Physician Hostility

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Why are so many physicians threatened and hostile toward NPs? What are the strategies in dealing with these types of professionals,and in what ways can we make it easier to practice together?

i have no issue with autonomy (well - i don't have a say in it) but I truly feel that in an ambulatory setting NPs and PAs excel!!!! i agree that autonomy in the hospital/acute/critical setting is still not an option... but you would be surprised how many NPs and PAs (who i have very close friendships with) in those acute/critical settings still moan and argue for autonomy. that is what boggles my mind.

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This is an interesting thread. However, what bothers me just a little is how we tend to classify everyone's potential and capabilty by what our personal feelings are or what we have 'seen' in practice and then generalize. I don't know how to explain what i truly want to say. In short I guess just because you are an NP doesn't mean you should or shouldn't seek autonomy. I also think it is awful when people who aren't NP's or for that matter even in nursing pass that judgement. On the other hand it goes without saying that your level of intelligence and ability to care for humans is what guides outstanding practice. Whether you are a MD or a DO...I don't really care. I hope you have the sense to know what you are doing. Whether you are an NP in a hospital or a private setting or both...the word NP signifies your licensure. Your practice and performance signify your ability.

Thanks for letting me vent.

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I just was at a site called studentdoctor network and there is a guy called macyver who is ranting about NP taking over the role of family practice and internal medicine doctors. He is something else and I don't think that I can stand to read his opinions anymore.Blah Blah blah

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it is studentdoctor.net under family practice board

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I know, it's a dark place isn't it.

That thread was mentioned to me and I went over and looked at it.

Seems that they're so scared of NP's at the moment, they need to come see where we hang out.

They're really not worth our time.

-Dave

I just was at a site called studentdoctor network and there is a guy called macyver who is ranting about NP taking over the role of family practice and internal medicine doctors. He is something else and I don't think that I can stand to read his opinions anymore.Blah Blah blah
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Again, I am just a regular nurse, but if NPs don't get any real patho training, why are they the ones teaching the residents patho on our unit? I haven't worked with many NPs previously, but the two we have here are excellent.

You probably dont even understand what real pathophys is. Give me an example of an NP teaching a resident about pathophys and I'll show you a weak resident.

Your hospital must be draw a very weak resident pool, meaning that its either in the stix or is full of IMGs from foreign countries because american grads didnt want to match there.

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Thanks. I am so mad right now I don't know if I can go to sleep. I was just reading it for the funny ER stories but for some reason, decided to see what else they were talking about. It doesn't sound like his fellow doctors are in agreement with him either. Some people. :rolleyes:

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Don't worry guy...

This is just HER opinion.

And you know what they say about opinions.

-Dave

Thanks. I am so mad right now I don't know if I can go to sleep. I was just reading it for the funny ER stories but for some reason, decided to see what else they were talking about. It doesn't sound like his fellow doctors are in agreement with him either. Some people. :rolleyes:
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You probably dont even understand what real pathophys is. Give me an example of an NP teaching a resident about pathophys and I'll show you a weak resident.

Your hospital must be draw a very weak resident pool, meaning that its either in the stix or is full of IMGs from foreign countries because american grads didnt want to match there.

In our nursing class, not NP but RN, we had a man who was a DR, who taught A&P, Patho, etc at the university who wanted to be an RN. He was the first to say that the nursing was demanding in a way that being a MD wasn't. Both were hard. Many RN's are able to be DR's if they want to. What you may not realize is that nursing is a rewarding profession and that we have to opportunity to spend time with the patient and family in ways that DR's do not. I spend many hours explaining to patients and their families what the DR thought that they had explained adequately. Families need nurses and NP's who can take more time with them. It sounds like you need to be a team player.

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In our nursing class, not NP but RN, we had a man who was a DR, who taught A&P, Patho, etc at the university who wanted to be an RN. He was the first to say that the nursing was demanding in a way that being a MD wasn't. Both were hard. Many RN's are able to be DR's if they want to. What you may not realize is that nursing is a rewarding profession and that we have to opportunity to spend time with the patient and family in ways that DR's do not. I spend many hours explaining to patients and their families what the DR thought that they had explained adequately. Families need nurses and NP's who can take more time with them. It sounds like you need to be a team player.

Uhhh...exactly what does this have to do with anything I said in the quote?

I asked about specific pathophysiology that NPs would teach to residents.

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Uhhh...exactly what does this have to do with anything I said in the quote?

I asked about specific pathophysiology that NPs would teach to residents.

:rolleyes: Just read the message. It is a response to all of your issues that you seem to be bringing. I don't have enough time to include all of the rantings.

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Verbal attacks removed.

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