Nursing student accused of making threats in classroom - page 3

(WHAS11) - Police have arrested a nursing student accused of making threats in the classroom at Galen College of Nursing in Louisville. 34-year-old Ronald Wise from Lebanon Junction was arrested... Read More

  1. by   Purple_Scrubs
    I have heard comments along the lines of "I am going to go postal if I don't pass this test", and didn't think anything of it. I myself has used the phrase "I'm gonna slit my wrists if xyz doesn't happen", and anyone who knows me knows I would be the last person on earth to attempt suicide. I generally consider these to be expressions made in jest, maybe in poor taste, but not serious nonetheless.

    But if this guy actually referenced "another Virginia Tech" as he is accused of....WOW. That is a little too specific and creeps me out, even if he did say it jokingly.
  2. by   Katnip
    I think the school did the right thing. Too often threats have been passed off as some sort of joke, costing innocent lives. You just never know when someone will follow through. We weren't there. We don't know what his affect was like, so we can't say whether (indeed, if he said those things) he was serious or not. But it's best to be on the safe side and have him taken away and checked out.
  3. by   twow
    you guys joke around about harming other people...and think it's funny?

    anyone ever do this with patients?

    "i'm going to disconnect your IV..harharharharhar. hey, it's a joke why arent you laughing?"
  4. by   iteachob
    Quote from mwboswell
    Okay, and what's the point of posting this article?
    Is there some redeeming value or useful information?
    It seems pretty oversensationalized and I think all the information is not known in this case yet.
    Well, I think it IS of interest to nursing....particularly nursing education (I'm an assistant professor of nursing). It is also timely......this is a problem on the increase. The Nov/Dec 2008 issue of Nurse Educator had an article on policy development for disruptive students; there is an entire chapter in the 3rd edition of Billings & Halstead's "Teaching in Nursing: A guide for Faculty" devoted to responding to student misconduct (all the way from annoying acts to criminal ones).
  5. by   AZ_LPN_8_26_13
    Quote from Vito Andolini
    This type of steam must be blown off only privately these days. The world is different since 911 and we all are required to muzzle ourselves a whole lot more. Also, since political correctness and tolerance have been on the scene, we all have to express only niceness all the time. Soon, when the thought police can read our minds, we will be required to think only niceness all the time or we will be put down the memory hole.
    Just try saying what Gaylord Focker said on the plane. "Bomb. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb," etc. if you don't believe this.

    It's always been dangerous to have an opposing view but especially so now.:uhoh21:
    I think a lot of this has to do with the recent occurrances of campus shootings, one of which happened at Virginia Tech. I think they are correct in not blowing things off, so you won't have it come back later as people actually getting shot. But at the same time I sort of miss the days when you actually could let off a little steam with fellow students or co-workers, and not have to worry about it.... Nowadays you have to either be very discrete about it (hard to do these days - seems like there's always someone within earshot who will delight in reporting you) or you just have to keep your mouth shut in public and maybe tell only your spouse, significant other, or your private journal......
    Last edit by AZ_LPN_8_26_13 on Jun 15, '09 : Reason: syntax
  6. by   greenbeanio
    Quote from iteachob
    Well, I think it IS of interest to nursing....particularly nursing education (I'm an assistant professor of nursing). It is also timely......this is a problem on the increase.
    I don't know about other schools, but my school does not interview potential applicants, does not ask for character references or job references or anything. They admit students based on grades/scores alone. Consequently we have some students who are really not suitable as nurses or caregivers of any kind.

    IMO, skills can be taught but personality and values can't - well not in 2 years anyway. Are nursing faculties discussing this issue at all? Or are they cashing in on the nursing shortage by taking students likely to raise their NCLEX pass rates?
  7. by   Killerkrow
    I am currently a couple of quarters a head of this guy...At Galen College of Nursing in Louisville Ky...A good friend of mine was in the class when it happened...It was an odd story...The guy came into the class room...and asked for a certain woman who was not there because she failed the previous class...Then the guy looked at everyone and stated that well that is just one less person I have to kill...Then he started talking about how he had a taser...And that he was going to take them all out...And he refused to leave until the police made him...Leave but the funny story is that the school was just going to sweep it under the rug...It was the parents of some of the younger students ( 18 19 y/o ) that actually called the police to put charges on the man...Now The college Hires one rent a cop to cover two entrances...Who also does not get to work till 8ish...and the doors open at 7am...Wow I feel safe...LOL...Now that is the true story you will not hear on the news...
  8. by   galen10
    I am an evening galen student and am very disappointed that I had to find this news out by going online after being told there was drama at the school last week. However, when I arrived for classes today at 5pm there was a Louisville Metro Cop sitting at the door. My instructor told us that he would be there until 10 pm, and that they would begin checking our id's. Thats great and all but what about tonight? Why was I not informed before showing up to class? I was terrified sitting there taking my exam. Sadly we can't prevent things like this from happening, people are going to be crazy and make threats. What scares me is that this guy is out of jail on a 2500.00 bond. I saw this guy around campus and got chills watching it because he was just another face in the hallway, now he is something totally different. It teaches you to watch yourself and your surroundings more closely. I will continue my studies at Galen and not let this man ruin what I have started. If I ran from my fears I would be hidden somewhere far away. We can only thank God that he will not care for us or one of our loved ones and pray that his heart changes. As for Galen, I hope that security does tighten down. I'm not sure what 1 cop is going to do though. Oh, here is a clip from another news station with a better report.
    http://www.wlky.com/news/19738845/detail.html
  9. by   CrufflerJJ
    Quote from galennurse10
    I saw this guy around campus and got chills watching it because he was just another face in the hallway, now he is something totally different. It teaches you to watch yourself and your surroundings more closely. I will continue my studies at Galen and not let this man ruin what I have started. If I ran from my fears I would be hidden somewhere far away.
    Scary story. Talking about watching yourself & your surroundings more closely, I HIGHLY recommend an excellent book by Gavin DeBecker. The title is The Gift of Fear. DeBecker even appeared on Oprah (according to Google) a year or so ago, although the book is years old. The book emphasizes over & over & over that you should listen to "that little voice" telling you that something's not quite right with a situation or a person. Bad things happen when people ignore that little voice.

    Used copies of the book are available dirt cheap on Amazon, or you might check your local library.
    Last edit by CrufflerJJ on Jun 15, '09 : Reason: just for because I said so
  10. by   galen10
    Thanks so much for the book suggestion. I will try to get over to Barnes and Noble and see if they have it. Just continue to keep Galen in your thoughts and prayers that this guy doesn't try to come back to campus and do something since he was dismissed. Have a great week!
  11. by   Purple_Scrubs
    I remember seeing that on Oprah. I honestly believe it saved my life about a year ago.
  12. by   AZ_LPN_8_26_13
    Quote from CrufflerJJ
    Scary story. Talking about watching yourself & your surroundings more closely, I HIGHLY recommend an excellent book by Gavin DeBecker. The title is The Gift of Fear. DeBecker even appeared on Oprah (according to Google) a year or so ago, although the book is years old. The book emphasizes over & over & over that you should listen to "that little voice" telling you that something's not quite right with a situation or a person. Bad things happen when people ignore that little voice.

    Used copies of the book are available dirt cheap on Amazon, or you might check your local library.
    I'd like to thank you also for the book suggestion. This has actually been a personal standard of mine for quite a while. I have not read the book - hadn't heard of it until you recommended it, but I've learned through life (sometimes the hard way) to listen to "that little voice". With me, sometimes it's not even a voice. It's just a vague, uneasy feeling, a feeling that something is just not quite right about this or that. No logical or quantifiable reason to justify it, so it's easy to just blow it all off as silly, but over the years I've learned to pay attention to that feeling. But I plan on reading the book anyway...... again, thanks :spin:

    The advice to be alert and pay attention to your surroundings is good advice. When I go into a room one of the first things I check is where the exits are and where the windows are, how the desks and chairs are arranged, etc. This is important even in day to day safety, like if there was a fire, or some sort of evacuation, not just what if a crazed gun waver entered.......

    I am a guy BTW - this isn't just an 18-19 y.o. female concern. A bullet is no respector of age or gender. You will be just as dead if you are in someone's crosshairs.
  13. by   reapwhatyousow
    Quote from killerkrow
    i am currently a couple of quarters a head of this guy...at galen college of nursing in louisville ky...a good friend of mine was in the class when it happened...it was an odd story...the guy came into the class room...and asked for a certain woman who was not there because she failed the previous class...then the guy looked at everyone and stated that well that is just one less person i have to kill...then he started talking about how he had a taser...and that he was going to take them all out...and he refused to leave until the police made him......
    i wish i'd found this site sooner. i hope your friend gave a statement to the police and/or will testify if asked. i've had the misfortune of knowing this guy. he is a master manipulator. when he talks it's either self promotion or remarks made to intimidate. stand back if he doesn't "get his way". his traits can be found on multiple symptoms lists for various psych disorders: antisocial; narcissistic; paranoid; histrionic. the dictionary should have his mug shot next to its definition of a sociopath. this site's http://www.mcafee.cc/bin/sb.html description; right on the money.

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