Nursing board investigates Reno hospital Nurse Managers - page 2

nevada nursing board investigates renown nursing managers (reno gazette-journal) the nevada state board of nursing is investigating complaints against five renown regional medical center managers... Read More

  1. by   NRSKarenRN
    Nursing boards typically do not get involved in employee vs management issues. Instead they focus on PRACTICE aspect of individual nurse in relation to state nursing laws. I saw nothing in news item that PA/NJ/DE BON would get involved.

    Wage and hour issues WILL result in quick visit from state DOL: Dept of Labor, if can substantiate in report sent.

    Hospital patient care issues need to be brought to state dept of health (DOH) that liceneses facility, including how staffing affects patient care.

    Nurses complaining to wrong healthcare group...
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jul 7, '09
  2. by   morte
    Quote from NRSKarenRN
    Nursing boards typically do not get involved in employee vs management issues. Instead they focus on PRACTICE aspect of individual nurse in relation to state nursing laws. I saw nothing in news item that PA/NJ/DE BON would get involved.

    Wage and hour issues WILL result in quick visit from state DOL: Dept of Labor, if can substantiate in report sent.

    Hospital patient care issues need to be brought to state dept of health (DOH) that liceneses facility, including how staffing affects patient care.

    Nurses complaining to wrong healthcare group...
    perhaps the report to the board is all WE know about at this time....and perhaps it was d/t expections that were out of scope of practice....
  3. by   rockwell108
    Quote from Indy
    Maybe everything wasn't hunky dory, and the email exhibits are to show the internal discussion of the stuff they then complained about after losing their jobs. It's entirely possible that the nurses who tried to help correct what they saw as problems in the workforce, lost their jobs as a consequence of trying to do something.

    Anyhow. I read the blood draws issue as, they are having to draw morning labs instead of lab doing the AM draws. I can see where that would put a kink in the end of your shift - especially if you're understaffed.

    Hello this so true.. today tell the true about wrongdoing at your hospital . remember this it usually the hard honest workers who leave One day and the one breaking the rules are still there. I was working a coworker also a nurse was jogging in the unit because she had no patients in triage and she was not on break, she was on a new diet... I was trying to do my heavy assignment patient load job and she keep jogging in the unit hallway.getting in may way and the other nurses and patients way. and believe it or not the :spin:manager was on the unit and saw her jogging .and nothing was done. What is wrong with this picture. I was brought up to give an honest day work to my employer and have pride at the end of the day . The public needs to be educated and aware of unsafe conditions and rude behaviors at there hospitals.. I joined a RN union...bought my 99 .00 liability insurance because the hospitals will not protect the nurse .so wake up protect your self... As a whole nurse need to to unite....wake up nurses before it is to late . the truth is always the best way
  4. by   Teresag_CNS
    Quote from rockwell108
    Hello this so true.. today tell the true about wrongdoing at your hospital . remember this it usually the hard honest workers who leave One day and the one breaking the rules are still there. I was working a coworker also a nurse was jogging in the unit because she had no patients in triage and she was not on break, she was on a new diet... I was trying to do my heavy assignment patient load job and she keep jogging in the unit hallway.getting in may way and the other nurses and patients way. and believe it or not the :spin:manager was on the unit and saw her jogging .and nothing was done. What is wrong with this picture. I was brought up to give an honest day work to my employer and have pride at the end of the day . The public needs to be educated and aware of unsafe conditions and rude behaviors at there hospitals.. I joined a RN union...bought my 99 .00 liability insurance because the hospitals will not protect the nurse .so wake up protect your self... As a whole nurse need to to unite....wake up nurses before it is to late . the truth is always the best way
    It is important that nurses put the problem in perspective and turn to the correct regulators when there are issues, however. One nurse disrupting the unit is not a BON, OSHA, or Health Department issue, as others have said above. Going up through the chain of command, and then to the appropriate higher authorities, is what works.
  5. by   rockwell108
    Quote from dlatimer
    For what it's worth...I complained about short staffing and was fired in two days. Then they filed a complaint with the state board because I wasn't getting my job done in a timely manner. Most people just quit. It's possible this is one of the unspoken rules of nursing...complain and risk losing your job. The hospital was Research Medical Center, Kansas City, MO (HCA owned). The reasons for firing me was all related to not having enough people to answer the phones, call the doctor and try to keep the patient alive by myself. It tends to get more stressful than is necessary in those conditions. BTW, I told my supervisor I was going to quit as soon as possible 3 days before they fired me.

    I would be happy to share the complaint information with anyone.

    my 1.3 cents
    hello, Im so sorry this happen to you ,but this happens alot to good caring nurses who want to do the right thing . I would like to hear the complaint information from you .. there is a nursing moving going on""
  6. by   rockwell108
    Quote from Teresag_CNS
    It is important that nurses put the problem in perspective and turn to the correct regulators when there are issues, however. One nurse disrupting the unit is not a BON, OSHA, or Health Department issue, as others have said above. Going up through the chain of command, and then to the appropriate higher authorities, is what works.
    Hello I agree that one nurse disruping the unit is not a BON, OSHA ,or Health department issue,this is one of many issues, there are many things that go on due to poor management and poor communicating ,I agree with you going up the chain of command is the proper way but the end result maybe surprising.
  7. by   DolceVita
    "That nurses were required to draw blood from patients without proper protection from blood-borne diseases and in ways that might render lab tests invalid."

    I am confused and possibly a bit ignorant...what can they mean by this? Not provided gloves, sharps containers & specimen bags? Reusing blood draw supplies? I don't get it.
  8. by   rockwell108
    Quote from DolceVita
    "That nurses were required to draw blood from patients without proper protection from blood-borne diseases and in ways that might render lab tests invalid."

    I am confused and possibly a bit ignorant...what can they mean by this? Not provided gloves, sharps containers & specimen bags? Reusing blood draw supplies? I don't get it.
    Hello, I do not know the whole story but something is not right .But remember the bottom line its all about the money not the patient not safety or protection for the nurses . fyi read about the nurse file a lawsuit against hospital in colorado springs ,colorado ..
  9. by   nerdtonurse?
    Quote from oramar
    It would be great if the BONs started going after the license of management people who permit the bad staffing that results in the errors. Right now they just do what everyone does and that is blame the person that made the mistake.
    If they did, they'd just hire MBAs who wouldn't have a license.
  10. by   dlatimer
    I read an article from 2008 in Nursing Management Quarterly. It emphasized that nursing managers/supervisors have to work close with BONs so the nurse(s) will be disciplined correctly. It seems to me this is like putting the fox in charge of the hens. There is too much room for abuse.
  11. by   emmanewgrad
    I hear complains after complains. I justt graduated from Nursing school and have been in the medical field for 13 yrs, it all began in a LTC facility. It never crossed my mind that LTC facilities existed. Anyhow, I worked there for almost 4 yrs and had been told not to get pregnant or they would find a way to get me fired and loose benefits~come back the next day to reapply and they would hire peeps again. I thought it was a joke brought up by angry employees who had actually done something wrong. I got pregnant and got fired 3 weeks before having my baby! Their reason was I was working on the floor without assistance! My response was how could I not, if understaffed! four halls and three aids working on the floor for 120 patients! Each took a hall and then we each would go to the 4th hall which had more independent clilents in it. It was stressful, I cried every day I went to work, but I did it for all the patients I had been grown to see get older alone. I cried they day I left thinking not of getting fired, but about the quality of care my patients would get. who would care for them when they needed assistance even for a few minutes? I didn't go back tp reapply; instead, I went and registered at my local college and started taking classes online. I graduated May 15th and took NCLEX July the 5th(my birthday) and I know I passed. So, I realize I am a new nurse and the great responsability that I will carry on my shoulders as I evolve as a professional nurse and so I think as I read this postings...can't you say no if it's not within your scope of medical care? If we can't change the world, we can at least do what we can to help the patients know and feel they are getting quality care even when the other nurses or managers are not practising within nursing policy?

    Just a thought, I did this in memory of all the patients lifes I've had the honor to be part of at that LTC facility, RIP.
  12. by   dlatimer
    Welcome to Nursing. Trained to care, be compassionate and empathetic - but don't expect the same treatment in return.
  13. by   morte
    Quote from dlatimer
    Welcome to Nursing. Trained to care, be compassionate and empathetic - but don't expect the same treatment in return.

    oy! you "aint kidding"

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