursing shortage. there has never been a nursing shortage!!! i live and work as a nurse recruiter in a very large urban setting and can assure you that the reason so many nursing positions were available is because nurses move between jobs on an average of every 18months. so that means there were always positions being posted or reposted to accommodate this amount of moving. i've been an rn for 12yrs and heard the same story back then...there will always be a job due a shortage, etc. the economy means no one is moving around, hence positions aren't being reposted.

    now don't get me wrong, rural areas are in a pinch for nurses, but from what i was reading of these responses, this doesn't apply to most of you.

    new grads---take the night shift; stop begging for er/or/l&d positions without any med/surg time. yes, you have to work weekends and holidays. yes, there are stories of new grads getting these jobs but as in any other career; it's not what you know, but who you know.
  9. by   stephenfnielsen
    Quote from lijeany
    there is no nursing shortage, this country has allowed so many nurses from the phillipines and haiti that work for cheap wages, its good bye to long term nurses that were born here, that is our country
    this is despicable, some people in this country are so wrong headed when it comes to immigration. if someone wants to come from another country legally and keep their nose clean, work hard, and pay taxes then come on in!!! we are all immigrants to this country. america has been, is now and will forever be blessed with prosperity if the best and the brightest from the world over come here to share their talents and seek to live the dream. immigration creates jobs.

    you can always pick out the losers in the room, they are the ones saying "i can't get ahead because of xyz".
  10. by   DeLana_RN
    Quote from stephenfnielsen
    If someone wants to come from another country legally and keep their nose clean, work hard, and pay taxes then COME ON IN!!! We are all immigrants to this country. America has been, is now and will forever be blessed with prosperity if the best and the brightest from the world over come here to share their talents and seek to live the dream. Immigration CREATES jobs.
    Thanks, I'm one of them (from Germany, 1982).

    DeLana
  11. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quote from mina11
    Ditto on how crazy it is to spend $100,000 on a BSN...or any degree that is not an MD, even a JD (lots of lawyers are being laid off). There was an article in the New York Times about a guy who spent $150,000 on an art degree and now doesn't have any idea how to pay it off. Are these people even thinking?
    Basically, the students are paying for $100,000 for a brand-name degree and an alumni network that they hope will help in the job search. It's the same reason so many people try to get into Harvard.
  12. by   Not_A_Hat_Person
    Quote from csclarkrn
    If areas are experiencing a saturation of nurses than are those areas in sunny, warm climate or an area of popular resorts or beachs?
    That certainly wouldn't describe Boston.
    If you are willing to move out into more rural united states and look around you might find the jobs. Every state has needs but are you willing to look for them? Happiness can be found anywhere if you choose to find it rather than expect happiness to be handed to you on a silver platter. Some may agree with me and some of you may not but I am still waiting for the perfect job to be handed to me. Instead I work in less than perfect surroundings and with needs but I sleep good at night because I know I give my all to my patients.
    Over the years, I've learned that if no one wants to live or work in a certain area, there's probably a good reason. Not everyone can, or wants to, live in the middle of nowhere. Being nonwhite can also complicate things.
  13. by   AtomicWoman
    Quote from oncnursemsn
    Belt tightening till it does, the loss of a 12 hour shift will be noticable...
    Yeah, I am wondering when that will happen. One hospital here in NJ has already eliminated its Baylor program.

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