Many U.S. Hospitals Fail To Report Substandard Doctors To National Databank - page 2
Poor reporting hampers database on substandard physicians Source: Contra Costa Times... Read More
Jun 2, '09Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 1,813; Likes: 1,630Quote from KatnipThe hospital where I work had a heart surgeon who would make patients crash so he could rescue them. I suspect the hospital didn't ask too many questions as long as he was doing this to paying patients, but when word got out in the community that this was going on (this is not a big city) and people weren't coming to this hospital for heart surgery because they were afraid he would get his grubby blood-smeared paws on them, he was removed from the staff and is now wreaking havoc a couple hundred miles away.Most hospitals are afraid to report doctors because of financial issues.
Even bad docs bring in $$$ for the hospital.
Docs often stick together, so if a bad one is punished, the others may start preferring to send their patients elsewhere. Probably most good docs wouldn't do that, but hospital admins fear it.
Jun 2, '09Occupation: Med/Surg LVN, Home Health Field Nurse Specialty: 9 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, ICU, Psych, Home Health ; From: US ; Joined: Jun '09; Posts: 43; Likes: 19God! The stories I could tell about a couple doc's at the hospital I've worked for for about 4 years now. Letting a pt stay on MS floor with a blood sugar of over 500 for more than 24 hours.....4 days later, still on the MS floor, blood sugar never got below 400. No Insulin drip no nothing. For a sugar of 687 I got to give a whole 10 units! Big whoop as my step-daughter would say. Went to management, my manager called him on it and he told her to F-off! Said if she was so smart why did she go to nursing school instead of med school! The idiot is still practicing..supposedly the board is investigating this incident and others. I have not been contacted as yet so I don't know if they are or not. Guess I'll never know.
Jun 2, '09Occupation: Nurse Educator Specialty: 13 year(s) of experience in NICU ; From: TX, US ; Joined: Nov '05; Posts: 8,750; Likes: 1,692Sometimes with all of the legal starts/stops/appeals that a physician and his attorney can employ, it can tricky to terminate a bad doc.
I think sometimes hospitals find it easier if the doctor resigns by mutual agreement. When that happens, nothing usually gets reported.
Jun 3, '09Occupation: staff rn Specialty: icu/er ccrn ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 89; Likes: 142heck in my mind the money suckin hospital administrators know of the issue then they are just as bad as the ones who are doing the harm. send them both to jail.
Jun 3, '09Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 1,211; Likes: 2,651The fact that it is so hard to take away an incompetent doctor's medical license reminds of how the Catholic church dealt with pedophile priests - they simply looked the other way and shipped the priests to different parishes, where they could continue to abuse other kids. It sounds like many hospital administrators have the same attitude of turning a blind eye, and if it came to the worse and the doctor resigned or was actually fired, they are still free to harm patients at another hospital!
Jun 3, '09Occupation: independent wound care expert, educator Specialty: 34 year(s) of experience in ICU, trauma, gerontology, wounds ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 200; Likes: 401Quote from MollypitaI've been in your shoes. And I've gotten a good talking-to for what I considered essential patient advocacy. I counseled people having an MI to get a cardiologist to care for them, instead of their substandard internists who hung onto their patients for dear life (or was it a dear paycheck?) This was very early in my career, and I have not once regretted it.My Lord, how many of us have seen the results of this being "overlooked"?!?! And what good is that list if nobody can access it?! Come on!! As patient advocates, nurses need to find some way to better communicate the "worth" of doctors (or lack of). I have made recommendations to patients before, knowing that the higher-ups would have a problem with it if they'd heard me. But what I really wanted to do was tell them to run as fast as they could from Dr. X... with good reason, believe me. I wish I knew the answer!
Jun 3, '09Occupation: independent wound care expert, educator Specialty: 34 year(s) of experience in ICU, trauma, gerontology, wounds ; From: US ; Joined: Feb '09; Posts: 200; Likes: 401Quote from blue noteAnd Angie's List also allows patients to rate their physicians. Which, of course, has prompted gag orders. Take a look here: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/03/gags.htmlI was going to post that someone should start a Yelp for Doctors, or something like RateMyDoctor (as they have for professors), only to find out, such a site already exists!
They do need more people to rate and write reviews though, but it's a start since doctors are the ones who don't want people to be able to access the national database!
Jun 4, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: 20 year(s) of experience in Med/surg. ED. Palliative. Geront ; Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 110; Likes: 147Perhaps situations with bad Docs like those described above are due to Docs being self employed independent practitioners who are not accountable to anyone but themselves and the system is set up to allow them to be like this.
In Britain, Docs are employed by the health service and have to abide by the rules, just like everyone else. A Doc who practices badly, argues with a family or gets abusive is disciplined. If it's bad enough, they get struck off the register.Last edit by Higgs on Jun 4, '09 : Reason: typo
Jun 4, '09Joined: Jun '02; Posts: 14,833; Likes: 8,035I was the victim of two. The first one was my pcp for ten years. After his not believing me, my illness got much worse, so I fired him and now have a very proficient pcp. I absolutely love the care he gives. He listens to me and checks out all the S/S I show or tell him about.
The second one was a fill in with a very malelovent personality, who was long past due to retire. After I obtained a copy of my medical records, I filled in the survey the hospital sent me, placing my recommendation that the hospital retire him. Shortly after I sent that to the hospital, he retired, and the group hired a new Specialist.