CDC - Why Most Nurses Don't Get the Flu Vaccine - page 10
this article is from the centers of disease control (cdc) influenza vaccination rates for nurses need a boost with all the news coverage in the last few years of people scrambling to find a... Read More
Dec 11, '06A little off the subject, but does anyone know if it is ok if I receive a meningitis vaccination within the same two or three day span of receiving a flu vaccination?
Dec 11, '06I would have no idea. But to be safe, wait a few days -I only say this because it stands to reason that since the way a vaccine works (activated weakened or not) is by "hitting" your immune system and causing it to create antibodies. So following that logic, it stands to reason that your immune system would be (at least slightly) weakened by the 'invasion' of the first vaccine. On the other hand, our systems should be fairly robust (since you are likely a healthy adult) and should be fine if you did. However, I'm of the mindset that "when in doubt..."
Dec 11, '06Just got mine last week. Have gotten them for the better part of 20 years, since I was a very young pup and in the military, where these were mandatory for all personnel. I can count on one hand the number of times I or my family members have suffered the flu in the last decade. I am a believer.
Dec 11, '06Quote from SmilingBluEyesJust got mine last week. Have gotten them for the better part of 20 years, since I was a very young pup and in the military, where these were mandatory for all personnel. I can count on one hand the number of times I or my family members have suffered the flu in the last decade. I am a believer.
I don't get the vaccine and I can count the ONE time we have had the flu.
Dec 17, '06Quote from augigiI just attended a medical seminar for doctors where they talked about the effectiveness of the flu vaccine. Is it perfect? No. But because at least three different strains are included in the vaccine, it is 85 percent effective.It's intended not just to protect you, but also your vulnerable patients.
It's actually very rare that the flu virus mutates to the point that the vaccine isn't effective.
Whether you get the flu or not, one would hope people would do it for their vulnerable patients but ... unfortunately, a lot of people don't seem to care about that.
:typingLast edit by Sheri257 on Dec 17, '06
Dec 17, '06I agree, and thats a shame. Though on my floor, its very strongly encouraged -and I don't know of any of the nurses who refuse it (I do know some on other floors who refuse it, tho).
Dec 20, '06Man, if there was a bird flu vaccine, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Always take the routine one anyway, but I had the Hong Kong flu in the big epidemic in the 60's and I almost died. When I got better, I was sick for another 6 weeks. I never want to see, or taste, the stuff I was coughing up again. Gimme the shot.
Dec 20, '06Quote from sanctuaryThere are limited amounts of a prepandemic vaccine for H5N1, but it may not be effective for the strain that hits this country, if this does indeed happen. CDC is asking for input from the public as to prioritization in giving out this type of vaccine. They are trying to get people to realize that there will be ethical considerations that are going to made about these scarce resources that are going to be shocking for some. You can have your say about this:Man, if there was a bird flu vaccine, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Always take the routine one anyway, but I had the Hong Kong flu in the big epidemic in the 60's and I almost died. When I got better, I was sick for another 6 weeks. I never want to see, or taste, the stuff I was coughing up again. Gimme the shot.
Keep in mind that this type of vaccine may not prevent infection if it is not the strain that hits us, and that will probably be the case. It might however, prevent death. It will likely require two injections to build an adequate level of immunity because this is a new virus that humans have absolutely no immunity to.
Another thing to consider is getting the pneumonia vaccine. Usually, only older people get this vaccine. Now many families are requesting this even for their children, one of the age groups most at risk from H5N1. Most deaths have occurred in the age groups under age 40 from this virus. Discuss this with your health care provider.
Sanctuary was saying that she was sick for 6 weeks after recovery from the 1968 flu which was a less lethal flu, but was indeed a pandemic. Some of the current plans for staffing health care facilities including the ones in my own state, are for HCW's who have recovered from the flu to take care of new victims. I always thought that this was not much of a plan based on stories about those who recovered in 1918 (H1N1), and those few who have recovered from the current virus of concern, H5N1 (there are some 40% who have survived).
It is very hard to think about these issues for something that has not happened yet, and might not occur for years. Pandemics are naturally occurring events, and some are more lethal than others. But, the point that you need to get, is that they have always happened every 30 years or so, and there is not a thing that we can do to about this but to plan for it. We can have all the opinions and beliefs that we want about this, but it will not prevent these naturally occurring events from happening.
Here is an analysis of the CDC's current rationing plan by Dr. Grattan Woodson, MD :
Someone is going to be making these decisions for the people in this country. These are really difficult issues to think about, but plans are currently being made nationally as well as locally that might surprise you.
Check with your health departments for more information in your state.
Dec 20, '06One more thing to think about. I just read this yesterday and was surprised that I had not heard about this sooner:
2006: What ever happened to bird flu? - Second Opinion - MSNBC.com (kudos to Flutrackers)
Quote from [url=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16267155/She was 35 years old, and had no contact with poultry. The source of her infection is still under investigation.2006: What ever happened to bird flu? - Second Opinion - MSNBC.com[/url]
But H5N1 continues to spread out of control in birds in some countries — notably China and Indonesia. As of this writing, the last human death was ominously a nurse who died in Indonesia on Nov. 28.Last edit by indigo girl on Dec 20, '06
Dec 21, '06Quote from lizzCan you provide a source for this? I'm asking because it's of interest to me personally.
It's actually very rare that the flu virus mutates to the point that the vaccine isn't effective
Everything I have read or seen from CDC "flu spokesmen" officials have talked about how the influinza virus is highly unpredictable.
Here is CDC info from 2004:
[url=http://www.cdc.gov/od/oc/media/pressrel/fs040115.htm]CDC - Media Relations - Press Release - January 15, 2004[/url
Here is the info for this years flu strains so far (too early yet to tell I suppose): http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/Last edit by marilynmom on Dec 21, '06
Dec 22, '06[quote=Noahm;1834174]I think that they are a form of goverment mind control. Its not really a vaccine, but little microscopic microchips that get injected into your system and lodge in your brain.
Dec 22, '06[quote=Noahm;1834174]I think that they are a form of goverment mind control. Its not really a vaccine, but little microscopic microchips that get injected into your system and lodge in your brain. my thoughts exactly!!! I Too was in the Air Force and that's where I first heard the microchip theory. I take my OSCILLOCOCCINUM like a good homeopath- works great- kicks flu virus butt-and I don't hafta worry if the CDC got their flu facts for whatever year straight.