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[color=#6f6f6f]san luis obispo tribune, ca - 33 minutes ago

san luis obispo county's registered nursing supply ranks in the lowest third of california counties

by sarah arnquist

a record number of new nurses graduated this weekend from cuesta college, and while most plan on working at local hospitals, higher salaries at state facilities and hospitals beyond the san luis obispo county line are luring some away.

dan drager, the only man among 50 registered nursing graduates, plans on moving to sacramento for work-though the surfer would love to stay on the central coast.

"the only reason (to move) is pay," he said.

drager, 30, said he can earn $15 more an hour in sacramento, and he wants to buy a home and car. "this area is just really unrealistic for those things," he said.

california has one of the worst nursing shortages in the nation, and san luis obispo county's registered nursing supply ranks in the lowest third of the state's counties, making new graduates highly sought after by local hospitals....

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"But hospital officials are worried that recent salary increases at the California Men’s Colony and Atascadero State Hospital may thwart their ability to recruit and retain qualified nurses.

 

“We are deeply concerned about this escalating wage disparity and its frightful impact to our community’s health care,” French Hospital CEO Alan Iftinuk wrote in an April letter to Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee.

 

CMC now starts registered nurses at $85,000 — twice what a nurse fresh out of school could make at local hospitals and about $20,000 to $30,000 more than experienced nurses earn."

Give me a break ... :rolleyes:

I am so sick of this whining from hospital CEO's ... especially Catholic Healthcare West.

If you want more nurses then raise the pay. It's not exactly cheap to live in San Luis Obispo ... it's very expensive. And yet they're only paying new grads a little more than $40K a year? That is ridiculous for that area.

I got a call from this exact same California hospital chain asking me why I didn't want to work there. I told them it was the low pay ... did they want to hear that? Of course not.

Frightful impact on community healthcare? What they're really worried about is the bottom line.

Do you know how much Catholic Healthcare West made last year?

 

$140 million last year ... up $40 million from $100 million the year before!

 

So don't tell me they can't raise the pay.

The truth is ... they just don't want to raise their pay. Although you can bet that the CEO and his managers are making good money.

As far as I'm concerned they have no right to complain about an alleged nursing shortage when the California Men's Colony has waiting lists for jobs because the pay is so much better.

If you don't want to pay then you're going to be short ... plain and simple. But when your net income is $140 million a year ... you have absolutely no right to complain.

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"But hospital officials are worried that recent salary increases at the California Men's Colony and Atascadero State Hospital may thwart their ability to recruit and retain qualified nurses.

"We are deeply concerned about this escalating wage disparity and its frightful impact to our community's health care," French Hospital CEO Alan Iftinuk wrote in an April letter to Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee.

CMC now starts registered nurses at $85,000-twice what a nurse fresh out of school could make at local hospitals and about $20,000 to $30,000 more than experienced nurses earn."

Give me a break ... :rolleyes:

Do you know how much Catholic Healthcare West made last year?

$140 million last year ... up $40 million from $100 million the year before!

So don't tell me they can't raise the pay.

If you don't want to pay then you're going to be short ... plain and simple. But when your net income is $140 million a year ... you have absolutely no right to complain.

:typing

I agree wholeheartedly with your post's sentiment, but actually CHW made 438 million in 2006-----and they are on track to beat that number in 2007.

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I agree wholeheartedly with your post's sentiment, but actually CHW made 438 million in 2006-----and they are on track to beat that number in 2007.

Oops ... you're right.

I should have checked because I was going by memory ... but they made $348 million in 2005 so that's a ...

$90 million net income increase in just one year!!!

But they can supposedly only afford to pay RN's $40-50K in San Luis Obispo ... which is very expensive ... and paying RN's more jeopardizes community healthcare?

This is absurd !!!

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"But hospital officials are worried that recent salary increases at the California Men’s Colony and Atascadero State Hospital may thwart their ability to recruit and retain qualified nurses.

 

“We are deeply concerned about this escalating wage disparity and its frightful impact to our community’s health care,” French Hospital CEO Alan Iftinuk wrote in an April letter to Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee.

 

CMC now starts registered nurses at $85,000 — twice what a nurse fresh out of school could make at local hospitals and about $20,000 to $30,000 more than experienced nurses earn."

Give me a break ... :rolleyes:

I am so sick of this whining from hospital CEO's ... especially Catholic Healthcare West.

If you want more nurses then raise the pay. It's not exactly cheap to live in San Luis Obispo ... it's very expensive. And yet they're only paying new grads a little more than $40K a year? That is ridiculous for that area.

I got a call from this exact same California hospital chain asking me why I didn't want to work there. I told them it was the low pay ... did they want to hear that? Of course not.

Frightful impact on community healthcare? What they're really worried about is the bottom line.

Do you know how much Catholic Healthcare West made last year?

 

$140 million last year ... up $40 million from $100 million the year before!

 

So don't tell me they can't raise the pay.

The truth is ... they just don't want to raise their pay. Although you can bet that the CEO and his managers are making good money.

As far as I'm concerned they have no right to complain about an alleged nursing shortage when the California Men's Colony has waiting lists for jobs because the pay is so much better.

If you don't want to pay then you're going to be short ... plain and simple. But when your net income is $140 million a year ... you have absolutely no right to complain.

:typing

I'm still in school, but I read your post and agree with it completely. That's like the gas companies saying they can't lower the price of the gas but their PROFIT margins per quarter is 50 to 90% OVER what they made the same quarter the year before.

Many areas of California are just insanely expensive to live in.

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Many areas of California are just insanely expensive to live in.

What's even more insane is that you can make more money as a new grad in cheaper areas of the state than what they're paying in San Luis Obispo. That's why the nursing student in that article is talking about moving to Sacramento.

But this CEO has the nerve to complain to state legislators about state facilities paying RN's more money? With $438 million in profits they can't find more money for RN's?

Well ... he can complain all he wants but those better state pay rates are set by the federal judge so ... there's nothing he can do about it.

I looked at CHW's survey. Out of 65 questions there were only three about money and benefits. Like duh ... raise the pay idiots. You don't have to pay a survey firm to figure that out.

And if you don't want to raise the pay then don't bother with a stupid survey. If anything, whatever they're paying for that survey should go to RN raises.

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Interesting. I have lived out of state for over ten years, and currently in an LPN program planning to return to Sacramento where I was born and raised and my family is there. I turned down being accepted into a rad tech program because I was accepted at the same time for the nursing program and chose to do that. Now my crystal ball is telling me that if I come back to Cali and endorse my license, I may be facing saturation. That there will be so many grads and an applicant bank so full that there may not be jobs a plenty or of your choice. I knew NorCal and Sacramento County certainly does pay better for nursing positions and feel certain there won't be a nursing shortage there, in fact I think there will be far more suppply of nurses than demand and I won't be as gainfully employed like I thought I would.

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Interesting. I have lived out of state for over ten years, and currently in an LPN program planning to return to Sacramento where I was born and raised and my family is there. I turned down being accepted into a rad tech program because I was accepted at the same time for the nursing program and chose to do that. Now my crystal ball is telling me that if I come back to Cali and endorse my license, I may be facing saturation. That there will be so many grads and an applicant bank so full that there may not be jobs a plenty or of your choice. I knew NorCal and Sacramento County certainly does pay better for nursing positions and feel certain there won't be a nursing shortage there, in fact I think there will be far more suppply of nurses than demand and I won't be as gainfully employed like I thought I would.

Yeah ... I'm not sure what to make of the California nursing situation right now. Cheap hospitals like the one mentioned in this article are short because the pay is low. But since it's located in a gorgeous coastal area, maybe they still find enough nurses to get by since lots of people want to live there.

But with the California Corrections pay raises (including the above mentioned Men's Colony) there's 3,100 RN's who have applied and are waiting for those jobs. At some prisons there's at least 10 applicants for each job opening.

I got hired by Cali Corrections but a friend of mine didn't ... probably because I applied to more facilities than she did and I got some corrections experience that helped me stand out from other applicants. And, since this prison is expanding their medical facilities ... and there's not as many RN's in the area where this prison is located ... I don't think I was dealing with as much competition as she did.

Meanwhile, new grads are saying they can't find jobs in the San Francisco ... but in the inland areas new grads can pretty much find work anywhere (except, of course, with the higher paying corrections jobs). They're building 4-5 new hospitals out in the desert where I live.

So what does it all mean? Obviously if the price is right, there does seem to be a surplus of nurses. But I also think a lot of RN's have come here because of the ratio law and, a lot of them tend to move to the coastal areas ... perhaps flooding those markets.

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I too have had bad experiences with CHW, in S.F. and Phoenix. The latter flew out a group from all over the U.S. and put us up for a 3 day w/e at the Hilton to interview for a level I trauma center. When I asked them about "gang activity" they looked me straight in the eye and replied Stepford -wife sweetly that they didn't have any! They were hard pressed to speak of salary, kept pushing benefits and career ladder potential and you couldn't nail them down to nurse:pt ratios either.

We fought long and hard for ratios in Cali. and I pray that other states follow suit. Yes the money is better here but the cost of living is ridiculous with studio/ 1 bdrm condo's in the worst part of S.F. going for 400-500 k if you can find them:uhoh3: We affectionately refer to this as "the golden handcuffs"- we look good on paper but still don't have the living conditions we crave

City weather is lousy for the most part but at nearly 4 bucks a gallon for gas and 4-5 dollar bridge tolls, you would spend what you saved by living on the other(cheaper/ sunnier) side of the Bay. Man does not live on coastal views alone no matter how nice

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well the guest worker program should fix this it will bring wages down for all the big companies looking to pay less and earn larger profits

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well the guest worker program should fix this it will bring wages down for all the big companies looking to pay less and earn larger profits

The guest worker bandaid doesn't solve the high cost of living problem. And I recall companies needed pay guest workers with the same pay standards.

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