New grad Filipino nurse wanting to work in Australia/New Zealand

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Hi everyone, please help me.

I graduated last march 2007 here in the Philippines and I have my license here already.

Because of oversupply of nurses here, it's too difficult to find a job.

That's why I'm looking forward to working in Australia or New Zealand.

However, I'm confused. Esp about Australia.

I already have my bachelors degree here.

When I go there in Aus to work as RN, must I take a diploma in nursing first? can I work while studying?

After obtaining my diploma there, am I already a registered nurse?

Thank you!

yep..im on my 8th month of being a nurse volunteer. im also aiming for at least 1 year before i start the BP..ur applying for qnc too?..

Nope terranova, my papers were already assessed by nursing board of WA. The only thing I lack is the right score of my ielts result. I'm going retake ielts by aug. yet. I am hoping for the better result this time.:D

One can get the eligibility letter without IELTS??? I never thought it was possible... I've always thought that the eligibility will always be given when all requirements have been met.. That's good to know then. :)

Hi Aelith... I'm not sure about the others but for NBV, yes. I am guessing they might have given ownership to the accredited Universities in terms of the IELTS. Like Deakin has recently announced also that the bridge program requires 7.0 IELTS in all bands (one sitting) so that there requirements for enrollment are the eligibility letter and the IELTS score. they also mentioned that the 7.0 was based on the new NBV requirement.

I'm not sure if the rules vary per state. but based on info and email i received from the NBV and Deakin, that's how i understood it :)

Thanks for this info Chabeli, so I am also expecting for my Eligibility Letter until July 22, since they received my amended application last June 22.

How many months would be the validity of the Non-award Visa? I'm afraid to get a very short visa, bacause I midgt end up going home in the Philippines after the BP, and I was not able to find an Employer to sponsor me for a subclass 457...I have only 6 months of work experience here...

What do you think?

Do you have enough experience Chabeli?

Don't you think its a bit risky?:yawn:

Thanks...

the non-award student visa expires 1-month after your course is completed so if your course is 13 weeks then you are given 1 month extra stay. it just depends on how long the course would be. but you can still apply for another visa such as visitor visa if you need to stay a little bit longer. i do not have post-registration experience

Hi Aelith... I'm not sure about the others but for NBV, yes. I am guessing they might have given ownership to the accredited Universities in terms of the IELTS. Like Deakin has recently announced also that the bridge program requires 7.0 IELTS in all bands (one sitting) so that there requirements for enrollment are the eligibility letter and the IELTS score. they also mentioned that the 7.0 was based on the new NBV requirement.

I'm not sure if the rules vary per state. but based on info and email i received from the NBV and Deakin, that's how i understood it :)

I think this is certainly a new information for everyone else. Thanks for sharing. :)

If NBV did tell you that it is possible then it is ;) But what I'm wondering is, the eligibility letter is non-specific to any BP provider right? So, what if the person is not applying to Deakin, will he/she still be able to get the eligibility letter? Were you given an eligibility letter without IELTS too? I have a friend who applied at NBV but had failed the IELTS requirement and was not given eligibility yet - she had to retake it.

Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
I understand the feeling, however, I think what everyone should keep in mind is that those changes are for the benefit of Australia's citizens/needs and not for those hoping to migrate. I always expect the worse and hope for the best because I know that chances are, it will almost always be hard for people like me who are just trying to get into the Country.

Hello,

With the current crisis in the economy, changes of current policies are inclined to protect the Country's own people. I do hope though, that things will still be alright later on. I am really worried and that is why I am always looking for back up plans just in case things won't go as smooth for me.

Im cheering for the stability and improvement of not only the Philippine economy, but also of Australia's economy. So far as per their economic data, they are doing good as compared to some countries. As you would notice, the exchange rate now if P38 : Aus$1.00 as compared to P33 : Aus$1.00 early this year. This is one of the proof of Australia's economy strengthening.. The better their economy will be, the better for us prospective immigrants because they will still be very open in accepting us as worker-immigrants.. Otherwise, policies would be stricter like what is happening in other countries like USA and Canada.. That's why, I watch CNN to monitor how the Australia's economy is doing, as it affects my/our nursing career plans if you really think about it..

just my opinion..

Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
Hello dear :)

Yes, I will be going thru the MN route just because im too scared to fail the BP lol.. I feel more comfortable studying and feel more secure too since I'll be getting the degree from an Australian University plus the PR status after. Back up plan really is to get married and pursue another career for the meantime if I cannot be registered - since I have experience in a different field and nil in nursing.

I know someone whose plan is to study as well, but a different degree/course and then will be trying to complete the registration/BP while studying a different field. We all know that the nursing degree is much more expensive and the other 2-year courses that can make you eligible for PR status after are way cheaper.

Both those route are expensive and not for everyone. As for the other people I know, they are applying in Saudi and will be doing the BPs while working there (specifically QNC's education module). This is a good option too since they will be gaining experience while trying to complete the modules which are done online anyway. The one month practical can be done when they file for their vacation leave.

I think what most nurses are scared of is how to find a sponsor for the 457 visa - especially those with limited or no experience at all. I suggest that people should keep themselves up to date and research as much as they can about other possible options for them.

Aelith,

Assuming one already has a Aus. nursing license, and that he/she is currently in the Philippines, and that he/she has limited experience, is it really hard to find a 457 visa employer-sponsor via the internet?

From what Ive read from this thread, we have members which have limited experience but still were able to easily find an employer-sponsor because:

like nursmavi, she did her BP in a "school" which has a hospital, which hired her and other classmates despite limited experience.

like branyan, who did his 1-month clinical module in Queensland, which the hospital hired him also..

I have yet to read from a member here who was able to find 457 visa employer-sponsor via the internet despite of limited experience.

I hope we will find one member as what ive described.

:coollook:

Specializes in Med-Surg / ICU / Aged Care.
Thanks for this info Chabeli, so I am also expecting for my Eligibility Letter until July 22, since they received my amended application last June 22.

How many months would be the validity of the Non-award Visa? I'm afraid to get a very short visa, bacause I midgt end up going home in the Philippines after the BP, and I was not able to find an Employer to sponsor me for a subclass 457...I have only 6 months of work experience here...

What do you think?

Do you have enough experience Chabeli?

Don't you think its a bit risky?:yawn:

Thanks...

Hello Farah,

Just want to clarify what you've posted....

Did you mean to say : you are afraid that after BP you might not able to immediately find an employer who will sponsor you for 457 visa, because you have limited 6 months work experience..

Did i understand your concern correctly?

If so, then just wanna let you know that is my concern too (as ive mentioned in my previous post).. I'm concern that 6 months experience may not be enough to find an employer sponsor.. And, if employer will consider "volunteer" experience in assessing you,.. Moreover, will they also consider the present scheme of "hospital trainings" as an experience in assessing you to be their employee..

In this regard, i'm hoping that Australian hospitals would have already noticed the present "situation" in our country whereby to gain clinical experience, nurses will have to be a volunteer nurse or trainee nurse.. If they already knew about this, then it would be easy for us to present our resume with "volunteer" or "training" experience.. Thus, when they read our resume, they would understand already what are those experiences are and assess you whether to hire you or not..

Just expressing my feelings... (aka "tell me more.." "you seem concern..." )..

Aelith,

Assuming one already has a Aus. nursing license, and that he/she is currently in the Philippines, and that he/she has limited experience, is it really hard to find a 457 visa employer-sponsor via the internet?

From what Ive read from this thread, we have members which have limited experience but still were able to easily find an employer-sponsor because:

like nursmavi, she did her BP in a "school" which has a hospital, which hired her and other classmates despite limited experience.

like branyan, who did his 1-month clinical module in Queensland, which the hospital hired him also..

I have yet to read from a member here who was able to find 457 visa employer-sponsor via the internet despite of limited experience.

I hope we will find one member as what ive described.

:coollook:

Actually, they did not find the sponsor via Internet but, have found it in a personal way as you have mentioned. That is actually the chance that those without experience can hope for - to be hired by their training provider for the BPs. This though, is not the same for everyone else - meaning there are people who are not absorbed by the same provider. I wouldn't really want to give high hopes to anyone with limited experience because that is just giving them a false hope - because I cannot guarantee that everyone else will be absorbed by those facilities who will be assessing them however, it is possible.

I would, however, suggest that you still hunt for employers before and once you set foot in Australia. I would not promise it will be easy because the demand changes thru time. Remember, a lot of experienced nurses from around the world are moving to Australia too plus the Australian nurses coming back to the workforce because the economy is still not that good. Finding an employer to sponsor you will depend on the number & the quality(experience wise) of nurses applying - so I guess timing do play some part too.

Although it may seem in the news that Australia is not badly hit with this economic crisis, they still have some crisis in there. Jobs are still not as abundant as before, lay offs are still being done here and there. I don't want to generalize but this is what people I know in Australia are now facing - they are citizens there. These are in different sectors tho, one has a mom who is a nurse and according to her, australian nurses are coming back to the workforce and most people are trying to stay with their jobs because of the crisis. However, she did say that they still need nurses because most are getting old :D So don't be scared too much with my post lol.. I'm just trying to tell you the situation there. :)

I really hope everyone will be fine later on specially all the batches before the 2010 rego. And just to recap the link I've posted ages ago about the different nursing agencies across Australia, please refer to the link below:

http://www.rcsa.com.au/aanra

Hope that helps your jobhunting! Btw, prepare your CVs according to Australian standards ;) Luck plays an important role in our success too so BEST of LUCK to Everyone :D

Hi Cioman, yes, that exactly what I mean...I'm afraid not to find an employer to sponsor me for a working visa.:o

Hi Aelith, you said in yourv previous post that you know someone who will study a different course and then do a BP while there...

I have some clarifications re this, if you won't mind. Will he/she be qualified for a PR status after finishing a 2yr studies, even though he studied a different course? Will he nominate RN as his occupation? Because as what I understood in order to qualify for a PR(885) or Skilled-Graduate(485), the field of study must be closely related to your nominated occupation...what will be the field of his study?

My plan B is to study there and Im confused re what course, because nursing is really expensive...:bugeyes:

Thanks...

Hi Cioman, yes, that exactly what I mean...I'm afraid not to find an employer to sponsor me for a working visa.:o

Hi Aelith, you said in yourv previous post that you know someone who will study a different course and then do a BP while there...

I have some clarifications re this, if you won't mind. Will he/she be qualified for a PR status after finishing a 2yr studies, even though he studied a different course? Will he nominate RN as his occupation? Because as what I understood in order to qualify for a PR(885) or Skilled-Graduate(485), the field of study must be closely related to your nominated occupation...what will be the field of his study?

My plan B is to study there and Im confused re what course, because nursing is really expensive...:bugeyes:

Thanks...

If the 2 year course will make you eligible for a 50-60 point occupation in SOL and that you will have a positive skills assessment from the regulating body of that specific occupation, then YES, you will be able to apply for PR status after or a temporary graduate skilled visa.

You can only nominate RN if his course is directly related or closely related to the occupation, otherwise, you cannot.

I know a few people doing this. Some have applied for culinary, IT, business related, Welfare, etc.

Any degree to be studied in Australia is really gonna be expensive, however, diplomas or trade certificates are half the price. But, you also have to take note that not all diplomas and/or trade certificates will allow you to apply for PR status especially when it comes to getting that positive assessment from the regulating body.

I always suggest that you first check out SOL, then jot down all the 50-60 points occupations. Next, is to list down beside it, the corresponding regulating body. Then you should check the website of the regulating bodies which can be found at the last few pages of the SOL pdf file. Study the requirements and see if you can meet the requirements to have a positive skills assessment. Sort out which occupations you have a possibility of having a positive assessment. Last step is choosing which course will make you eligible for those occupations in the previous step and then choose the school you want.

Hi everyone. Im a registered nurse in the Phils for 2 years now but unfortunately I haven't been able to find a job. I have already passed the NCLEX exam but I only have 6 months hospital training. Im currently taking up my masters degree which I will finish (hopefully) by march 2010. I also plan to take the IELTS by the end of this year or early next year. I stumbled upon this thread because I plan to work abroad after finishing my masters degree. I find this thread very informative and working in Australia really interest me. Can you guys help me on what papers should I prepare, where i should send it and can I forward my application even without the IELTS exam? thank you very much

Hi everyone. Im a registered nurse in the Phils for 2 years now but unfortunately I haven't been able to find a job. I have already passed the NCLEX exam but I only have 6 months hospital training. Im currently taking up my masters degree which I will finish (hopefully) by march 2010. I also plan to take the IELTS by the end of this year or early next year. I stumbled upon this thread because I plan to work abroad after finishing my masters degree. I find this thread very informative and working in Australia really interest me. Can you guys help me on what papers should I prepare, where i should send it and can I forward my application even without the IELTS exam? thank you very much

Hello amygdala and welcome to the thread :)

If you have read the whole thread, you may have remembered reading something about national registration starting july 2010. If you are planning to apply now we can guide you easily, however, for 2010 we are still not so sure how things are going to be.

First, you will need to decide which state you want to work at and from there check the corresponding nursing board's website for their registration requirements. We can guide you after you have chosen which state you would like to apply at.

Next step will be to compile all necessary documents which includes but not limited to the following (certified Copies):

1. TOR

2. Verification of License from PRC

3. Good standing from PRC

4. Initial Registration certificate

5. IELTS

6. Diploma

7. Theoretical Breakdown of all subjects

8. RLE

9. Certificate of Employment

10. evidence of Change of Name

11. Passport copy/Birth Certificate

12. Bank draft in Australian Dollars for the application fee

You can actually apply without IELTS result yet. But please make sure that you will follow up your result as soon as you get it so you can have your eligibility letter for taking the Bridging Programs or CAS in Qld.

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