Be Careful Who You Trust - Nurses Included - page 3

Be Careful Who You Trust - Nurses Included by Diane Dimon, an investigative reporter A truly bizarre story, if true. Could this really happen?... Read More

  1. by   blue note
    Quote from leslie :-D
    i'm not seeing your point?
    I was referring to the few posts here and on the writer's site that said the story was credible. It doesn't necessarily mean that this story is true, but that they can believe that something like that can happen. That is what I find disturbing.
  2. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from blue note
    It doesn't necessarily mean that this story is true, but that they can believe that something like that can happen. That is what I find disturbing.
    i am one of those who found it credible.
    never really gave it thought whether i believed it or that it could happen.
    sounds like splitting hairs to me.
    if i believe it could happen, then it follows that i believe it, yes?

    i only read the story once, and didn't read word-for-word.
    nor did i take time to analyze it or give it any type of indepth thought.
    but yeah, i could see this nonsense happening...
    in a general sense and specific to this story.

    leslie (still have confused look on my face)
  3. by   pennyaline
    N'yaaaaah'I dunno. This thing seems to be scoring rather high on the old Cock-and-bull-ometer. I can't be sure if this is just a bad reporter relating a true story, a good reporter relating a crock of s...t, a bad reporter relating a crock of s..t, or what. I am sure of one thing, though. Statements like this one: "When Sarah was finally able to return to her office and the computer she had allowed Joseph to use on her behalf she found he had downloaded cell phone video of someone having sex with her lifeless body in a hospital bed!" definitely call the gullibility if not the credibility of the reporter into question.

    Not only was it a cell phone video (how was that determined?) of "Joseph" (of course it was "Joseph"... who else would it have been?) having sex with her lifeless body... Whoa! She was lifeless??? But she's okay now, right? Phew! Okay, just making sure! :wink2:

    "Joseph" stalked her to another hospital... "Joseph" took out a mortgage using "Sarah's" stationery (that's a good one!)... someone is raping her in her hospital bed and it's on video...

    And the police have no interest in any of this?
  4. by   rostata
    I found this story bizare. If you have the copy of the video, why can't you use that as an evidence. If then, Joseph steal her identity to get the loan, then use that to file charge as an identity thief. Nothing will happend unless you bring a civil suit. So right now, he can walk free as nothing happen. So leave it alone unless you have any evidence.
  5. by   talaxandra
    I've worked in acute care my entire career - it's hard enough for the patients to have privacy while washing or toileting, what with people barging in all the time, that I was stuck just on the rape parts. And that's in the room - where were the other staff in MRI? Or was the department staffed wholly by men that night, all intent on raping a drugged young patient? That seems even more unlikely.

    I'm not saying it couldn't happen, though I'm skeptical, and wonder where her friends and family were during these months she was vulnerable and blind in hospital, recovering from a botched operation.

    But it reads more to me like fiction written by someone who had a good idea for a story and wasn't too concerned about conflicts between the concept and real life - for a brilliant illustration of what I mean in a definitely fictional example, read this.
  6. by   talaxandra
    I don't know anything about the relative merits of various US publications or broadcasters. I did, however, notice that the overwhelmong majority of Ms Dimond's published writing is on Michael Jackson, predominantly during his 2005 trial. Her other work has been on similar, high profile celebrity cases:
    She was the first to report the story of rape at the Kennedy compound in Palm Beach, Florida and to identify William Kennedy Smith as the accused. And Dimond has been praised for her hard-hitting interviews with a number of infamous prison inmates including: Pamela Smart, a school teacher serving a life sentence for enticing her high school lover to kill her husband; James Earl Ray, the convicted assassin of Martin Luther King Jr.; Jeffery McDonald, the convicted “Fatal Vision Killer”; Kenneth Bianchi, the convicted “Hillside Strangler” and Dimond is the only reporter to have ever interviewed Richard Allen Davis, the convicted killer of Polly Klass.
    By the way, was anyone else irritated by the way she continually referred to the alleged perpetrator as "Nurse Joseph"? Heaven forbid that we forget that for a second...
    Last edit by talaxandra on Jun 16, '09
  7. by   pricklypear
    I'm just not sure what to think of this story except that I think it unfairly draws negative attention to "travel" nurses. Being a travel nurse does not make one any more likely to be a criminal or 'shady'. I have traveled myself, and worked with numerous travelers. I didn't find any of them to be "shady characters."

    Did this poor woman not have anybody else in her life - friends, co-workers, family? Surely someone would have noticed that something funky was going on.
  8. by   catmom1
    Quote from patchouli
    well, why would his license be banned unless he had the conviction? innocent until proven guilty, remember? i agree, something is not right about this story. why hasn't she reported him for rape? why isn't the prosecuter going after him?
    the nursing board can sanction this guy's license without the level of proof that would be required in a criminal case. the rule of "innocent until proven guilty" is in criminal law. licensure action is under administrative law, which offers fewer protections for the accused than criminal law does.

    this story makes no sense.

  9. by   Patchouli
    wow, so anyone can be accused of anything or be arrested on probabilty or suspicion without conviction and still lose their license? that's very unjust. makes me a little uncomfortable actually.
  10. by   caroladybelle
    [QUOTE=blue note;3687662]
    I admit that the story sounded somewhat fantastical to me, but the writer is a former reporter for Court TV, and has been on shows like Nancy Grace, Larry King Live, etc. So she doesn't sound like someone who would make up a fictional story to pass off as fact.

    Nancy Grace!!??!!???

    Sorry, but that does not prove credibility to me - especially when the reporter has no clue about licensure.

    But as an aside, was this an RN or LPN? Or is someone playing the CNA/PCA/MA is just the same as nurse game, perhaps?
  11. by   blue note
    Quote from caroladybelle
    Nancy Grace!!??!!???

    Sorry, but that does not prove credibility to me - especially when the reporter has no clue about licensure.
    As opposed to some random blogger that no one has heard of, or has zero credits, not even "Nancy Grace"? Yeah, there are holes in the story that need to be filled, she didn't research some things properly and I remain skeptical, but I am not sure about dismissing it outright either.
  12. by   Batman24
    When you read the full article it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The one hospital where she claims many bad things went down didn't even hire him. They thought he was her boyfriend. Why she would allow this person into her home is beyond me. She was sick and temporarily blind. She has a good job and money as it pointed out in the article. Did she not have any friends, family, neighbors, bosses or co-workers willing to help out?! I almost wonder if it became a romantic relationship with this nurse and it went very sour. There are bad apples in every profession and he could be one too but there are just too many things here that don't add up.
    Last edit by Batman24 on Jun 16, '09
  13. by   eriksoln
    Two things I dont get, maybe I'm just slow:

    "When Sarah was finally able to return to her office and the computer she had allowed Joseph to use on her behalf.............."

    What? So, there was something more than just "Joseph" being a nurse who took some info down. Why was he in her office? I dont get this part. A computer he used on her behalf............for what? Why were they meeting outside the hospital?

    Second, the part about sexual relations with "her dead body". Was she under anesthesia or something? What?