Repost: 18 mo later Hurricane Katrina Continues Its Assault on New Orleans - page 2

from nurse.com: craig guillot sunday may 6, 2007 hurricane katrina continues its assault on new orleans eighteen months after the country's worst natural disaster, new orleans is still... Read More

  1. by   FocusRN
    Quote from noggin_wise
    The original post was about a news article on the shortage of nurses. The article stated how crime wasn't a concern, and I beg to differ with that assessment. For a city it's size it is a murder metropolis. New Orleans and Louisiana in general are very poor areas and depend heavily on government subsisidies. Everday I see Ray Nagin on TV demanding more and more from the government. High crime and corruption are the hallmarks of New Orleans always has and always will be.
    Of course anyone being killed isn't funny. I myself had a close family member murdered (shot multiple times). And you'd be suprised to know that it didn't happen in Louisiana at all, years before Katrina!


    Now what you keep saying, and how you are trying to manipulate the situation however is laughable, and is becoming more hilarious by the moment.

    It's funny. It seems like we read two different articles, as the one that I read repeatedly stated that crime IS a major concern.

    Any for a city "it's size", again it is an urban city that is also a party city. Crime is abundant always has been, always will be period. Now if you were a New Orleanian I would say, if you think the great city that is was and will be again isn't worth the crime element, well move to Metairie, Kenner, or somewhere else is JP, where crime is much much lower, but there will still be crime, as there is everywhere.

    "New Orleans and Louisiana in general are very poor areas", to this I would agree to an extent, but for the fact that your attempt was to be snide and discriminatory. I will say that you have obviously never
    spent too much if anytime is New Orleans, or Louisiana. If you had, you would find both the poor as well as the very affluent, like most other places.

    And of course Nagin is asking for money, the city did get hit by a major storm, and because of the levees that the government didn't take care of when they were warned our bowl shaped city was filled with water, and people just sat here and died. Did anyone forget that? Hmmmmm..... Now let me try to explain, since the city was filled with water, private and government building and people's homes got "really, really messed up". Now since when stuff gets messed up it has to get fixed the problem, is that people don't have the money to fix stuff, cause they didn't have insurance, their insurance companies, and deying their claims, and you know stuff like that. Since the people can't come home, the city isn't make money off of taxes and stuff, so it doesn't have the money it needs to fix it's buildings, pay it's employees, and fix lights and stuff. And that's why the mayor has to ask for money. Everybody understand now?"

    AND NOW BACK TO MY ADULT VOICE.

    Now the question has to be asked again, WHO said that New Orleans, didn't have crimes or corruption issues. You keep throwing that up, as if I am saying that it is incorrect. What I said, one more time was:

    The crime in New Orleans, is now, always has been, and sadly most likely always will be because of the fact that it is an urban city, that is a party spot. It has nothing to do with being a "nanny state", if that were the case many of my fellow New Orleanians would not still be struggling right now, because "nanny" would have a bottle in our mouths.
    In response to you blaming crime on why our city is still struggling.
    Last edit by FocusRN on May 10, '07
  2. by   pickledpepperRN
    Nurses tell of tattered health system
    Access to care is still inadequate, they say

    Six local nurses said Monday that mental distress is omnipresent in New Orleans these days as residents feel helpless to secure rebuilding grants, find doctors and schools and otherwise navigate life in a fragile city.
    During a roundtable discussion sponsored by the Registered Nurse Response Network, the nurses also said that patients without health insurance are forced to go months without basic care and often show up at charitable clinics with their health on the skids....

    ...Mulle said the hospitals, themselves overwhelmed and understaffed, often refer patients to clinics such as hers because they will treat patients regardless of their income or insurance status. But the doctors and nurses at Common Ground are volunteers, and they cannot meet the demand for care. Mulle said the clinic always has to turn patients away.
    "We are keeping people out of the emergency room, but at the end of the day, we are just a Band-Aid for a much larger problem," Mulle said. ...

    ...These days, nearly all of the patients she sees have a mental health issue that complicates the physical ailments they present to her -- often cases of diabetes or hypertension exacerbated by poor access to care. She said many are stressed out by impediments to rebuilding, including the slow process of obtaining Road Home grants.

    Craft-Kerney said she was appalled that more psychiatric beds were not available in the city nearly two years after Katrina. She said the fallout was nowhere more apparent than in the case of Terry Burton, a mental patient shot by a National Guard soldier who mistakenly believed he was brandishing a rifle.
    "If you have a mental health problem, at best you go to jail," Craft-Kerney said. "At worst, you get killed. I don't understand why, almost two years after Katrina, we do not have more mental health beds."

    Another nurse, Celeste Lewis of River Oaks Psychiatric Hospital, said health providers are themselves under tremendous stress -- a result of what they witnessed during the storm and the challenges of providing care in a recovering city....

    http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories...930.xml&coll=1

    http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories...l=1&thispage=2
  3. by   noggin_wise
    Exactly my point the city of New Orleans was suppose to have the levees properly repaired in the 70's and we now know those repairs were sub par again goes back to decades of corruption with New Orleans. Do really believe that All the BILLIONS being spent in New Orleans now is going where it needs to go? If you look at Houston where a lot of evacuees were sent after the hurricane you see Houston's crime statistics also sky rocketed and was directly attributable to the residents coming from New Orleans. To try and say every urban area has high crime is ridiculous. New Orleans has 10x the homicide rate per capita.




    Quote from Dream_Nurse
    And of course Nagin is asking for money, the city did get hit by a major storm, and because of the levees that the government didn't take care of when they were warned out bowl shaped city was filled with water, and people just sat here and died. Did anyone forget that? Hmmmmm..... Now let me try to explain, since the city was filled with water, private and government building and people's homes got "really, really messed up". Now since when stuff gets messed up it has to get fixed the problem, is that people don't have the money to fix stuff, cause they didn't have insurance, their insurance companies, and deying their claims, and you know stuff like that.
  4. by   pickledpepperRN
    I know many nurses who volunteered to help after Katrina and Rita. They worked in hospitals so nurses whose homes flooded could rest and/or tend to their families. They volunteered in clinics, churches, shelters, and hospitals.
    Nurses who went to clinics and the Astrodome told me that buses took people who had work experience from Houston to Las Vegas, Utah, California, Minnisota, and Austin. After a couple weeks the only evacuees were the elderly, the disabled including the mentally ill, and substance abusers. People with families and/or job skills went elsewhere. Those who were left were not representative of the many physicians, chefs, construction workers, electricians, casino workers, professional musicians, nurses, teachers, bankers, and the many many fine people of the great city of New Orleans, BIRTHPLACE OF JAZZ.
    I stayed working extra shifts so my RN friends could volunteer.

    This was a horrible disaster made worse by government and corporate inertia on almost all levels. It would have been so much worse if not for the Coast Guard, churches, and kind altruistic people.
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from noggin_wise
    Exactly my point the city of New Orleans was suppose to have the levees properly repaired in the 70's and we now know those repairs were sub par again goes back to decades of corruption with New Orleans.
    Isn't the Army Corps of Engineers responsible for their work regardless of the location?

    The voters of the Sacramento delta region have voted for bonds to rebuild their levee systen, the same kind as New orleans. Somehow the work has not been done.

    New Orleans' Rebuilt Levees "Riddled With Flaws"

    May 6, 2007

    Almost a year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers declared that it had restored New Orleans' levees and floodwalls to pre-Hurricane Katrina strength.

    But the system is actually riddled with flaws, and a storm even weaker than Katrina could breach the levees if it hit this year, say leading experts who have investigated the system. ...

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...ns-levees.html
    'Next New Orleans' may be in California
    Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta cited as 'scariest spot' for flooding

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11427817/
  6. by   cpkRN
    Let me preface by saying I've worked a long day (not a nurse yet, still working long hours as a customer service rep for an airline at MSY!). The flying public are BRUTAL! Maybe I don't know what "brutal" is yet, anyhow... I'm about to say how I feel here... This is off topic...

    Thank you, spacenurse. And please thank your friends/acquaintances who have worked hard to help the area. Glad to know we're not alone.

    Hey, Noggin, did you read the account of a fellow nurse here who was working in Methodist Hospital down here DURING Katrina? The link to her blog is around here somewhere (maybe she's one who's helping to defend here...) Quite a read... It's on here somewhere, I would suggest you read and take a more compassionate approach.

    Also Noggin, we are aware of our issues (the levee system is the responsiblity of the Army Corp, though...) here and I'm sure where you live has it's issues too. Please stop flaming us who live here and love it. New Orleans is still the SAME New Orleans and it always will be (I'm not talking about storm damage, I'm talking about PEOPLE!). I have lived elsewhere and will ALWAYS come back so you're wasting your breath arguing with us. Matter of fact, I was living in Houston for 4 months post-Katrina, in a hotel where I witnessed things evacuees did to the hotel (physical) that embarrassed me to no end, but I will still not deny my city. If you come here, you will be welcomed with nothing less than old-fashioned Southern hospitality beacuse the majority of us here are much, much bigger than your harsh words.

    Those who love it here and find that they're ABLE to come back and rebuild WILL be back. God bless you, grandee... I just drove through Chalmette and Lakeview a couple weeks ago... I didn't want to go back because I wanted it to remain in my mind as the beautiful area it once was - just couldn't fend off my need for reality. Almost 2 years later and I still have no words... Just God bless you. When you decide to come back here, you are welcome to contact me and stay for awhile.

    Noggin, I should give you the email of an acquaintance in Indiana (where I lived for 4 years) who liked to argue that no one should've ever wasted their time living below sea level (in a "big ol' bowl") to begin with. I'm guessing you're from the Midwest yourself. You'll probably just want the last word, though, so go ahead and proceed... I will leave this topic to those who are more eloquent with words than myself and leave with this:

    If any of you NOLA people are "Cowboy Mouth" fans, this is for you:

    WE... ARE FROM THE GREAT STATE OF LOUISIANA, THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS... AND WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO SHOUT ABOUT IT! NOW GIVE ME SOME RHYTHM... LAISSEZ LE BON TEMPS ROULER!
    Last edit by cpkRN on May 11, '07
  7. by   Groo1sem
    "Those who love it here and find that they're ABLE to come back and rebuild WILL be back. God bless you, grandee... I just drove through Chalmette and Lakeview a couple weeks ago... I didn't want to go back because I wanted it to remain in my mind as the beautiful area it once was - just couldn't fend off my need for reality. Almost 2 years later and I still have no words... Just God bless you. When you decide to come back here, you are welcome to contact me and stay for awhile. "


    Welcome to my world =\.. I drive in that area every single day. But I dont complain. However, I am happy that I will be going to an out of state nursing program just to clear my mind up a little. Im getting a little depressed here.
  8. by   NRSKarenRN
    For 10 years my parents vacationed around Mardi Gras in RV park outside New Orleaens before mother homebound Dad stated just Sunday wants to return there as so many fond memories---since sons in college I'm gonna tag along.

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