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Doctors would NEVER tolerate their PA representing himself as the doctor, but many of them have no problem referring to their MA as "my nurse." It's an unacceptable double standard.

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If someone states they are a nurse on the phone, having a conversation as a nurse, leading the licenced nurse on the other end of the phone to believe that they are talking to another licenced nurse speaking about patients as professional licensed nurses would, does this not constitute "practicing nursing without a license?"

As I said before the internet is a wonderful tool Here's the first stuff that popped up, from the Texas BON:

Texas Board of Nursing - Discipline & Complaints - 216 Imposter Alerts

Now again, these are the most egregious cases of people actually fraudulently under emply without a license. These aren't MAs or phlebotomists as far as I can tell who are just answering the phone at an office as "The Nurse." But I really doubt a BON would be cool with that, you know? But wait, here's someone who lied about credentials on the phone from 2017:

Texas Board of Nursing - Discipline & Complaints - 216 Imposter Alerts

Here's a list of impostors from AZ

Imposters | Arizona State Board of Nursing

Kentucky:

Imposter Alert!

And the list goes on.

If you really want to know, contact your states BON and ask them about people identifying as nurses and what you should do. I'm sure they would want to hear about it.

I think these links are great examples.

Basically no discipline for the extremely common practice originally cited.

When somebody calls the office asking for a nurse, and Mindy the MA answers, it is business as usual.

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I appreciate your hesitancy to report this person given your personal history. However, consider that reporting her to the BON in your state is not about your personal history with her, but about PROTECTING YOUR LICENSE and PATIENTS. She is NOT a nurse. She is not legally authorized to do the things she is doing.

Also, you have to protect YOUR license. Your personal relationship with this woman is relevant. How do you know the doctor has even told her to "give" you these "orders" (which by the way are NOT LEGAL!) or that she is giving the doctor the information you ask her to? She may be trying to get you into trouble; which you will be if you continue to take and IMPLEMENT "orders" from some one you know is not licensed to provide them.

I would see if the BON has an anonymous reporting system and report her ASAP.

I would also REFUSE under any circumstances to accept any orders from her or give any messages to her regarding patient care. Your supervisor by the way is a joke! Instead of advocating for you and the patient involved, he gave you really bad advice. Your supervisor did not issue your RN license, the BON in your state did! If a patient has a negative outcome becuase of an "order" she gave and you implemented it, YOU are the one who will be held legally liable becuase you took the illegal order and implemented it knowing full well she is not an RN. Your supervisor can say he didn't know anything about this situation. You didn't say you documented this exchange anywhere.

The doctor by the way knows this is so totally illegal. He's doing it becuase it is cheaper to pay her as a phlebotomist than to hire a RN.

I had a similar experience when I was a staff RN. We had different doctors round who had nurses they employed to act as scribes. One day one of the scribe RNs said to me, "You need to give this patient Coumadin 8 mg today." " I said, "Okay" and checked the chart for the order for Coumadin 8mg. I didn't see one for that dose for the current day. I saw an order for 8 mg of Coumadin for the DAY BEFORE . So I said to her, "Did Dr. so and so write the order for Coumadin 8mg?" (This was pre-EPIC). She said, "I'm giving you the order." To which I responded, "No your'e not. You're and RN, I'm and RN. You can't GIVE me an order. I'll talk to the doctor when she rounds on this patient." She turned around and marched off in a huff. Later that day when the doctor rounded, she ordered Coumadin 4mg for the same patient. I told her about the previous discussion I had with her scribe. She said, "I never gave that order. Thank you for telling me." A few days later it was announced the scribe would no longer be working with the physician. I found out later same scribe had been giving "orders" on other patients without the doctors knowledge. I was the first person to say "No" to her and bring the issue to light.

I wish you the best in resolving this issue. Remember, a nurse without a license is NOT a nurse. Protect yourself and your patients.

T.

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I would see if the BON has an anonymous reporting system and report her ASAP.

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How's it going OP?

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This is annoying as well as illegal and a straight up lie.

A CNA referrs to herself as nurse as well, giving medical advise. Pts call back saying that they spoke to the nurse...no they haven't...I'm the only liscenced and you have not spoke to me. No she can not take a phone order or write a Rx under my Dr's name.... infuriates me.

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