World Philippines
Published Oct 26, 2006
this is the latest news from cgfns. just in.
commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools (cgfns international) statement regarding visascreen® eligibility of philippine nurses taking the professional regulation commission's (prc's) june 2006 nursing licensing exam.
click the link for details: http://www.cgfns.org/sections/press/news/2006/10-25-06_vs.shtml
this is for information purposes only. no one should argue regarding this issue.
K-Ann
75 Posts
Really, pink20, i think you need to read all the threads first, read all the links, read everything. These people already answered most of your questions. Read the news too.
Are you sure about this news? Can you give me the exact link for this news...Because I know that although cgfns does not think that the issue was already resolved they consider the licenses of the june2006 passers as valid. They did not say that they will deny their visas.
CGFNS does not give or deny visas. They issue the visa screen certificate. Again, please read all the threads concerning the NLE issue first.
Dush
6 Posts
please indulge me with a few of my observations.
i can't blame anyone who's skeptical especially on this issue. so much has been said about it (and it seems it'll not rest any sooner) that you should take everything with a grain of salt. no one can definitely say how things would go, not even the moderators of this public forum (no disrespect intended). some would openly give their (un)solicited advice, perhaps basing them on their supposed wealth of personal & professional experience, while some look the other way, get their facts straight, offer a critique, or even poke fun at times. but the worst people are those who muddle up the issue with the intent to serve or gratify their biases, or pejoratively instill a culture of fear & uncertainty amongst users of this forum.
so there it is. pick your poison & choose well. after all, it is all up to YOU.
bonsai_25
150 Posts
I am sorry I'm sure she read everything about the nursing leakage issue, she was just pointing out.. that there wasn't an article written before that clearly stated or in black and white stating that the batch is banned or something. They can assume that the news already stated it clearly what the ncsbn or cgfns want.. or they can assume its not in black and white yet, its entirely up to the reader. All I know is this issue is not over yet.
Anyway, the Court of Appeals decision allowed the passers to take their oaths and licenses. There was no article that said otherwise.
Supreme court? The group petitioned already to reverse the court of appeal's decision.. there isn't any hearing yet that I know of.. so there is no Supreme court's decision hence.. I'm pretty sure there is no news about that. :trout:
pink_20
78 Posts
Actually I have read everything they posted here, but what I am asking for is that where did they got these news from and can they give me the exact link. As far as the news is concerned.the UST group filed a petition to the SC because they want the decision of the CA to be reversed by the SC. The supreme court never said not to issue the licenses of the batch 2006 and they actually have not given any statement yet regarding this issue and it seems like you are misleading the people reading the posts in this forum. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if you are spreading news that does not have a reliable source is really wrong.
yup i know....i stand corrected...what i meant was the cgfns never said that they will not issue VSC to the june06 batch. The cgfns already gave the statement wherein they said that the licenses of june06 batch is valid.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
Sorry but CGFNS did not say that the licenses were valid, they said that they were considering each one on its own merit and that any license given overseas need to be obtained under the same standards that are required to get a license in the US.
And per US rulings, no matter what licensing exam, if there are issues with it when it was given, then it needs to be retaken, the entire exam, and by all. This has actually happened in several areas, including even the law bar, which is what the exam is called that lawyers must pass in the US.
And that is what CGFNS has stated multiple times. Please take a look again at what they have posted. And then you show me one person that has gotten a VSC that took that exam, the only ones that are posting are talking about their friends that got denied.
Look, it makes no difference to me as to what you do, but I have been helping foreign nurses be able to work in the US for more than 20 years, so I do have some experience in the field, as well as teaching foreign nurses.
And have worked with many nurses from the Philippines for more than that length of time.
And as I keep saying, if you do not follow what you need to do, and do it properly, it will trun around and bite you on the butt. And if you take the time to look at page 14 of the VSC Handbook on the CGFNS site, it will explain everything in detail to you. Until a couple of months ago, that page was all of a few sentences. Since the issues with the NLE, it is now an entire page. And they are not lying and trying to scare anyone when they say that they will cancel a VSC, and then that is grounds for immediate deportation.
You are quite free to do as you want, but never say that you were not warned.
But the CGFNS never suggested anything to resolve this issue and they stated that they respect what the philippine court's decision. What bothers me is that the Supreme Court hasnt given any statement yet but I read the posts here saying that the Supreme Court doe not want to issue the licenses of the june06 batch.where did you get that news?
bogart06
13 Posts
For clarification, THE PHILIPPINE SUPREME COURT HAS NOT SAID ANYTHING about the leakage issue. Several parties led by the UST group of Prof. Tadle (President of UST Faculty) had filed an appeal to the decision of the Court of Appeals allowing the Oathtaking and Registration of the June 2006 NLE passers. But that's it at the moment.....Court hearings on the appeal is on-going.... but NO WORD OR RULING CAME FROM THE SUPREME COURT THAT LICENCES NOT BE ISSUED!!!! In fact, registration and issuance of licenses for those who passed the June 2006 NLE are on-going!!!
Bogart06
corrupted_caregiver
32 Posts
Hello. I have heard that CGFNS is reviewing if the NLE is in the acceptable range to the US standard. And their going to release their decision int the near future. It specifically refers to the June 2006 Passers.
I have talked to someone regarding that and she said the she will sign a waiver nullifying her June 2006 result. Will CGFNS approve the Visa screen of the said applicant (rather than defer the application) the said applicant??
lawrence01
2,860 Posts
Hello. I have heard that CGFNS is reviewing if the NLE is in the acceptable range to the US standard. And their going to release their decision int the near future. It specifically refers to the June 2006 Passers. I have talked to someone regarding that and she said the she will sign a waiver nullifying her June 2006 result. Will CGFNS approve the Visa screen of the said applicant (rather than defer the application) the said applicant??
Yes, they are. You can read the official newsletter from their website and the link was already posted in the 1st page of this thread.
If she's gonna re-take there would be no problem. If just nullify and not re-take makes no difference would it? Besides, when an applicant signs their name in the application forms they agree to disclose all information and certify it as being accurate or risk the certificate being revoked later on when it was later found out.
Remember, the list of all those who passed the exams are already in the hands of those who needs to know, namely, CGFNS, recruiters and employers.
One poster already posted here that a friend of hers was already denied the VSC certificate.
angelcharm
62 Posts
but the cgfns never suggested anything to resolve this issue and they stated that they respect what the philippine court's decision. what bothers me is that the supreme court hasnt given any statement yet but i read the posts here saying that the supreme court doe not want to issue the licenses of the june06 batch.where did you get that news?
u r absolutely right.. most forumers here has mistaken that the court of appeals and the supreme court is the same. and i have read that some of them here do not understand the justice system and the philippine constitution. and the reasons behind the court of appeal's decision.
the supreme court (highest court) has not given any statement bcoz it was jsut recently that the ust has filed another complaint... this means that the ca's decision of
1.allowing everyone to take their oath,
2. get their license,
3. and charging those who were proven to benefit from the leak
still continues..
then there are also charges filed against ust by individuals, the parents and by the alliance of nursing all over the country.
in fact, the first batch to have their oath taking already have their license.
if, however proven that the license holder benefitted from the leak then their licenses are subject for revocation. you can t just take away someone's license without proving that the person holding the title has violated ra 9173
there are some who are retaking the exam to prove their worth. however, most people who signed the waiver to nullify their june board exam (because they assume they will come out clean of this issue) are those comming from the alleged review centers. they know that if ever they will be proven to have benefitted... then their licenses will be revoked. while if they get out of the june examinees theyd still be alive.. hehe..
i do not see why everyone should be condemned. i remember one senator saying, "u can not burn the whole house down if u found a bad mouse."
