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Looking for up to date and accurate info on vaping and etoh testing in monitoring programs. Any info out there?

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I drove myself crazy with this issue. Finally I figured if ETOH wasn't on the label I was gonna do. I've been vaping about 3 months and have had many tests & its been OK

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Thanks for the response! I have a vape juice that does not have etoh on the label but it was bought online, so I'm kinda scared of it! I see there are many "alcohol free" options, so I think I'll go to a vape store today to see if the ones with alcohol actually say it on the bottle.

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I don't vape, so I'm not sure I can really chime in on this, but it seems you'd be better off going to a store and talking with someone. I've popped into a store with a good friend that vapes (probably wayyyyy too much, so I tell her, haha) but they guy seems quite knowledgeable. Not sure I'd trust anything bought online. Along the line of an old post of spray PAM having al alcohol propellant not on the label (if it does, it's not been an issue because I use it) I looked at a bottle of pump spray PAM and lo and behold, it had grain alcohol...!!!! What the????

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Yeah, I'm nutz and paranoid about what I ingest. However at some point I just couldn't foot the bill for smokes anymore if I was going to continue to eat (which I enjoy very much) so a friend told me about vaping. I immediately started reading horror stories on the internet about vaping causing positives for ETOH because (among other things) they clean the vape machines with ETOH and its an ingredient in the flavoring. Finally I decided that I don't know what they clean the Snickers machine or hamburger grinder with either and most things I eat has flavoring. Now I look at labels and if it doesn't say alcohol on there I pray for the best.

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Ok. So just got back from the vape store and am still confused. The guy said that none of them had alcohol in them so I asked how come they specifically say "alcohol free" on some sites. He said that's just a thing like "gluten free" and "caffeine free", just cause people like to see it there...

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I dunno about that. For a product to carry the official seal of GF it has to meet certain requirements, like being produced in a gluten free facility, otherwise there is a CYA warning in the ingredients (has been produced in a facility that also processes nuts, dairy yadda yadda yadda....). For gluten free, like for nuts it can be a matter of illness, not choice. Organic has to meet certain criteria, eating organic is a choice. Non organic won't kill you (at least not immediately anyway). Kosher has to meet certain standards....not going to get into all different nuances of kosher but you get the idea.

The point being is for us, the presence of alcohol is supremely important. He is either clueless in regards to labeling regulations or does not know what he is selling. You might try another vape store.

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Ok, all...I looked up the mfg of the juice I bought today (Vapnco Labs) and there was a "message us" option so I sent one and got an immediate response. He assured me that 5 or 6 of their brands are alcohol free (one being the stuff I bought today). So, I just went and bought what I hope to be my last pack of smokes, and Monday is quit day. I can do this!!! Will keep you all posted on next testing! Thanks for all the input!

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I glad you got an answer. It does amuse me that for all the howling about addiction and endless meetings being the solution, it's perfectly okay to walk out of such a meeting and fire up a cigarette. I never did understand that. I suppose nicotine is an acceptable drug. But then so is caffeine. Ah, the cognitive dissonance of the "recovery industry."

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Cats its funny you bring up kosher as I looked at my vape juice and apparently it has kosher ingredients. I was a horrible catholic growing up and now don't know what the heck I am but I guess I never thought of such a thing as being kosher. I wonder if they have kosher cigarettes?

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Huh. That is interesting. I grew up Catholic, replete with 12 years of Catholic school, but have Orthodox Jewish family roots....no wonder I'm in therapy...jeez. Hence the vague knowledge of kosher. As far as I am aware, it's primarily meat and dairy regulations. I can't imagine what component of vape solution would be either but I suppose you never know.

Kosher cigarettes? I think it comes down to splitting hairs between kosher for Passover or not kosher at all. Why? I dunno...getting a little out of my area or expertise, I think. I have seen where some rabbis have declared some brands to be kosher, so I guess that's your answer....yes, yes they do. :)

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Ha thanks Cats!!! I'd like to blame all my BS on 8 years of Catholic School (altar boy Spanked many moons ago) but that's a cop out

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