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  1. by   chuck_dezmond
    Quote from suzanne4
    The student visa will not permit them to stay when that contract is up. There is no way that they will be permitted to remain there and work in any capacity. The visa with this type of program is severely limited.

    Next question would be why in the world would anyone with a four year BSN want to work as unskilled laborer and this is what they would be. They cannot do one thing that requires a license, or they are subject to immediate deportation, they will not have a license to do anything there at all. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all. And then one does not have current work experience as an RN either, so that will actually work against them later on. These programs can promise all that they want, but the fact remains that the UK government is not going to have visas as nurse for them later on, and without current experience as an RN, there would be no way for them to get a visa as an RN later on if visas would become available.

    Only person that gets helped is the owner of the program that makes money from them; definitely not the care-giver.
    You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

    For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

    If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

    God Bless us all.. .
  2. by   Silverdragon102
    Quote from chuck_dezmond
    You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

    For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

    If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

    God Bless us all.. .
    But working as a carer is not working as a RN and that is what will give the advantage if immigration changes and opens up. Current experience working as a nurse will be what employers will be looking for. This I doubt will happen as the UK currently is going through some very tough times and the government has already stated they are going to make it harder to bring in foreign workers.

    What is your friend going to do when they have finished the course and can not stay in the UK?
  3. by   5cats
    Quote from chuck_dezmond
    You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

    For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

    If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

    God Bless us all.. .
    You are the one who very obviously know nothing about it. At least not the legal way, there's absolutly no legal requirement to work overtime as a caregiver, so they are abusing the system.
    The filipino education was recognized in the UK, they had to do the adjustment course, like every foreign educated nurse here, who's not from an EU country. I work with many nurses who were trained in the Philippines.

    A nurse who has no current experience as a RN will have only disadvantages, it makes no difference if this Nurse is allready in the UK on a student visa.

    5cats
  4. by   eila_26
    hi good evening!

    just read your forum and i wanted to post a message for all of you.. i applied as a caregiver in international student advisors 4u in makati and to tell you, i've been waiting 4 more than 1 year and till now i still don't have my visa.. i paid them 2500 pounds and that time it is equivalent to 98 pesos per pound 245,000




    moderator note: please could you post in english so all forum members can understand your post. thank you
    Last edit by XB9S on Jun 21, '09 : Reason: removing non-English
  5. by   ladygie24
    eila 26, i thought the processing takes 4-6 weeks only, at least that's what they say anyway.
  6. by   coyzquared
    Guys just want to ask if you know about this...

    Iv been doin a lot of readings lately here in this forum and i have found some helpful ideas about going on with this work-study placement scheme of ISA 4U Inc. just want to ask if you know about BSc International Nursing top up with Overseas Nursing Programme that they offer in University of Hertfordshire? basically its a 2 year course and you will be able work in a placement i think as a carer and you will need an IELTS score of 6 to enter the program.. after completing the degree you will be allowed to stay for a year i think for your Post-study work and work full time then during this time they will help you in applying with the Nursing Midwifery Council if you meet the requirements then you will have your acceptance letter from NMC and you will now be given the opportunity to enroll in the ONP.I've checked with the NMC website University Of Hertfordshire is listed with them as one of the schools that offer the Overseas Nursing Program.

    Anybody here in the forums know about this route? i already have an IELTS score of 7 on all bands however i only have at least 6 months of nursing experience being a hemodialysis nurse is it advisable to take the degree of BSC International Nursing then after completion apply for an ONP..or should i just continue to have more experience being a hemodialysis nurse for a year and apply directly to the ONP? of course after meeting the requirements with the Nursing Midwifery Council. is it that hard to apply with the NMC? i really need your comments and suggestions regarding this guys!thanks in advance hope you can shed light on this matter thanks!
  7. by   yaniii
    Quote from ladygie24
    eila 26, i thought the processing takes 4-6 weeks only, at least that's what they say anyway.
    Ladygie24 - it takes 4-6 weeks..as long as you have all the documents/requirements you need and the money paid..then you will be sent to the visa submission..but make it 2 months..at least..me and my cousin applied with ISA last march, however we took sooooooo much time with the documents and payment..delayed everything..until after summer vacation..we passed our documents for visa processing last august 6 and received our approved visa..=)
  8. by   yaniii
    Quote from coyzquared
    Guys just want to ask if you know about this...

    Iv been doin a lot of readings lately here in this forum and i have found some helpful ideas about going on with this work-study placement scheme of ISA 4U Inc. just want to ask if you know about BSc International Nursing top up with Overseas Nursing Programme that they offer in University of Hertfordshire? basically its a 2 year course and you will be able work in a placement i think as a carer and you will need an IELTS score of 6 to enter the program.. after completing the degree you will be allowed to stay for a year i think for your Post-study work and work full time then during this time they will help you in applying with the Nursing Midwifery Council if you meet the requirements then you will have your acceptance letter from NMC and you will now be given the opportunity to enroll in the ONP.I've checked with the NMC website University Of Hertfordshire is listed with them as one of the schools that offer the Overseas Nursing Program.

    Anybody here in the forums know about this route? i already have an IELTS score of 7 on all bands however i only have at least 6 months of nursing experience being a hemodialysis nurse is it advisable to take the degree of BSC International Nursing then after completion apply for an ONP..or should i just continue to have more experience being a hemodialysis nurse for a year and apply directly to the ONP? of course after meeting the requirements with the Nursing Midwifery Council. is it that hard to apply with the NMC? i really need your comments and suggestions regarding this guys!thanks in advance hope you can shed light on this matter thanks!
    coyzquared - i've heard about that route but im not sure about it..there was someone who advised me to..go to UK as a student..then apply for ONP..because she said it was easier for us to be processed if we are already there..than in here in philippines..however, im planning to still finish the BSC international nursing..because it could be helpful for my career when i apply to other countries..then take the ONP after..=) if the school will suggest ONP before i finish the course because i also have above 7 for my ielts, then maybe i'll take the ONP..because ONP is only 20days for the lecture i think..then the rest is clinical setting thats why its 6months..just dont take the NVQ courses..take courses that are point-based system when they process the visa..because if you will take the NVQ route..they are just processing the january applicants when i last went to the visa submission..if you would rather still have experience here..then go for it..but i went to some seminars that countries like US, or UK or other big time countries, would rather give work visas to those who have international education ang work experience..so they say..=) so goodluck to us all!
  9. by   coyzquared
    @ yanii

    Thank you for sharing and giving some advice on how i should pursue with this matter. I see that you have applied with ISA.. are you taking up the BSc International Nursing with UH?hope to hear from you and your experiences with ISA. because by the end of the month i am going to make my decision as to continue with my plans in applying with ISA. Thanks so much!any info would be appreciated!
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Aug 19, '09 : Reason: Please post only in English as per terms of service
  10. by   ladygie24
    vaniii > tnx! i also applied in ISA, but you're right, the process takes too long. I began working on my application last July but i received the conditional letter from UH only today. Any idea how long it'll take for them to send the unconditional letter (the one needed for Visa application)?
  11. by   badbach66
    I just browsed through this thread, and this work-study program does sound fishy..To think that I was seriously considering this some time ago.Thanks to silverdragon & sharrie for the information! One of my friends is leaving for the UK next week on this program, & I'm hoping the best for her..
  12. by   coyzquared
    ei guys, my friend who actually talked with the owner of ISA last Aug.4,2009 and said that their contract with UH will expire next year so the next semester starts this september 2009 and the last would be january of next year i guess the batch who applied just this month and a couple of months before september would be there by january thats if you already complied with all the payments and requirements..He said that he is talking to another school and hope to sign a contract with them..however,he did not mention what the name of the school was. If any of you guys who are reading this thread and have/will apply for ISA or is already in the UK via ISA please share your experiences..that way we would be able to discuss things that ISA have promised during their orientations and the things that we should all consider.Hope to hear from you guys!lets help each other out!kase applying with them is not easy especially if you dont have the financial capabilities to back up you application..all the best!and good luck sa atin!
    Last edit by Silverdragon102 on Aug 28, '09 : Reason: Please do not post names
  13. by   RichLovina
    In the above posting the quote "...Once they have completed their two-year Bachelor in Science in Health and Social Care program, Stringer said there will be better job opportunities for them in the UK, Australia, Canada, and New Zealand." is incorrect, in respect to Australian requirements. All Nursing courses leading to an RN in Australia are 3 years Tertiary training and therefore all Nursing Boards in Australia will, generally, NOT accept an overseas application without a 3 year tertiary training course.

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