LATERAL Violence. How Nurses treat Nurses! - page 4

hi! i have had a very interesting experience with the aacn's "healthy work environments" initiative. it really does seem that one just had to "name it to claim it!" i have posted an excerpt... Read More

  1. by   HM2VikingRN
  2. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from jlsRN
    Isn't the word 'violence' a little strong? No, I've never experienced violence at work. Yes, I've encountered gossip, cliques, and some strong personalities. I don't call that violence, that sounds like a melodramatic overstatement to me.
    I have witnessed behavior like this that ended in violence several times, at my place of work, and nothing happens to these people because we have strong unions. I have also witnessed bullying behavior. Sometimes, I do find myself wondering why I entered into this profession based on the situations I have seen.
  3. by   Levin
    I have witnessed behavior like this that ended in violence several times, at my place of work, and nothing happens to these people because we have strong unions.
    If that were so, then such people would presumably not exist in places that are non-unionised. But they do and often to a greater extent.

    Levin
  4. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from Levin
    If that were so, then such people would presumably not exist in places that are non-unionised. But they do and often to a greater extent.

    Levin
    I have always felt that it is a shame that a 'nurturing' profession has sometimes demeaned themselves in such a way
  5. by   margom
    I have experienced lateral violence and I am ashamed to say that at times I have done it myself to other people. For myself personally, I had to make some positive changes in me, and make a conscious committtment to act more kindly and professionally toward my co-workers whether I agree with them or not. I found that if I were in a room with other people gossiping, talking rudely about other staff I could get up and walk away or if I were invited into the conversation, I could participate in a more positive manner. I have found that it starts with one person and I don't have to participate. People catch on quickly and will move on to more positive conversation around. It starts with me and the changes that I was willing to make personally. That's my 2 cents worth. Peace
    Margo
  6. by   flashgoddess
    Quote from TheCommuter
    I have experienced virtually all of these behaviors at the workplace since I first entered nursing. I'd hate to mention this, but I'm a female who has been treated much more respectfully at male-dominated workplaces such as factories, storerooms, etc. It has been my personal experience that nursing is far from a nurturing profession with regards to coworker treatment, because I am constantly having to watch my back.
    like being beat up with a basebal bat , emotionally, mentally, and physically mostly by my co-workers with their gossiping, backbiting, etc. Is it because we are still a my, the staff relationships are what really drag us down. :angryfireNursing is not a nuturing profession. It feels female dominated profession and that's how women show aggression, i.e. gossip. Its really not the patients is it, its the co-workers who cause most of our stress to some degree!!! Yes, patients are stressful but, oh
    Last edit by TheCommuter on Nov 16, '09
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Is it because we are still a female dominated profession and that's how women show aggression, i.e. gossip.

    Perhaps the women you work with show aggression in such a manner, but please spare the rest of the female population from getting lumped into such a degrading stereotype.
  8. by   flashgoddess
    Quote from jlsRN
    Isn't the word 'violence' a little strong? No, I've never experienced violence at work. Yes, I've encountered gossip, cliques, and some strong personalities. I don't call that violence, that sounds like a melodramatic overstatement to me.
    Backstabbing, scapegoating, gossiping are forms of violence. They are psychological and emotional abuses to a person rather than physical abuse..
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    Perhaps the women you work with show aggression in such a manner, but please spare the rest of the female population from getting lumped into such a degrading stereotype.
    Thank you.

    Who would work is such a profession as described above??
  10. by   ShannonRN2010
    Back when I first became a nurse, I worked with another LPN that treated me like poo. She was RUDE and went out of her way to try to get me fired. She would snap at me and roll her eyes. She wasn't a very nice person...or nurse.
    I made up my mind, at that time, to never treat another nurse like that, esp a new grad or a student.
  11. by   CRNI-ICU20
    I agree that words and body language can be weapons just as easily as they can be tools of healing....it's up to the holder of those words and actions to decide how to use them and upon whom....

    Just because the words and actions don't leave a visible bruise, they bruise internally, and remain for years beyond the event sometimes.....sometimes the damage that is done alters the recipient's course in life...

    I disagree defending the bad behaviour of others....huffing and puffing about because they "don't want to teach another" or "don't want to take the time to show a new nurse the ropes".....welllll TOUGH TOENAILS!! If you don't want to teach those who come behind you, then get the heck out of the profession, you burned out old battleaxe!!

    I am sick and tired of hearing how nasty some can be in this profession to another....how in the world can you call yourself a "healer" or a "comforter" if you cannot heal or comfort your own?

    I have been on the receiving end of some pretty bad lateral violence...
    but, I am not a victim....I AM A SURVIVOR....and this is what I CHOOSE....I have now learned how to spot them, and confront them....and stick up for myself....
    Sometimes I incorporate humor....sometimes I flat out tell whomever is stickin' it to me to back up and watch their step....
    Lateral violence is something that HR's take seriously, because it is one step away from physical violence.....it is the reason why people come into their workplace and shoot whatever moves....

    I am glad someone is FINALLY addressing this....it's time for the bullies in the profession to pack their bags and find a different place to plop.
    crni
  12. by   sharona97
    mamma to bears, I agree and it also shows compassion and how you treat other people!
  13. by   sharona97
    If a nurse is really imposed to have a student assignment, then she should be assertive enough to say so. What she never was a student nurse?

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