New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

Updated:   Published

Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

@ heavensent814: NSW, VIC, and QLD would accept inexperienced nurses.

As for the 2 years course in AUS, you can still apply for a BN course there even if you already have a BSN in the Philippines. The duration can be anywhere from 1-3 years. The duration will depend on the subjects that will be credited or if the University offers a graduate entry or a specific 1 year program for Overseas qualified nurses. As what I have stated before, the 1 year program is still an award program meaning you will have a BN degree from Australia (legal).

so i could contact australian universities and ask them if they offer this 1 yr program for foreign nurses? would this be good enough to be able to get a job and visa in australia after the program is completed? do u know of any universities that do this?

@ heavensent814: NSW, VIC, and QLD would accept inexperienced nurses.

As for the 2 years course in AUS, you can still apply for a BN course there even if you already have a BSN in the Philippines. The duration can be anywhere from 1-3 years. The duration will depend on the subjects that will be credited or if the University offers a graduate entry or a specific 1 year program for Overseas qualified nurses. As what I have stated before, the 1 year program is still an award program meaning you will have a BN degree from Australia (legal).

In UK though, students cannot apply for permanent resident after the 2 years or even if you study for a longer period of time. You still have to apply for another visa or a working permit which is actually not available at the moment. On the other hand, you can apply for permanent residency in Australia after your 2 years course (whatever degree or diploma) as long as the skilled job to be nominated is in the SOL list.

ohhh alright...what does SOL stand for btw?

so i could contact australian universities and ask them if they offer this 1 yr program for foreign nurses? would this be good enough to be able to get a job and visa in australia after the program is completed? do u know of any universities that do this?

Yes, I know several Universities who offer the 1 year program. But the question is, what visa do you want to have after the studies, a 457 visa (temporary long stay business visa) or a permanent visa? The 1 year program would just end up like a bridging program just because both the bridging and the 1 year program will go for a 457 visa after the registration. However, if you study for at least 2 years, you will be eligible for both permanent resident visa and skilled-graduate visa (18 months).

As for the job, as long as you're registered, you will be able to apply for a job. The only remaining requirement would be a valid visa that has work rights. Also, the degree you are going to apply for should be a pre-registration course - a recognised course by the state regulating authority. You can find out which courses of Universities are accredited or recognised by the specific state regulating authority.

Skilled Occupation List (SOL) - for Skilled Migrant/Resident Visas

Employer Nominated Skilled Occupation List (ENSOL) - for 457 Visa

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf

Yes, I know several Universities who offer the 1 year program. But the question is, what visa do you want to have after the studies, a 457 visa (temporary long stay business visa) or a permanent visa? The 1 year program would just end up like a bridging program just because both the bridging and the 1 year program will go for a 457 visa after the registration. However, if you study for at least 2 years, you will be eligible for both permanent resident visa and skilled-graduate visa (18 months).

As for the job, as long as you're registered, you will be able to apply for a job. The only remaining requirement would be a valid visa that has work rights. Also, the degree you are going to apply for should be a pre-registration course - a recognised course by the state regulating authority. You can find out which courses of Universities are accredited or recognised by the specific state regulating authority.

i would like to get a permanent resident visa.

i have a few clarifications

1. by pre registration course, you mean that the curiculum is recognised and accredited in that certain state right?

2. is it possible to eventually get a permanent visa after working on a temporary visa through the bridging program?

3. is the bridging program the assessment thing that aus states do for graduates of foreign nursing programs? where in u pay a few thousand dollars?

4. is it wise to go for the bridging program? or are most nurses rejected after this?

thank u so much for ur patience...

i would like to get a permanent resident visa.

i have a few clarifications

1. by pre registration course, you mean that the curiculum is recognised and accredited in that certain state right?

2. is it possible to eventually get a permanent visa after working on a temporary visa through the bridging program?

3. is the bridging program the assessment thing that aus states do for graduates of foreign nursing programs? where in u pay a few thousand dollars?

4. is it wise to go for the bridging program? or are most nurses rejected after this?

thank u so much for ur patience...

1. YES. :) Thus, the registration process for all the graduates of those recognised courses will be expedited because the state board would not need to reassess the course they took.

Also, note the expiration year for the recognition. Some state regulating authorities give a certain number of years for the recognised courses (e.g. 2005-2010). The University can re-apply for recognition usually on the last year.

2. The question is a bit confusing. If you meant, is it possible to apply for a permanent visa after a certain number of years experience under a temporary working visa (e.g. 457 visa) the answer is Yes. You can still apply for a Skilled (migrant) visa after 1-2 years (but most probably after 2 years).

Actually, on of the main requirements for a Skilled permanent visa is working experience. The Skilled visa is a point-based system. You have to meet the required number of points for the application to be granted.

However, the required experience will be waived should you apply after completing a 2 years course. You should apply within 6 months after you finish your course though. Now, if you can't pass the required points for the Skilled Independent (resident) visa, then you can always apply for a Graduate-Skilled (temporary) visa. The graduate visa has to be lodged within 6 months after the completion of your course. The graduate visa will allow you to stay in Australia for another 18 months to gain enough experience so you can now lodge for the Skilled Independent (resident) visa.

3. YES. Bridging programs/Competency Assessment Programs/Pre-registration NON-AWARD courses (6 months and below) for Overseas Qualified Nurses.

4. The answer to that question is very much subjective. It will depend on a lot of things. The most important of which is the financial part. Next would be your own preference - whichever you think and feel will be most comfortable for you.

I wouldn't say most nurses get rejected. However, the success will depend greatly on you and a bit of luck.

1. YES. :) Thus, the registration process for all the graduates of those recognised courses will be expedited because the state board would not need to reassess the course they took.

Also, note the expiration year for the recognition. Some state regulating authorities give a certain number of years for the recognised courses (e.g. 2005-2010). The University can re-apply for recognition usually on the last year.

2. The question is a bit confusing. If you meant, is it possible to apply for a permanent visa after a certain number of years experience under a temporary working visa (e.g. 457 visa) the answer is Yes. You can still apply for a Skilled (migrant) visa after 1-2 years (but most probably after 2 years).

Actually, on of the main requirements for a Skilled permanent visa is working experience. The Skilled visa is a point-based system. You have to meet the required number of points for the application to be granted.

However, the required experience will be waived should you apply after completing a 2 years course. You should apply within 6 months after you finish your course though. Now, if you can't pass the required points for the Skilled Independent (resident) visa, then you can always apply for a Graduate-Skilled (temporary) visa. The graduate visa has to be lodged within 6 months after the completion of your course. The graduate visa will allow you to stay in Australia for another 18 months to gain enough experience so you can now lodge for the Skilled Independent (resident) visa.

ohhh ok i understood everything you said. thank u so much...u were so helpful...are u an australian RN by the way?

NOPE. lol :chuckle Well, not yet. I have just been researching since July 2008 lol. And I really read a lot and have talked to a lot of Universities and the state regulating authorities. I have also consulted quite a number of migration agents (with and without fees). :chuckle

I'm just sharing whatever I know, but I wouldn't want you to rely only on whatever I'll say though. Because I would not know everything and the system is pretty complex. Also, requirements and rules can change any time. But I won't tell you anything I'm not sure of hehe. At least I would always make sure that what I will say is correct or will have some document to back it up. ;)

Anyway, heheh.. should you require more assistance, I'll try whatever I can. Oh! I was not yet finished with my other reply lol.. so you only saw the answers for 1 and 2... i accidentally clicked submit lol.. so i edited it and added the answers for 3 and 4.

Hope that helped. ;)

NOPE. lol :chuckle Well, not yet. I have just been researching since July 2008 lol. And I really read a lot and have talked to a lot of Universities and the state regulating authorities. I have also consulted quite a number of migration agents (with and without fees). :chuckle

I'm just sharing whatever I know, but I wouldn't want you to rely only on whatever I'll say though. Because I would not know everything and the system is pretty complex. Also, requirements and rules can change any time. But I won't tell you anything if I'm not sure about it hehe. At least I would always make sure that what I will say is correct or will have some document to back it up. ;)

Anyway, heheh.. should you require more assistance, I'll try whatever I can. Oh! I was not yet finished with my other reply lol.. so you only saw the answers for 1 and 2... i accidentally clicked submit lol.. so i edited it and added the answers for 3 and 4.

Hope that helped. ;)

ohhh alright! wow thats great, i always thought that all states in aus require registration so i never applied earlier...im so glad to come across u though...where are u from? would u be knowing which is the easiest among the 3 states nsw, qld or vic for foreign nurses, or if one is even easier than the other? and once registered thru the bridging program, is it easy for nurses with no experience to be sponsored for temporary visa?

ohhh alright! wow thats great, i always thought that all states in aus require registration so i never applied earlier...im so glad to come across u though...where are u from? would u be knowing if its any easier in one of the 3 states nsw, qld or vic for foreign nurses? and once registered thru the bridging program, is it easy for nurses with no experience to be sponsored for temporary visa?

Uhm, all states in Australia do require registration so you can be able to work as a Registered nurse. :) But you can be eligible for registration after you complete either the bridging program/assessment course OR after you complete a pre-registration Nursing degree.

I'm a Pinay, if that's what you are asking, not currently residing in Phil.

Hmm... easier would really depend on you. Sorry if my answers are always vague but that's how it really is. QLD is the only state that offers a Challenge test under the CAS program which is just an exam. Another pathway under CAS is the education modules which is similar to the bridging programs/ assessment programs of other states. The only differences are duration, fees, and the conducting institution.

As for the sponsor, if you have at least 1 year experience, it would not be too hard to find a sponsor. You can even find one over the net, you just have to apply to them or you can email them for further information. However, for those without any experience, I can't say for sure that it will be easy to find a sponsor. For one, most employers and even agencies require a certain number of years experience for overseas qualified nurses. That is where agencies come - because agencies promise you that you will have an employer after you get your registration.

Uhm, all states in Australia do require registration so you can be able to work as a Registered nurse. :) But you can be eligible for registration after you complete either the bridging program/assessment course OR after you complete a pre-registration Nursing degree.

I'm a Pinay, if that's what you are asking, not currently residing in Phil.

Hmm... easier would really depend on you. Sorry if my answers are always vague but that's how it really is. QLD is the only state that offers a Challenge test under the CAS program which is just an exam. Another pathway under CAS is the education modules which is similar to the bridging programs/ assessment programs of other states. The only differences are duration, fees, and the conducting institution.

As for the sponsor, if you have at least 1 year experience, it would not be too hard to find a sponsor. You can even find one over the net, you just have to apply to them or you can email them for further information. However, for those without any experience, I can't say for sure that it will be easy to find a sponsor. For one, most employers and even agencies require a certain number of years experience for overseas qualified nurses. That is where agencies come - because agencies promise you that you will have an employer after you get your registration.

oh sorry...i meant i thought all states in australia require foreign registration. if im not able to obtain experience here in the philippines since im not a citizen...i guess the 2 year study in australia would be better so wen i graduate i can get some sponsor and work experience?

What do you mean by foreign registration?

When you graduate from a 2 year course, you would not really need a sponsor. Because you can apply directly for a Skilled-Independent visa - no need for employer to nominate you, you apply independently. However, a job waiting for you can add some more points and would then be helpful in your application but not essential.

+ Join the Discussion