Foreign Nurses Charged For Walking Off Job - page 2

Smithtown nurses charged with endangering kids after walk-out Ten nurses who abruptly resigned from their jobs last year at a Smithtown nursing center were charged Thursday -- along with an... Read More

  1. by   SuesquatchRN
    From the article:

    "The indictment says the same day the 10 nurses resigned, two nurses from Split Rock Rehabilitation and Health Care Center in the Bronx and two nurses from Bayview Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Island Park had also resigned; the day before, 10 nurses from Brookhaven Rehabilitation and Health Care Center in Far Rockaway had resigned. All are owned by Sentosa Care. Those nurses were not charged."
  2. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Suesquatch
    From the article:

    "The indictment says the same day the 10 nurses resigned, two nurses from Split Rock Rehabilitation and Health Care Center in the Bronx and two nurses from Bayview Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Island Park had also resigned; the day before, 10 nurses from Brookhaven Rehabilitation and Health Care Center in Far Rockaway had resigned. All are owned by Sentosa Care. Those nurses were not charged."
    But if you notice, the article doesn't say those nurses are American.

    If you read the actual indictment ... all of the nurses who resigned from all of the facilities submitted the exact same resignation letter drafted by the same attorney ...

    Who was representing Filipino, not American nurses in, among other things, a discrimination suit against the company. In other words, all of the nurses who resigned were Filipino and some, but not all of them, were charged.

    That's why the attorney was also charged. They're alleging that he basically organized this multi-facility walkout because it was his letter that they all submitted.

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    Last edit by Sheri257 on Mar 24, '07
  3. by   kukukajoo
    The indictment makes it sound like the company who owns the care facilities perform their own recruitment in the Philpenes (forgive spelling). I Don't understand how a visa and work permit would cost them $25,000 for each nurse! Honestly I think that the justice department should be looking into the hiring agency, as slavery is illegal in the US and has been for a long, long time!! That is like those people traffickers that make the immigrants work in sweat shops!

    Some civil rights group needs to get a hold of this and shake the truth out.

    I mean come on- we have all heard the horror stories. What do you think it had to take before they got to this point? They must have been living a total hell.

    Also in the indictment, it says that a few of those nurses were the only ones to work exclusively with the vent kids. THAT DOES NOT MEAN other nurses did not work with them too. It only means that they did not work with other kids with different illnesses like the other nurses.

    Edentured servitude is WRONG and I smell something very wrong with this whole issue.
  4. by   SuesquatchRN
    Quote from lizz
    But if you notice, the article doesn't say those nurses are American.

    If you read the actual indictment ... all of the nurses who resigned from all of the facilities submitted the exact same resignation letter drafted by the same attorney ...
    You read the actual indictment? How? Where?

    The article does not state that the same attorney was involved in all of the cases. The article also makes a point of noting that the charged nurses were foreign born and states nothing about the nationalities of those NOT charged.

    I would be very surprised if some racism/protectionism isn't at work here.
  5. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Suesquatch
    You read the actual indictment? How? Where?

    The article does not state that the same attorney was involved in all of the cases. The article also makes a point of noting that the charged nurses were foreign born and states nothing about the nationalities of those NOT charged.

    I would be very surprised if some racism/protectionism isn't at work here.
    I just posted the indictment but, here's the link again:

    http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/da/press...et%20al%20.pdf

    The indictment states that all of the nurses submitted the same resignation letter drafted by the same attorney who, again, was representing Filipino, not American nurses. This is why the attorney was also charged.

    The indictment also explains why these particular Filipino nurses were charged and the other Filipino nurses weren't. The other Filipino nurses had resigned just the previous day so, the indictment alleges that these nurses knew they'd really be leaving the facility in a bind if they also resigned.

    "The defendants agreed that the defendant nurses, including all of the available nurses who cared for children on ventilators, would resign without giving Avalon Gardens notice."

    "The defendants did so knowing that their resignations and the prior resignations at other Sentsosa Care facilities would render it difficult for Avalon Gardens to find, in a timely manner, skilled replacement nurses for Avalon Gardens pediatric patients, particularly the terminally ill JB, the child NL and (four) ventilated children."


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    Last edit by Sheri257 on Mar 24, '07
  6. by   lllliv
    i wonder when these nurses were supposed to report back to work. how much time did the facility have to replace them?? 12hours?? 16 hrs?? days??

    did they report to oncoming nurses before they quit?? they must have.

    forgive me if i missed it in one of the articles.
  7. by   kukukajoo
    It doesnt say really, but the case law they are referencing in the indictment sounds like someone walked off a job on that. But thiers says they finished shift, so would not be immediately liable. They are saying because of the mass walkoff it put all the pts at risk for care later as they did so knowing that quitting would make it impossible to get help.
  8. by   suzanne4
    This is issue with Sentosa has actually been going on for months and months, it is not new. They have been investigated by the Philippine Consulate as well as the US government for practices that they have done and treatment of nurses that were working for them.

    They do most of their recruiting overseas, and make promises that they do not usually keep. It is well known in NY circles about them.

    I know that there is much more to this story then is being posted. Take the time to do a search on the ealier issues that have been addressed by these nurses and see what they were subjected to.
  9. by   Sheri257
    Quote from kukukajoo
    They are saying because of the mass walkoff it put all the pts at risk for care later as they did so knowing that quitting would make it impossible to get help.
    Exactly. This really is a child endangerment case, more than anything else.

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  10. by   clee1
    Quote from lizz
    Even if the employer totally sucks, you still have to do your part to ensure continued nursing care and patient safety ... i.e. giving the facility enough reasonable notice to find replacement workers. But if you're also creating a situation where they can't find replacement workers on such short notice, that obviously has the potential to compromise patient safety even more.

    Afterall, none of this is the patients' fault.

    :typing

    Nice try, but I don't buy it. After I report off on my pt, they are no longer my responsibility - legally or morally. As long as they weren't abandoned by on-duty staff, there is no way these "charges" will stick.

    No person; let alone a company, owns me or my time.
  11. by   lllliv
    depending on the amount of time they had... couldn't managers,other employees, agency, etc.. have covered. how long does it take to get strike nurses??

    this must have been a horrid workplace.
  12. by   Sheri257
    Quote from suzanne4
    Take the time to do a search on the ealier issues that have been addressed by these nurses and see what they were subjected to.
    I'm sure it's horrible. But, Suzanne: I don't understand this. Aren't you always warning foreign nurses not to sign these types of contracts with these scumbags? If they sign the contracts anyway, don't these nurses have some responsibility for their actions?

    I'm sorry but ... at a certain point, people have to remember that the fight is with management, not the patients. It's not the patients' fault ... and you can't just disregard them, especially if they're helpless, disabled children ... because you want to get out of a bad contract.

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  13. by   Sheri257
    Quote from clee1
    Nice try, but I don't buy it. After I report off on my pt, they are no longer my responsibility - legally or morally. As long as they weren't abandoned by on-duty staff, there is no way these "charges" will stick.

    No person; let alone a company, owns me or my time.
    Of course. If one individual did this ... there's no argument there. The problem here is that this was a mass organized, multi-facility walkout with no notice.

    If this was a union walkout, they'd be required to give ten days notice by law. Why? Because you're creating multiple, simultaneous staff shortages that endanger patients' lives. That's the issue here.

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