Schwarzenegger Says Nurses are "Set Dressing" - page 10
And the hits just keep on coming ... :uhoh21: According to the Sacramento Bee, Gov. Schwarzenegger had this to say about protesting nurses in California: "They are becoming now more and more... Read More
Mar 3, '05And this is the MAN who will try to change the Constitution of this country so he can run for president???? Just what we need...another muscle-clad 'dick' telling us how to do OUR job!!!
"Sometimes the only sense you can make out of life is a sense of Humor" anon.
Quote from Angie O'Plasty, RN"Set dressing?"
Nothing like demeaning, dehumanizing, and devaluing the VOTER.
Way to go, Dummy-Girlie-Man. :chuckle
Mar 3, '05Quote from starshinelyI can understand that you are frustrated, but who would actually want to see somebody "bleed out", "get sick" etc? Saying things like that are destructive, not constructive. A waste of your breath and my time. Use this valuable space to help, not hinder!I voted for Ahhnold and now I'm sorry I did. He is royally screwing over nurses! Special interests are we? How many nurses are in this state? I really want to see him get ill and need to be treated and for the nurses to stand around in the hosptial, not treating him, saying, "Oh, we'll I'm just Set Dressing, I have no importance." Watch him bleed out and then he'd be so sorry! It was only a few months ago that his wife was at St Luke's (or other) hospital opening a new wing where she had their four children. Hopefully she has more heart and cares than he does. I am all for the CNA and now wish Gray Davis was back, only because he stood up for us nurses and our BRN. Screw Ahhnold!
I am totally against the Governor's treatment of his constituents, the citizens of the Great State of California. We voters need to let our representatives know who is voting for them and make them represent us, the citizens, not the cronies of the Governor. Write letters, make phone calls, go to protests, talk about it in the grocery lines!
PUT YOUR NURSING PIN TO GOOD USE! GET IT OUT OF THE DRAWER AND WEAR IT WHEN YOU AREN'T WORKING. SHOW PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE PROUD TO BE A NURSE...INVITE DISCUSSION!
BOMBARD THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WITH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS.
WRITE LETTERS TO THE EDITORS OF YOUR LOCAL AND NATIONAL NEWSPAPERS AND JOURNALS. GET TOGETHER WITH OTHERS AND PLACE AN AD IN A SMALL PAPER, THEN NOTIFY THE EDITORS OF OTHER PAPERS AND MAGAZINES....SEND THEM CLIPPINGS, GET THEM TO COMMENT IN PRINT IN THEIR PAPERS!
ALL OF THESE IDEAS ARE EASY, DOABLE AND EFFECTIVE--GO CNA!. https://allnurses.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif
Mar 3, '05Quote from SMK1i'd be interested in noting how many jobs that require a minimum of a 4 yr degree have unions? I have a feeling one of the ANA's issues with CNA is that they don't believe "Professionals" have unions and they want nursing to regarded by all as a white collar 4 yr degreed profession. I think i'll try a searc when i get a chance to see what other jobs have unions specifically for them even though they are "professions" as defined by a bachelors degree or higher entry level.
I think this is exactly the key. My nurse/mentor friend said the same thing to me recently. That unionizing is not professional, in her opinion.
So we have a two-tier system . .. .those who think BSN is the way to go and no unionizing and that ADN nurses are more blue-collar . ... and those who think ADN is an important way to get into nursing and unionizing is a good way to collectively change the system.
I'm not sure the two will ever meet . ..
I have a ADN but I majored in Social Work when I first went to college a long time ago so I have the mindset of the BSN crowd I think.
Although I'm not about to go back right now a get a BSN in nursing . ..
Mar 4, '05Quote from fergus51LOL Steph! And I went the BSN route, but am in favor of unions!
I know - it is pretty funny when you think about it. Our background has alot to do with it BUT you come from cops and I come from ironworkers and you are in favor and I'm against.
I think there is a mushy middle where some of us don't know what to think. The truth is I've been a nurse for 6 1/2 years at a very nice place without any of the staffing problems others have encountered. We get along fairly well with the docs. Our DON is a fierce protector of nurses.
Toss me into some of the horror stories I've read on here and who knows?
Of course, I'd probably quit a job before I let someone tell me that I'm mandated to stay overtime. Or that I had to take that 10th patient. We actually do close down to admits when we are at our ration limit.
I guess I don't think the hospitals are all evil - I think they have some points to make.
And I don't think all nurses are perfect . . .I think there are problem nurses out there. But most nurses I've met have been great.
Hey, I'm a middle of the road type person . . . who'd a thunk it?
Mar 4, '05Ah, but I come from non-union cops. RCMP members are not allowed to unionize and my dad is the most anti-union person I've ever known, so that doesn't really apply to me unless this is me attempting to rebel against my dad.... I did have a bad non-union hospital experience that has shaped my views more, and I've always said that unions are only a response to bad management. Had hospitals always treated nurses fairly, none of them would ever go to the trouble of unionizing.
Mar 4, '05Quote from RE AgentI agree!The CNA is not addressing the issues in the right way. I do not support the CNA.
It is not OK to act unprofessional and then demand to be recognized as a professional. Not OK no matter who you may disagree with.
That is why the MAJORITY of nurses in the state of California are not members of the CNA. There are over 300,000 nurses in California.
Only 60,000 belong to the CNA.
I don't really care what you think of the Governor. I care about how you represent nursing to the public. I don't want the general public thinking that nurses act in such a disrespectful and unprofessional manner.
If you want to be be taken seriously and recognized as a professional, you must act in a professional manner. So STOP acting like you're in high school, grow some professional integrity and then talk to me about what you see as unfair. I might listen.
Mar 4, '05not a californian but this is what i believe what he was saying was:
ignore any nurses who are protesting the treatment they are getting...they are just in the background and i will not listen to anything they have to say...I AM THE STAR..i am the one the people in the crowd come to see, not some nurses that are kept behind a sawhorse where their protests are ignored
i can't believe that this is taken out of context...but maybe the speech was not as it is reported here
Mar 4, '05Hmmmm. Sounds like the boy should walk in a nurse's shoes for one very busy day. Then see if he changes his little old mind. He lives in the world of make believe anyway, so why not play that part too.
Mar 4, '05Here is yet another official that does not understand nurses! Our goal has always been to serve others and sometimes we are the patient's only voice. As an RN, I am outraged at the thought of being labeled "set dressing". We are professionals and demand respect! This Iowa RN is a Certified Legal Nurse Consultant and I own my own business. I will pass this article on to my fellow legal nurse consultants as a show of support. GO CNA!
Mar 4, '05hey arnie go back to whence u came from and suffer there will u-give yourself the bedpan or have maria do it for u
Mar 4, '05I haven't heard any of the economic reasons for the dispute on either side of the arguement. Once dues are collected for unions to negotiate on your behalf, you have no control over the where the money goes and what agenda it promotes and who it hires to achieve its political goals. Patient care will not be a high priority, just a means to financial support for the power brokers.
Mar 4, '05Quote from markbeastAm I the only one who thinks the way CNA is conducted itself is making nurses out to look like a group of wanna-be professionals? Storming Press conferences? Attacking public figures at random events? Spending a fortune on smear advertising.
This whole thing is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Isn't there a better way to get the point across than to act like hooligans? Where is the negotiation? Where is the discussion. We have completely severed ties with the leader of our state.
CNA you do not have my support to conduct yourself the way you have been acting, and I know I am not alone. Your issue is right, your tactics are wrong. Stop using intimidation tactics. They are not working and they are losing us respect.
I agree with you. CNA is only making the profession look bad. There are more civilized ways to achieve your goal. With so much protesting after awhile you do just become more window dressing. People quite listening.