Seton Hall Accel BSN--Still Viable??

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I recently heard that Seton Hall University (South Orange, NJ) is "closing" its Accelerated BSN Program to new admissions, eg: that the last Accel Class it admitted was this past September, 2007....and that no new students were being accepted to its Accel Program after that. Does anyone know if this is true?.....or can you confirm it?

And if so, do you know why they are not taking new students? I had heard it was due to its dismally low scores on NCLEX, and that the program at Seton Hall was very disorganized?

I understand they will still have their regular 4-year BSN program, but this change only affects its Accel BSN.

I don't know anything about the accelerated program but I'm in the 4 year bsn.

About the passing rate for the NCLEX, according to their website it says 97% of students pass. I'm sure they take into count both accelerated and 4 year students.

source:

http://www.shu.edu/about/fast_facts.cfm

I don't know where the heck they get that 97% pass rate. In 2006, their pass rate was 87.7% and in 2005 it was 77.1%. I don't think the 2007 data are publicly available yet. The stats don't differentiate between the ABSN and regular BSN programs.

2006: http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/nursing/minute/NCLEXResults_06.pdf - 11.1KB

2005: http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nursing/minute/nur221.htm

And if you read the 2005 minutes, you'll see that Seton Hall was actually below 75% in 2004.

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I tried editing my previous post, but for some weird reason, the 2005 link still links to that OCC page. (Is that a weird page or what? I don't think OCC meant for that page to get indexed by the search engines!)

Anyway, here's a link to the 2005 data from the NJ BON minutes:

http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nursing/minute/nur221.htm

And yikes! Here's a link that showed they had a 61.90% pass rate in 2004!

http://www.nj.gov/lps/ca/nursing/minute/nur215.htm

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Check the state nursing board February 2008 minutes:

http://www.state.nj.us/oag/ca/nursing/minute/nurmin_021908.htm

It shows Seton Hall BSN has lowest NCLEX-RN passing rate in the state, about 71.8%. That rate does not meet state requirement of 75%. If I remember correctly, 3 years of not meeting requirement will result in the loss of the program accrediation (graduates will not be eligible to take NCLEX exams).

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What I am being told is that SHU at the Georgian Court program has a 100% pass rate - in six months, meaning that not everyone passes it right off. The accelerated program also draws a different kind of student than the 4 yr. program so you expect different pass rates. It would be nice of SHU to provide a breakdown.

The low pass rate is why they are raising the required score on the final ATI so much.

Also was told that the GC program will continue to offer the accelerated BSN for at least one more year.

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Specializes in Emergency Medicine, Psychiatric Crisis.

I got my accpetance letter from Seton Hall today for thier Masters in Clinical Nurse leader program. I really wanted to do thier program but Unfortunetely I am going to have to reject them. Tuition is wayyyyyyyyyyyy to high. I do not want to leave school owing 100k ....I could be a doctor with that kind of money.

I am putting all my hope in UMDNJ. I really hope I get in.

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

When nursing school's pass rates are lower than state norms, Boards of nursing request remedial plan to bring school standards up.

Accelerated programs for 2nd degree learners are very fast paced programs that many students are not prepared to cram/work at intensive pace for amount papers/prep work READING required for successful nursing graduate. Cost of program is also an issue. If other Accel programs established in an area attracting qualified students, Nursing School might have decided to reposition its program at MN level as Clinical Nurse Leader with expectation these grads will be willing to assume leadership positions one year after initial licensure with experience under their belt as RN.

In my 30 yr career, have found most nurses willing to be staff and not assume leadership/mgmt responsibilities. My biggest concern is since they have never practised at the bedside, experienced differencing types of nursing units and roles, they are locking themselves into a role they may not like upon graduation, hence wasting money, time and resources.

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My biggest concern is since they have never practised at the bedside, experienced differencing types of nursing units and roles, they are locking themselves into a role they may not like upon graduation, hence wasting money, time and resources.

I think your concern is well-founded. Just being in the nursing program has shown me options I had previously not considered. When I graduate and go to work I expect to look at more options and to be better able to appraise them before going on with my education.

Suppose someone did get a CNL and later decided s/he wanted to specialize - become a psych or pediatric NP for instance. How many of the CNL MSN classes could be applied to the second masters granted by a different institution?

BSN credits don't transfer - do MSN credits?

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I just visited the nursing dept at Seton Hall today and was told that they are no longer offering the accelerated 13 month program at the south orange campus any more. They do have the 2 year second degree bachalor program. I'm not sure why they discontinued the 13 month program. I live in the seton hall area but the price of the classes are too rich for my blood. It costs over $700 per credit. that is crazy

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I got my accpetance letter from Seton Hall today for thier Masters in Clinical Nurse leader program. I really wanted to do thier program but Unfortunetely I am going to have to reject them. Tuition is wayyyyyyyyyyyy to high. I do not want to leave school owing 100k ....I could be a doctor with that kind of money.

I am putting all my hope in UMDNJ. I really hope I get in.

100K? :eek:

If someone graduates from their CNL program and wants to be an NP, does s/he still have to go for an MSN? This whole CNL thing confuses me!

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Specializes in Neonatal ICU (Cardiothoracic).
100K? :eek:

If someone graduates from their CNL program and wants to be an NP, does s/he still have to go for an MSN? This whole CNL thing confuses me!

They will need a master's certificate in whatever specialty they choose to become an NP. CNL does not equal NP.

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Here is a link to the NCLEX scores for all Jersey schools from the NJ Board of Nursing. Unfortunetly Seton Hall's scores was one of the lowest.:(

http://www.state.nj.us/oag/ca/nursing/minute/NCLEXResults_07.pdf

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Does anyone have any other feedback for the accelerated program that's already completed it? Thanks.

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