NCSBN rules out Philippines as NCLEX site - page 6
just a sad update to other filipinos. american nurses' boards won't accredit rp grads this post is not meant to incite arguments, but to inform.... Read More
Nov 6, '06Joined: Nov '06; Posts: 2I sympathize with the 2006 takers because it's not a big joke going through endless preparation let alone the number of years you painstakingly labored to complete the course only to find out that all you get is a revoked license:angryfire , believe me its more than maddening especially those who passed without the benefit of a "leakage", so to speak! However... much as we hated it, integritywise, the only REAL CHOICE we have is TO DO THE RETAKE, be it Test 3 and 5. Come to think of it, nothing beats a controversial-free license.
Nov 6, '06Joined: Sep '06; Posts: 33; Likes: 2Well, I am sure it will cause more disussion but this seems to be yet another problem with foreign trained nurses..my issue is with language barriers...they say they have to speak acceptable English but I find it generally to be very limited and dangerous in pratice. Many foreign nurses then insist on speaking their language amongst themselves on the floor, really alienting staff and patients. Dont know the solution, but when I interview for a position and see alot of foreign nurses on the floor I head the other way. Recruiters say hospitals LOVE them because they work all kinds of hours and dont care about unions and overtiem. They are weakening the negotiating power of our own nurses. I hope someone wakes up soon.
Nov 7, '06Joined: Oct '05; Posts: 113; Likes: 40Quote from mixyplixy================================================== =======Well, I am sure it will cause more disussion but this seems to be yet another problem with foreign trained nurses..my issue is with language barriers...they say they have to speak acceptable English but I find it generally to be very limited and dangerous in pratice. Many foreign nurses then insist on speaking their language amongst themselves on the floor, really alienting staff and patients. Dont know the solution, but when I interview for a position and see alot of foreign nurses on the floor I head the other way. Recruiters say hospitals LOVE them because they work all kinds of hours and dont care about unions and overtiem. They are weakening the negotiating power of our own nurses. I hope someone wakes up soon.
Mixyplixy--you are spot on with your comments! Living here in Miami, I see this Langauge barrier daily and its a HUGE Problem! What I would also like to see is in addition to a Written test for Foreign Nurses, they should be tested here in the USA in the 15 Clinical Areas that a US Nurse must be proficient in before he/she can sit for their Nursing Boards. I have seen way TOO many foreign Nurses here who were NOT familiar and/or not proficient with our clinical practice, be it sterile field, wound dressing ect. This should never be,,,,BTW, here in Miami unless you are Bilingual in English and Spanish, in South Miami, you probably will not be able to work. Hard to believe but true,,,,
Nov 7, '06Occupation: Company President, Nursing Instructor Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in ER, OR ; Joined: Aug '06; Posts: 7I read the whole thread, if a June 2006 passer reads this thread, lets admit,it is very upsetting. But I believe the decision to retake the exam is a very personal decision, with a lot of factors to be considered, not only working abroad or getting a US Green Card, good news, bad news etc. Maybe a June 2006 passer can sit down, really think and ask himself: why did I take up Nursing? As a true professional, the honest answer to this question will lead all June 2006 passers to do the honorable thing. Give them time to think about it. Anyway, Suzanne said there is a retrogression, so whats the big hurry? No one is going anywhere right now. If a Visa Screen Certificate is denied, then they will re-take and, I am sure, Pass the NLE without cheating, the NLE is very easy compared to the NCLEX-RN. Our country( and the US,too) has been through scandals and scams, we always find out that the best thing is to do what is MORALLY RIGHT. I am still hopeful, the guilty ones who really cheated will eventually pay for it and maybe even lose their licenses. Then they can never practice Nursing(or own Nursing schools-shame on you!- and Nursing Review Centers) here in the Philippines or anywhere else. I am watching what the NBI and the Courts will do to the owners/staff members of the Nursing Review Centers involved in the leakage. If these people go scot free, then I am on a jetplane out of this country, RN or not. (Hey they're hiring 2,000 welders for Australia!!)...anyway, give these colleagues a break, they 've been through so much. Enough already..
Nov 7, '06Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 4,785; Likes: 900I am sorry but this is a forum and this is the proper place where nurses can discuss issues they consider relevant. This is, of course, in accordance to the Terms of Service (TOS) of this forum and so long as each one respect each other's opinions and so long as only the issues itself is being debated, discussed or opined upon and not the personalities who are giving them, then we are within the limits of the function of a proper forum.
A lively and substantial debate is in fact encouraged as this is the very foundation and purpose of a forum. So long that everything is kept friendly, no violations of the TOS done and respect to the people on the other end of the issues are observed then we are within the limits of what can be appropriately and properly discussed in a forum.
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As it is, I will being closing this thread for a couple of days for cooling down purposes only.
Thank you for understanding.Last edit by lawrence01 on Nov 7, '06
Nov 7, '06Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 4,785; Likes: 900A friendly reminder for new members; please kindly read the Terms of Service (TOS) one agreed upon signing up w/ this forum and pls. read it wholly and understand what it says. Their is a statement their about freedom of speech.
Again,this thread is only temporarily closed for cooling down purposes to prevent the issue from being getting too emotional. This action is likewise in accordance w/ our TOS.
People can certainly discuss issues and it doesn't matter what your stand is so long as everything doesn't become too personal or emotional.
Thank you for understanding.
Nov 13, '06Occupation: Setting up my own company Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 33more info about the denied visa screen of a june 2006 NLE passer. That will really help. I'm going to retake the whole exam this coming June 2007. As of now, I'm going to apply for ATT in New Mexico. I will write a letter nullfying my exam last June. So, nursing is temporarily close. Hehe Hello Real Estate and Marketing. I need to live you know.
Nov 13, '06Joined: Dec '03; Posts: 37,336; Likes: 5,525To nullify that you took the exam in June, does not matter to the US; the issue is that you took it and your name is on the list of having taken it, that all of the appropriate offices have in the US.
That may be what you need to do to retake it in the Philippines, but it does not change things in the US until that exam is actually written and passed.
Nov 14, '06Occupation: Setting up my own company Joined: Jul '06; Posts: 33suzanne,
I did not understand your post. Are you saying that my retake on 2007 must be done first to make a difference in the US? or even if I undergo a retake it doesn't make any difference? From your previous post you are saying that all we need to do is retake the whole exam, pass it and we are clean. As from what I understood from the arguments in this forum, we need to do a retake on the whole exam and pass it then we are clean. Right?
Nov 29, '06Joined: May '06; Posts: 2ei ....the june board exam issue has tainted the countries credibility.. and what other way is there to clean the mess than just retaking the board exam??... what's their to be afraid of when you really know your " stuff "... or maybe its otherwise.... right??.. its true that the board exam is a very stressing ordeal but what other way is there when others hold your credibility in doubt??... and another thing, why do you think the NCSBN had postponed to give their decision??... its maybe bcoz there is still hope... and maybe their trying us out to see if how we are able to handle such anomalies and if what will be our action if such situations occur in the future.. ok it should not only be blamed on the board leakage issue last june,.. but admit it or not, it did leave a very dark mark to philippine's ability to hold true on the credibility of its nursing board regulatory commission......, shame, shame ,shame......