Due to recent changes regarding applications for International nurses to Australia and the combining of the nursing boards to one central nursing board in Australia AHPRA I have started a new thread for people to discuss the new process on working in Australia.
Currently New Zealand is not accepting new applicants from International trained nurses except those that meet the Trans Tasman Mutual Recognition Agreement {TTMR} this will be updated once the New Zealand nursing board reopen their books to International nurses.
Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency AHPRA
hello,i'm new here.i just received my referral letter from ahpra nsw the other day.i'm planning to take the bridging program at con nsw on september.can i still make it?
hi!
can u please share with me ur timeline in sending ur docs to nsw until u received ur letter?
i´m desperate for their reply and i´m just wondering how long will it take until they contactme and i finally receive my letter:uhoh3:
when u say u have applied to all these schools, u mean u sent all the docs required by all of them? or did u just contact them in order to know about their slots?
thank you!
i sent all docs nathalie.... they were basically just the same documents so i just had to scan them once...;)
Specializes in Medical and Emergency Room Nursing.
Has anyone tried using OCCUPATIONAL VISA to enter into a bridging program in Australia?
Because, my friends joined a seminar conducted by SCC Recruitment here in Davao, they said that they can assist nurses even without IELTS to enroll in an Australian institution for a bridging program.
How many times does this need to be covered. Dam these agencies in the pHILs. Would the PRC accept me if I had experienced tagalog taught to me by english speakers in secondary school and university. Would my claim be accepted and do you think that my communication skills in the Phillipines as a nurse would be okay, never having actually nursed only using language of the Phillipines, would my education in this language be good enough to be a nurse, without any testing of the level of my education in tagalog no it would not be....
if you go to this link http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/News/Past-Consultations.aspx and go to the consultation of english language, you will see that secondary schooling and tertiary must be taken in english speaking countries for the IELTS to be discounted. It is a draft but it is what is now accepted.
If you look at the requirements of all the bridging courses, they all say you must have recommendation for english as advised by AHPRA.
If you are educated in a country were english is not first country then you must have IELTS.. You need IELTS to get a visa fro sponsorship anyway......
We also do not have a national exam, so poor english speakers could on the face of it get registration if no english test.
This makes my angry that it is even considered that no english test is acceptable for nurses that come from countries were english is second language, because I have nursed with many, many ,many nurse from overseas they claim to be taught in english in secondary school and nursing school and when english tests were not compulsory for nurses from these countries and sad to say patient care was sub standard due to poor communication and was very dangerous at times.
I have emailed AHPRA the standard has not been lowered it is 7 IELTS for any international applicant where educated in country that is not english first country and NO agency can change this requirement nor bridging course school. :mad:
How many times does this need to be covered. Dam these agencies in the pHILs. Would the PRC accept me if I had experienced tagalog taught to me by english speakers in secondary school and university. Would my claim be accepted and do you think that my communication skills in the Phillipines as a nurse would be okay, never having actually nursed only using language of the Phillipines, would my education in this language be good enough to be a nurse, without any testing of the level of my education in tagalog no it would not be....
if you go to this link http://www.nursingmidwiferyboard.gov.au/News/Past-Consultations.aspx and go to the consultation of english language, you will see that secondary schooling and tertiary must be taken in english speaking countries for the IELTS to be discounted. It is a draft but it is what is now accepted.
If you look at the requirements of all the bridging courses, they all say you must have recommendation for english as advised by AHPRA.
If you are educated in a country were english is not first country then you must have IELTS.. You need IELTS to get a visa fro sponsorship anyway......
We also do not have a national exam, so poor english speakers could on the face of it get registration if no english test.
This makes my angry that it is even considered that no english test is acceptable for nurses that come from countries were english is second language, because I have nursed with many, many ,many nurse from overseas they claim to be taught in english in secondary school and nursing school and when english tests were not compulsory for nurses from these countries and sad to say patient care was sub standard due to poor communication and was very dangerous at times.
I have emailed AHPRA the standard has not been lowered it is 7 IELTS for any international applicant where educated in country that is not english first country and NO agency can change this requirement nor bridging course school. :mad:
I share ceridwyn's exasperation on this matter. I do not understand where these agents are coming from. First, AHPRA needs proof of English proficiency through the IELTS. Not only should the the result be valid at the time a nurse submits her application to AHPRA, it should also remain valid by the time one finishes the bridging program. Hence my situation right now where I am retaking my IELTS soon because my current IELTS results will expire this September.
Secondly, the nursing schools that offer BP require for you to submit a current valid IELTS result before being accepted in their program. They even conduct a phone interview to really make sure you could understand the interviewer and he/she could understand the way you speak. (At least that's what the interviewer of one of the BP schools told me).
Thirdly, the Australian Embassy requires you to submit a current valid IELTS result when you apply for Business Short Stay visa for the BP.
Fourthly, by the time you get your RN license from AHPRA after the BP, DIAC requires you to submit a current valid IELTS result when you apply for a working visa (that is if you get an employer to sponsor you).
Fifthly, IELTS is again required by DIAC come the time you apply for permanent residency in Australia.
But then again, people still want to believe what they want to believe. Granted you can get through some of the obstacles as mentioned by these "agents" through some scheme, it's really your personal choice, risk and money. So, Ceridwyn, you cannot convince some people otherwise even if you shout and turn blue in the face (hehehe, pardon the pun). All I can say to these people....."to each his own.....tough luck!!!" ;)
I know IELTS is very hard, tried the sample myself and found my english to be poor, according to the test.....but then I have grown up here and understand the many accents and understand many of the people with the different english accents and know the words they use in broken english for example what Italian, Greeks,words they use for pain and meals and needing the toilet and for feeling sick and needing family and know how they react to different situations, I have learnt through a lived experience.
We are not a nation of totally english speakers, if we were we could possibly work out what people with inexperienced english were trying to communicate.
Many patients have english as second language too, so 2 negatives do not make a positive so to speak.
Many patients speak 'broken english'' or have heavy accents as well so interpreters are often used by phone or on the ward. If you have a nurse that speaks hard to understand english, then the interpreter on the phone cannot understand, tand when obtaining doctors to give phone orders cannot understand the nurse with hard to understand english.
On saying this about nurses, many of the overseas doctors that have been recruited over the years, are extremely hard to undertand so the nurse needs often to b e interpreter for the patients. Maybe with the introduction of AHPRA hopefully this has now changed.
I am putting myself on the line here, but I think many 'friends or friends of sister or brothers'' do tell stories sometimes, just to have the superior upper hand and make things up.
When she gave me the go signal to pay (she emailed me), I immediately rang my aunt in NSW and she just called up CON to give her credit card details. That's it. She paid the whole fee ($10,000).
sweet_toothRN, how many days did you wait for you to receive the go signal from CON? I'm on the waiting list, and I really really want to be able to take BP this September. Does anyone have the same situation like mine?
there were BP schools which accepted students even w/o the AHPRA eligibility letter
BUT...
upon finishing the BP, the student can not register as an Aus RN unless he/she satisfies the AHPRA requirements.
IDP informed me about this when i went there last February.
Yes, Uni of sa was doing this....do not know if they still accept student this way. You can also join Bachleor of Nursing programs that many of the univerities accept below 7 but above 6 in IELTS. Same deal, if you want to register with AHPRA you need the 7 in IELTS. Need lots more money and time to do it this way.
Yes, Uni of sa was doing this....do not know if they still accept student this way. You can also join Bachleor of Nursing programs that many of the univerities accept below 7 but above 6 in IELTS. Same deal, if you want to register with AHPRA you need the 7 in IELTS. Need lots more money and time to do it this way.
yep. so the agency which the other poster mentioned awhile ago is not fooling people IF there are still universities which accept students this way.
BUT then again, why take that route when it is not that hard to get the eligibility letter from AHPRA.
May I ask how long it took before you got your eligibility letter?
It took me almost a year to get my eligibility letter. I sent first my application to AHPRA Victoria, and they kept on telling me that an assessment officer hasn't been assigned yet on my case. That's what they kept on telling me every time I called them up to follow up. Then last April, I requested for them to transfer my application to AHPRA NSW and they did. I called AHPRA NSW to follow up and got to talk to the Professional Officer assigned on my application. Just less than a week, I received an email from my Professional Officer informing me that the assessment to my application has been complete,and that I have to wait until the Board meeting last June 2 for my application to be considered. One week after the Board meeting, I called the officer again to follow up, then she told me that the referral letters were sent to my address last June 10. I waited one month for the letters to arrive.
sweet_toothRN, how many days did you wait for you to receive the go signal from CON? I'm on the waiting list, and I really really want to be able to take BP this September. Does anyone have the same situation like mine?
i am planning to finish my BP this year hopefully at CON.
did the lady told you their quota for another september batch to push through?
by the way, did you send them the same CV that you sent to AHPRA? how long was your letter of intent?
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NurseNathalie
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hi!
can u please share with me ur timeline in sending ur docs to nsw until u received ur letter?
i´m desperate for their reply and i´m just wondering how long will it take until they contactme and i finally receive my letter:uhoh3: