University vs Community College employment

Dear All:

I am an engineer in Taiwan, and my nephew plans to apply for the school of nursing in the US next year. She will first complete the MSN program and then the PhD program(psychiatric/mental health) and an RN license. According to her plan, she intends to find a faculty position in the university after she earns her doctorate and an RN license. I wonder is it possible/simple to find a faculty in the universities just after she gets her doctorate and an RN lisence? Is prior working/clinical experience not necessary when someone applies for a faculty position in the university? Could anyone give me some information about how to find a faculty position in the university for an international student?

Thanks a milliion

In the US you have to earn your RN and have work experience before

going on for a graduate degree. I don't think there are many (if any) creditable US nursing schools that would accept someone into their MSN program without a RN license and clinical experience.

And there is no SIMIPLE way of doing it. You start at the bottom and work your way up. First an RN w/BSN or other bachelors degree, then MSN, and later a PhD or DPN, if desired. It takes years. So no, there is no SIMPLE way of doing. If she is looking for a simple way, then she better look elsewhere because nursing is anything but simple.

To be frank, I am a bit insulted that you would think there could be a simple way. Just thinking that shows that neither one of you really understands what it takes to be a nurse. So I will offer this advice.

I would suggest, very strongly, that your niece go work as a nursing assistant, so she can see the realities of being a nurse - then she can make an informed decision.

In the US you have to earn your RN and have work experience before

going on for a graduate degree. I don't think there are many (if any) creditable US nursing schools that would accept someone into their MSN program without a RN license and clinical experience.

And there is no SIMIPLE way of doing it. You start at the bottom and work your way up. First an RN w/BSN or other bachelors degree, then MSN, and later a PhD or DPN, if desired. It takes years. So no, there is no SIMPLE way of doing. If she is looking for a simple way, then she better look elsewhere because nursing is anything but simple.

To be frank, I am a bit insulted that you would think there could be a simple way. Just thinking that shows that neither one of you really understands what it takes to be a nurse. So I will offer this advice.

I would suggest, very strongly, that your niece go work as a nursing assistant, so she can see the realities of being a nurse - then she can make an informed decision.

there are MANY entry level MSN program, mainly for people with a non nursing BS/BA. one obtains a BSN in the first year or so then completes the MSN portion in the next 2 years.

I wrote about my experiences here: https://allnurses.com/nursing-articles/comparison-bsn-versus-255197.html

However, this is just one community college ADN program and one large university BSN program. Only of anecdotal value. The workload in the community college ADN program nearly killed me. The workload in the university BSN program is much more reasonable.

there are MANY entry level MSN program, mainly for people with a non nursing BS/BA. one obtains a BSN in the first year or so then completes the MSN portion in the next 2 years.

And there are a number of BS to PhD programs now as well, with some people going directly to a PhD after earning their BSN (although many are returning BSN students). I believe some of the DNP programs may plan on having a direct, BS to DNP program too. No matter what, I do think it is very difficult to teach w/credibility w/o at least some clinical experience.

here is a really good article discussing the differences between the two (if i was able to attach it correctly).

Zambroski.pdf